Winter Driving


Texas DOT sucks! When it comes to ice they are still in the ice age. Our fwys are still backed up for miles at least I know I 20 is. For some reason they dont do anything about the bridges thats what is causing all the problems.
I'm north of Oklahoma City right now, on my way to Brownwood. Is it still really that bad there? I was gonna skip the OK toll roads and just take the extra mileage down into DFW. Might rethink that now.
 
Skid pads are great.... but.... the point of knowing how to do "winter driving" is to avoid being in that situation. There's no easy way to learn that. No computer program, no "simulator", no "shortcut".
Yep. No computer program is going to tell you what to do when you get stuck behind a four wheeler at a red light on a hill, and when you go to take off the only direction you are going is backwards and there is traffic behind you.
 
Texas doesnt let you chain up, their afraid you might tear up their crappie roads like you can make them any crappier

First time I ever chained was in Texas, sometime around 2000. They had an ice storm that shut all the interstates down north of San Antonio and east of Midland. Most of Oklahoma and Louisiana, too. I was in Fort Worth with a final drop in Austin, and if I didn't get it made I was sitting for the weekend. So I got out my cables and went to work, and ran two lane down overnight. It was so slick you could barely stay on your feet, but it was no big deal with iron.


I'm north of Oklahoma City right now, on my way to Brownwood. Is it still really that bad there? I was gonna skip the OK toll roads and just take the extra mileage down into DFW. Might rethink that now.

From the GF told me of her trip to work today, the dark pavement isn't too bad, but all the lighter color stuff is still potholed ice. That's from the racetrack to DFW on 114.
 
Yep. No computer program is going to tell you what to do when you get stuck behind a four wheeler at a red light on a hill, and when you go to take off the only direction you are going is backwards and there is traffic behind you.
Sometimes in snow, since I know the spots where other vehicles have waited with warm tires for a red light will be icy, and since I anticipate a stopping point well behind the point I really intend to stop (to allow for sliding) I just get it down into the granny gear & idle to keep the truck in motion til the light turns green. Then I stay in the granny gear at idle until the vehicles stopped ahead have started moving before I start re-accelerating. That way I don't have to come to a complete stop.
 
Sometimes in snow, since I know the spots where other vehicles have waited with warm tires for a red light will be icy, and since I anticipate a stopping point well behind the point I really intend to stop (to allow for sliding) I just get it down into the granny gear & idle to keep the truck in motion til the light turns green. Then I stay in the granny gear at idle until the vehicles stopped ahead have started moving before I start re-accelerating. That way I don't have to come to a complete stop.

Exactly the kind of thing that you only learn from experience. Sadly, it's also the kind of info you used to pick up in "the old days" when a bunch of "old guys" gathered at a "real truckstop". "Social Media" is a very poor substitute for these types of gatherings.
 
Last winter, actually I think it was winter of 11/12 I was coming home from my company's terminal in northwest Iowa in my '89 Ford Ranger.

I was driving on solid ice for a long time & although I knew it was slick, I just thought it was snow I was driving on until I tried to get off at an exit to try & thaw out my washer fluid tank, which was frozen solid. Brakes didn't do a damn thing, .. at all. All it did was give me a little bit of feedback in the pedal as they locked up, and my speedometer shot down to zero. There was no way in hell I'd be able to make that exit so I went to the next one that had a gas station & simply coasted to a stop at the top of the ramp. I ended up having to go all the way to Iowa 80 til I found a place that wasn't sold out on air brake de-icer. Yes I put air brake de-icer in my washer fluid tank in my ranger out of desperation. I couldn't go more than a mile or two without trucks throwing crap up on my windshield. I also sip-tied some cardboard to the grille trying to see if I could retain some engine heat to speed up the thaw, LOL.

I made it all the way home, even driving the last 30 miles in foot-deep snow that hadn't been plowed, .. with a 2WD Ranger & not much weight in the back. Next morning the boss called to see if I made it home & he said that drivers had been telling him that travel was impossible & even 4WDs were going in the ditches & stuff. I told him I was at home, but he wasn't surprised. He just called me a crazy-***.

BTW that was a 524 mile trip, and about the last 250 miles of it was on ice except for the last 30 which was deep snow.

Nice, I tried to drive through 1 - 2' deep snow in my car to get up my driveway yesterday. First I just tried to get up it normally and got stuck so I backed up and tried to fly up it with crazy speed only to spin out. The only way I was going to get up it is if I slowly plowed it out of the way going forward and backwards a million times. So I just went for a long walk in the snow instead.
 
Texas DOT sucks! When it comes to ice they are still in the ice age. Our fwys are still backed up for miles at least I know I 20 is. For some reason they dont do anything about the bridges thats what is causing all the problems.
so now are you wondering why you got into trucking:confused-96:
 
I always like to test the truck/traction and ground. Giving it a bit of fuel to see at what point it breaks traction

On one occasion I was just merrily rolling along in Michigan I75 and I hit black ice. Not sure if I am good or lucky. ( I hope I am lucky) Empty wagon and the whole truck went side ways to the left, I recovered and it went side ways to the right. Everything happened so slow felt like 10 minutes. I could only think to push in the clutch and steer the wheel.
 
Exactly the kind of thing that you only learn from experience. Sadly, it's also the kind of info you used to pick up in "the old days" when a bunch of "old guys" gathered at a "real truckstop". "Social Media" is a very poor substitute for these types of gatherings.
Now all the old timers are retiring & the truck stop counter guys have less experience than I do. Scary.
Nice, I tried to drive through 1 - 2' deep snow in my car to get up my driveway yesterday. First I just tried to get up it normally and got stuck so I backed up and tried to fly up it with crazy speed only to spin out. The only way I was going to get up it is if I slowly plowed it out of the way going forward and backwards a million times. So I just went for a long walk in the snow instead.
:coocoo:

Get a snowblower.
 
Youtube does have everything. This video is a multi car pile up In Germantown Wisconsin. It looks like everything is starting to calm down and then at about the 3:09 mark the pile up starts again.

To the credit of Americans, At least they know enough to pull off to the shoulder after a wreck. Up here there is a misconceived notion that accident scene must remain in tact. This is not true and also dangerous,
 
Now all the old timers are retiring & the truck stop counter guys have less experience than I do. Scary.
:coocoo:

Get a snowblower.
I'm not actually living there. I only went up there to check on it and make sure no water pipes had broken. I bought it when the housing market bubble burst, and I planned to live there, but I lost my job in the area in the meantime. I'm thinking I might rent it out when I become an OTR trucker.
 
For the young among you I present an "old time" Trucker's Story.......

Waaaaay back when, I wuz hauling bulk milk from farms inna tank truck. This here happened in one of the wust winters in history. Wooly mammoths woulda been wearing longjohns it was so cold an icy and snowy.

Anyways I wuz running a load back frum a farm that was waaaaay out in the bush. I mean bears didn't venture back this far. But all inna day's work for a trucker y'know? Now on about the halfway point they was two very big hills we called the Twin Sisters Of Death they was so steep. As I was comin out from the farm it took to snowin an all, durn near total whiteout. I come to the top of the First Sister an stopped to breathe. Knowin what laid ahead I crammed that ol Jimmy into gear and put both feet onna throttle. Had to be wiiiide open to ever hope to make it over the other side. Hit the bottom of that valley doin' about a hunnert an five or so..... 10 feet of flame out the stacks.... an up the next grade throwin gears wit both hands. Started spinnin about 2/3 from the top., but wuz still movin.

Just as the front bumper touched the top, the ol truck started goin backards. So I just cranked the back end into the snowbank to stop her. Howsomever, that didn't work, she just jack knifed around till I was pointin downhill agin. So I piled the coal on hopin I'd get back up the first slope. But, sure enough I got the same result. Them Sisters wuz true females that night; lead a feller on but slap him to reality just as he thought he's home free.

Anyroads, I spent most of that night goin back and forth, back and forth. By the end of it I was getting pretty damn good at it but was getting bored y'know? Finally, just come daylight, a thought came to me. Just as that ol truck started to stop agin, I yanked the door open, jumped down onto the ground an gave her a push. Dang me if it didn't work..... ol truck chugged her way over onto level ground. Of course by then she was movin so slow I coulda made a far an cooked breakfast an still got back in the cab. Course, fust off I hadda stop an think a minute to figure out whichaway I was pointin by this time.

Long story short, I was soon homeward bound. Boss was some upset cause I was a tad late and wantin to know how's come I burnt up a half tank of fuel on such a short trip. Don't think he really believed me much.

Top it all off, when they took that trailer down to the dairy it wouldn't pump off. Seems that with all that back and forth that milk had churned itself inta cheese. Now whilst they was carvin it outa the trailer some SOB ate some. Danged if they didn't find her to be pretty dam good cheese at that. Don't you know they packaged that up an sold it? Opened up a whole new product line for em. But do you think I got so much as a "Thankyew" outa the deal???? Hayell NO.

Life of a trucker sure is hard by times.

The End..... of this chapter. ;)
 

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