DOT physical

[drumpirate]

Been a few years but took a physical and put 10 mil lysinopril and carvedilol. not taking any more, but will I have to tell them when I take my next physical or is it detectable when you take your physical.

 

[Tim]

Been a few years but took a physical and put 10 mil lysinopril and carvedilol. not taking any more, but will I have to tell them when I take my next physical or is it detectable when you take your physical.

Physicals aint drug tests.

 

[Rigjockey]

Been a few years but took a physical and put 10 mil lysinopril and carvedilol. not taking any more, but will I have to tell them when I take my next physical or is it detectable when you take your physical.

No. They will only ask you about the current meds you are taking. If it is like you say and it has been a few years since you took them, I would answer no. You can tell the DR. If you want to, The Dr. will probably not even write in on the form.

Now. If it is a controlled substance and you are not telling the truth, The drug test will tell the truth!

 

[Tim]

No. They will only ask you about the current meds you are taking. If it is like you say and it has been a few years since you took them, I would answer no. You can tell the DR. If you want to, The Dr. will probably not even write in on the form.

Now. If it is a controlled substance and you are not telling the truth, The drug test will tell the truth!

RJ,
Here in the states they stopped doing drug tests when getting a physical. New Hire, random, post accident, and if they think your doing drugs is the only time you have to get it done.

 

[Rigjockey]

RJ,
Here in the states they stopped doing drug tests when getting a physical. New Hire, random, post accident, and if they think your doing drugs is the only time you have to get it done.

I know. I never said both test occurred at the same time. First the physical, Then the drug test for the company.

 

[Tim]

I know. I never said both test occurred at the same time. First the physical, Then the drug test for the company.

Ok I didnt know if you knew or not.

I'll go back to hunting for your stapler now.

 

[ezrollin]

nobody is going to try to go looking for Lisinopril in your system! drug tests aren't going to detect that either, they would look for the illegals, or narcotics kind of stuff

 

[GM1258]

One thing about your spot urine test is it can detect high protein
levels in your system. If so they will ask you all kinds of ?'s
(are you this?, are you that?, etc).
They can tell a lot from yer **** test...not just contraband.

 

[DrDaliah]

I passed my certification test yee-hah! Agree with above. No drug testing. We document current medications, and if you are a high blood pressure patient. If you are on medication but your blood pressure is under 140/90 you get a year certification. If you have normal BP and are not on medications, two year certification. If you are over 140/90 you will get a three month pass and need to get your blood pressure below 140/90 within that three months. If you don't you are disqualified till you do. If you do, then you are good for a year.

 

[GM1258]

I am a high BP patient myself.
I am on meds for same.
I hafta re-cert every year.
The current standard is 140/90 to drive.
There is legislation being introduced to reduce that to 120/90.
A reading which I would never pass no matter which pills I pop.
One more hoop to jump thru on top of all the rest they have today.
Hey, that suits me fine. It's an easy ticket to SSI.
I've already talked to a lawyer about it and I can get $3k a month.
I'll work as a greeter ast Wal-Mart for extra money...lmao

 

[Rigjockey]

I had the High blood pressure. They gave me meds, I never took them. I changed my eating habits. I was not there for a DOT physical, I was just there for something else. My BP was normal. My doctor was happy, I was over the sun proud.

I got me a good DR. He just became a DR. He is right on the ball on everything. He pisses me off because every time I go there he wants me to do a blood test, Because Male patients are the worst. We only come in when something is wrong.

Hey Doc, Should I waste you valuable time to come and see you when everything is fine? Doc, Hey whats wrong? Me, Nothing, I just came by to say hi and waste you educated time.

 

[Injun]

IMO, it's a waste of time and money to go see a doctor when there's nothing wrong.

 

[Rigjockey]

IMO, it's a waste of time and money to go see a doctor when there's nothing wrong.

Exactly! we have free health care and tons of people wasting doctors time on colds and flu. Doctors are a valuable resource and should not be wasted on such trivial things.

 

[DrDaliah]

uh.....I got ya, agreed on the simple colds, but I can't tell you how many patients I've diagnosed with terminal illness who ignored the little stuff thinking they were wasting our time. Never feel you are wasting our time. 90% of the thyroid or prostate cancers I've diagnosed were on patients coming in for something unrelated and I palpated their thyroid or ordered routing labs, checking their PSA.

You wanna know a secret.....we like the simple stuff. The simple stuff gives our minds a chance to recoup and look at your whole picture. Why doesn't anyone ever come in with a nice juicy paper cut?

 

[Blood]

I passed my certification test yee-hah! Agree with above. No drug testing. We document current medications, and if you are a high blood pressure patient. If you are on medication but your blood pressure is under 140/90 you get a year certification. If you have normal BP and are not on medications, two year certification. If you are over 140/90 you will get a three month pass and need to get your blood pressure below 140/90 within that three months. If you don't you are disqualified till you do. If you do, then you are good for a year.

So what are the 'guidelines' I've been hearing about?

There was a sleep specialist on Steve's show several months ago talking about sleep apnea for the most part but he was saying that the certification for doing DOT physicals included a lot of guidelines that would throw most of the people performing physicals into CYA mode.

Junior went for a physical this week and couldn't get a recert!!

The nurse who did the physical told him that his lungs didn't sound quite clear and that when she did the hernia check his cough sounded 'wet' (too many jokes in there to get sidetracked on ).

He is about 6' and around 200 pounds. 34 years old.
He works without straining and appears to be in good physical condition.

She wouldn't even give him a 90 day card to seek treatment.
Said he might have bronchitis...
or asthma...
or COPD...
or cancer...


When he questioned the scope of potential maladies and questioned her refusal to give him any leeway at all she told him she wasn't there to diagnose or treat any condition(s). Only to give physicals (or in this case, refuse to give physicals).

She told him he would have to get cleared or treated by an MD and then return with substantiation to get certified.

If I understand correctly he has to be cleared or treated by an MD,
but under the new rule A MEDICAL DOCTOR does not have the ability to write him a medical certification...
because that would be 'shopping' for a physical.


So if your chiropractor says you have a hitch in your gitalong you have to see an MD who says that your gitalong is fine but can't override the chiropractor...
then you have to go back and show the chiropractor that an MD says your gitalong isn't an issue for driving truck...
then the chiropractor has to give you a certification because the MD who can't give you a certification said so...
Is that the gist of this new rule??


If that is accurate then I hope every one of you goofy prinks who thought that getting another alphabet organization up in our binuzz to this level of incompetence wins a trip to the Caribbean...
and immediately upon arrival gets a string of fire coral from the nuts back, ALL the way up your asscrack!!!
Then has to see a chiropractor for treatment.



dumb bastards!!!

 

[Blood]

Yep...
Just FYI Junior had to go see a lung specialist today...
and get an X-ray....
and pay good money for NO DAMN REASON!!

The DOCTOR told him he was perfectly fine and couldn't imagine why he wasn't given a two year medical certificate.

But the doctor couldn't write him a physical...
because that would be physical shopping!!

Even though the nurse will now HAVE to write him a physical...
because the DOCTOR said there is nothing wrong with him.


And there are goofy sonsofbitches out there who think that the goofy friggin' gov't ought to be entrusted with the public's best interest!!

 

[Blood]

The saga continues...

He called the clinic yesterday to say that he had paperwork from a lung doctor and that he needed to pop in to pick up his paperwork.

No dice!!

The nurse who examined him has to re examine him...
and she's off until sometime next week.

UN FREAKING BELIEVABLE!!

 

[Tazz]

No one else at the same clinic can do it????

 

[Blood]

Nope.
He must be re-examined by the original examiner.
And it doesn't mean squat that an actual doctor with several years of training and a couple of decades experience says there is nothing wrong with him.

I guess if the examiner leaves for a month you're just screwed.

The best advice I can think of is to get a new physical about 60 days before it expires. At least for the next couple of years until this B/S shakes out.

 

[DrDaliah]

Nope.
He must be re-examined by the original examiner.
And it doesn't mean squat that an actual doctor with several years of training and a couple of decades experience says there is nothing wrong with him.

I guess if the examiner leaves for a month you're just screwed.

The best advice I can think of is to get a new physical about 60 days before it expires. At least for the next couple of years until this B/S shakes out.

True Dat. The guidelines are too long to post, but they are pretty straightforward on the certification periods we can give. a cough should not have disqualified him. That is screwy!