My husband was stopped for Level 3 inspection today - all went well, but the officer told him he really needs to consider getting a newer tablet for his ELD. Apparently it took forever for the info to download that he needed, though he was able to see it all eventually. He was really good about it, but told my husband that some officers will give you a ticket for not having an up to date tablet that syncs to their computers easily - a $250 citation. So, we are looking for a new tablet - and looking for some recommendations. Don't want to spend the money on an Ipad, plus it would be an all new learning curve we're really not into doing. Would appreciate your recommendations. Thanks!
No, the connection was good where they were at. He could read all the info he needed, just said that some of the officers will fine you if they can't sync it so that they can see it on their computers/tablets. He had to use my husband's tablet to read it. We haven't had any issues in the past.
If something like that ever results in a fine, I would definitely fight it. Can't see anywhere that the officer has a leg to stand on there. Could have been a failure on his end.
That's good to know. The tablet is only used for the ELD and even though it wasn't an expensive tablet, it works fine for us.
Electric Chicken
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As long as it's compliant, an officer can't write you a ticket for his own impatience.
Our tablets have a DOT officer mode. So they kind of HAVE to use it to review. Whether they can sync to it isn't my problem.
Our tablets have a DOT officer mode. So they kind of HAVE to use it to review. Whether they can sync to it isn't my problem.
mndriver
curmudgeon extraordinare
Actually, it is your responsibility to ensure it can synch with them.
Electric Chicken
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Never heard of such a thing. It'd be on Schneider if it doesn't work as expected.
r3gulator3
IMA KEEP IT REDNECK
It’s your responsibility to be able to email or fax your logs to them and they can look at your summary on the tablet. What is this syncing you all speak of?
ironpony
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quillcom
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I think it just means the info on your tablet is automatically transferred to the officers computer when synched.
quillcom
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What kind do you have. We use a Samsung Galaxy A . Who is your service provider; ours is Verizon.
We have a Samsung Galaxy Tab E Lite. I know it's an older version, but it's worked well for us until this. And we also use Verizon.
ironpony
Professional Pot-Stirrer
There's no absolute requirement in the regs for you to have computer equipment that can "sync" to anything DOT has - it's optional, and a convenience for the flatfeet. Whether they like it or not, at most, all you really need to be able to do is email ELD data from the previous 8-day period, nothing more. In fact, if you can't even manage that, you are compliant by providing them with either a printout, or by letting them physically look at the ELD display.
This is a page from a FMCSA FAQ sheet concerning ELD data transfer (link below...)
ELD Data Transfer
1. What are the options for electronic logging devices (ELDs) to electronically transfer data?
According to the ELD rule technical specifications, an ELD must support one of two options for electronic data transfer:
1. The first option is a “telematics” transfer type ELD. At a minimum, it must electronically transfer data to an authorized safety official on demand via wireless Web services and email.
2. The second option is a “local” transfer type ELD. At a minimum, it must electronically transfer data to an authorized safety official on demand via USB2.0 and Bluetooth®.To ensure that law enforcement is always able to receive the hours of service (HOS) data during a roadside inspection, a driver must be able to provide either the display or a printout when an authorized safety official requests a physical display of the information.
2. How will safety officials receive data electronically from the two different types of ELDs with options for different methods of electronic data transfer (“telematics” and “local”)?
Authorized safety officials who conduct roadside enforcement activities (i.e., traffic enforcement and inspections) or compliance safety investigations will have the option of choosing a minimum of one electronic data transfer method (wireless Web services or email) and one “local” electronic data transfer method (USB2.0 or Bluetooth) for the electronic transfer of ELD data, depending on the type of ELD.
3. What is the process for transferring data via USB2.0?
If a driver is using a “local” ELD with USB 2.0 capabilities, an authorized safety official will provide a secure USB device to allow the driver to electronically transfer data from the ELD to the official. The driver will return the USB device to the safety official, who will transfer the data to a computing device.
4. What is the process for transferring data via email?
If the driver is using a “telematics” ELD with email capabilities, the authorized safety official will request that the electronic data transfer file be sent as an attachment to an e-mail from the driver to an email address that the safety official provides to the 7driver.
5. What is the process for transferring data via Bluetooth?
If the driver is using a “local” ELD with Bluetooth capabilities, the authorized safety official will activate Bluetooth on his or her computing device and the driver will initiate the Bluetooth electronic transfer of the data from the driver’s ELD to the safety official’s computing device. The official will provide a Bluetooth pairing code for the driver to enter into the ELD for the data file transfer.
6. What is the process for transferring data via web services?
If the driver is using a “telematics” ELD with wireless Web services capabilities, the authorized safety official will give the driver a routing code to assist the official in locating the data once transmitted, and the driver will initiate a web transfer to an FMCSA server to be retrieved by the safety official’s software.
7. Would an electronic logging device (ELD) be non-compliant with the ELD rule if the data cannot be sent electronically to an authorized safety official at roadside?
No. If the electronic means for transferring data is unavailable or fails, the driver can still be compliant by showing either a printout or the actual ELD display of their RODS.
ELD FAQs
This is a page from a FMCSA FAQ sheet concerning ELD data transfer (link below...)
ELD Data Transfer
1. What are the options for electronic logging devices (ELDs) to electronically transfer data?
According to the ELD rule technical specifications, an ELD must support one of two options for electronic data transfer:
1. The first option is a “telematics” transfer type ELD. At a minimum, it must electronically transfer data to an authorized safety official on demand via wireless Web services and email.
2. The second option is a “local” transfer type ELD. At a minimum, it must electronically transfer data to an authorized safety official on demand via USB2.0 and Bluetooth®.To ensure that law enforcement is always able to receive the hours of service (HOS) data during a roadside inspection, a driver must be able to provide either the display or a printout when an authorized safety official requests a physical display of the information.
2. How will safety officials receive data electronically from the two different types of ELDs with options for different methods of electronic data transfer (“telematics” and “local”)?
Authorized safety officials who conduct roadside enforcement activities (i.e., traffic enforcement and inspections) or compliance safety investigations will have the option of choosing a minimum of one electronic data transfer method (wireless Web services or email) and one “local” electronic data transfer method (USB2.0 or Bluetooth) for the electronic transfer of ELD data, depending on the type of ELD.
3. What is the process for transferring data via USB2.0?
If a driver is using a “local” ELD with USB 2.0 capabilities, an authorized safety official will provide a secure USB device to allow the driver to electronically transfer data from the ELD to the official. The driver will return the USB device to the safety official, who will transfer the data to a computing device.
4. What is the process for transferring data via email?
If the driver is using a “telematics” ELD with email capabilities, the authorized safety official will request that the electronic data transfer file be sent as an attachment to an e-mail from the driver to an email address that the safety official provides to the 7driver.
5. What is the process for transferring data via Bluetooth?
If the driver is using a “local” ELD with Bluetooth capabilities, the authorized safety official will activate Bluetooth on his or her computing device and the driver will initiate the Bluetooth electronic transfer of the data from the driver’s ELD to the safety official’s computing device. The official will provide a Bluetooth pairing code for the driver to enter into the ELD for the data file transfer.
6. What is the process for transferring data via web services?
If the driver is using a “telematics” ELD with wireless Web services capabilities, the authorized safety official will give the driver a routing code to assist the official in locating the data once transmitted, and the driver will initiate a web transfer to an FMCSA server to be retrieved by the safety official’s software.
7. Would an electronic logging device (ELD) be non-compliant with the ELD rule if the data cannot be sent electronically to an authorized safety official at roadside?
No. If the electronic means for transferring data is unavailable or fails, the driver can still be compliant by showing either a printout or the actual ELD display of their RODS.
ELD FAQs
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Electric Chicken
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Funny how everybody wants to argue with me when I say the same s***.
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