Duck
Sarcastic remark goes here
There's that old Joseph Goebbels quote again..
We've exhausted the ELD subject...right?
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Rigjockey
In Gord we trust!
Drivers need to take "naps" yeah sometimes they do, Sometimes they are just dog tired and maybe they did not sleep well the night before. It happens and it should not affect the 14.
Maybe clause that a driver may extend their day once or twice per week by 2 hour showing 2 in the bunk.
Dispatchers will use that to force 4 more hours out of a driver.
It is a paradox.
Maybe clause that a driver may extend their day once or twice per week by 2 hour showing 2 in the bunk.
Dispatchers will use that to force 4 more hours out of a driver.
It is a paradox.
Getfit Tommy
Highway Hero
I think the ideal situation would be paid for everything you do....as soon as you login to when you logout ...including law-mandated breaks ; if u r a local driver.
Just make payroll off the ELD (if you're a local driver)
A lot of companies here do that. I've never been a local driver, but at the rate we're going I'm def considering it ~
Just make payroll off the ELD (if you're a local driver)
A lot of companies here do that. I've never been a local driver, but at the rate we're going I'm def considering it ~
Getfit Tommy
Highway Hero
Most definitely a paradox. A lot of DOT inspectors are ex-truckers and they are not on board with that stupid law
Their take is this: "if your log looks good, get rollin."...if you are lying, they don't need to dig around to make sure. Its obvious. The California DOT really don't even want to use the Oregon 'lie detector" software... mostly because they don't need it to figure out if you're running hot.
But then Cali doesn't depend on big rig violation revenue the way Oregon does.
We shall see....
Rigjockey
In Gord we trust!
Getfit Tommy
Highway Hero
My deliveries will still be made
...regardless
But yeah, the irony is thick.
I'm taking a larger part in playing devils advocate than I am in sharing my methodology
I see the storm coming'
Too bad someone can't minimize its inevitable devastation of our profession
Automation and robots: rock out with your....
...regardless
But yeah, the irony is thick.
I'm taking a larger part in playing devils advocate than I am in sharing my methodology
I see the storm coming'
Too bad someone can't minimize its inevitable devastation of our profession
Automation and robots: rock out with your....
Duck
Sarcastic remark goes here
.... sledge hammers.
SaddleTramp
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I Would like to invite all of you to sign a petition to repeal the ELD Mandate! on my Facebook page, just uploaded-Vance Saddle Tramp Vergon
I will keep you updated as to it's progress. Thank you and let's do our part to keep it voluntary.
I will keep you updated as to it's progress. Thank you and let's do our part to keep it voluntary.
Drifter McDuck
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As an American I am ashamed of some of the responses I have seen here. No, you don't go find another line of work because you don't like government overreach in the sector that you like! America has evolved into the biggest police state and surveillance state the world has ever known. Their surveillance and control capabilities far exceed anything of Nazi Germany or Stalin's Soviet Union. Allowing the government to put these control mechanisms in place will not take us anywhere positive I can promise you, and it will be your children and grandchildren pay the price for that mistake. The founding fathers would be shooting by now, and b****slapping The rest of us, asking us why we allowed "our" government (The government that works for us, not the other way around) to get this far out of control. And before any of you starting with tinfoil comments, open a few history books. History repeats itself because people ignore the past.
Drifter McDuck
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Also, The interstate commerce clause was designed to keep trade between the states regular. In other words, it gave Congress authority to pass laws facilitating trade. It allowed the government to tell the states they could not each have their own form of currency, and it gives Congress the power to tell Michigan that it cannot ban products from Ohio. The interstate commerce clause was never designed as, or meant to be a tool for passing any and every regulation under the sun, simply because interstate trade is involved. Furthermore, any regulation passed under the interstate commerce clause STILL has to comply with all other constitutional restrictions on power, including the bill of rights. And I would say that giving the government the power to randomly stop and detain, without cause, to pursue an investigation of the vehicles driver, demanding that he show documentation of who he is doing business with, who he works for, everywhere he has been, everywhere he is going, what town he slept in last night, and what time he went to bed, is woefully in violation of both fourth and fifth amendment protections.
Drifter McDuck
Well-Known Member
Signed
Getfit Tommy
Highway Hero
The ELD mandate, at the very least, needs to have some very important and safety-based revisions made.
The law itself will not be repealed, but maybe, just maybe it will be open for safety-based revisions.
Of course, I wouldn't bet on it ~
The law itself will not be repealed, but maybe, just maybe it will be open for safety-based revisions.
Of course, I wouldn't bet on it ~
Drifter McDuck
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If the government is actually interested in safety, I think they would be better suited to offer a great tax incentive to motor carriers with high driver retention rates. Give the mega fleets incentive to keep their experienced drivers, instead of low-balling their wages to keep their driver-mill cranking out new drivers. Of course, none of the politicians would get kickbacks from Qualcomm in that scenario....
Getfit Tommy
Highway Hero
I dare say it will first have to get worse before it gets better...
...whatever changes take place will be weighted by revenue, thats a given
When freight-flow, availability and danger actually enter the equation maybe....just maybe some folks might stop and ponder their overwhelming ignorance on the matter of regulating the Trucking Industry...
I feel I'm beating a dead horse here. I started this thread long ago and the only reason it is still going is because the topic has become dynamic and subjective now....
That, and the hopes people put on our new fierce "leader"
...whatever changes take place will be weighted by revenue, thats a given
When freight-flow, availability and danger actually enter the equation maybe....just maybe some folks might stop and ponder their overwhelming ignorance on the matter of regulating the Trucking Industry...
I feel I'm beating a dead horse here. I started this thread long ago and the only reason it is still going is because the topic has become dynamic and subjective now....
That, and the hopes people put on our new fierce "leader"
quillcom
Well-Known Member
Here here! But we aint seen nothing yet. Mark my word.
ironpony
Professional Pot-Stirrer
That's what we're worried about.
SaddleTramp
Well-Known Member
I went to the OOIDA general forum and requested they read and sign. The hate and discontent was amazing, tragic, and pathetic. I tried to copy and paste to show you all but it was too many characters long.
quillcom
Well-Known Member
Not surprising. I think the unions in general are hotbeds of that sort of stuff that's why I don't go near'em.
I think it stems from greed and said entitlement of both parties involved whether rightly "entitled" or not.
Getfit Tommy
Highway Hero
All I'm concerned about is:
1) Being able to drive my truck in the safest and most efficient manner at my disgression (as always)
2) Being able to make money while doing so ("proper" pay, even better)
3) Continue to love what I do for a living and drive the type of rig "I" like to drive
4) (See #1)
I don't really care if I'm right or if I'm wrong, whatever I've been doing for the last 35 years out here has been working for me thus far....
... and highly annoying are the pending "winds of change"
I have enough stress in my life as it is and I feel that I should be responsible for how I do or do not control how it affects me
Amen and Buenas .... whatever
1) Being able to drive my truck in the safest and most efficient manner at my disgression (as always)
2) Being able to make money while doing so ("proper" pay, even better)
3) Continue to love what I do for a living and drive the type of rig "I" like to drive
4) (See #1)
I don't really care if I'm right or if I'm wrong, whatever I've been doing for the last 35 years out here has been working for me thus far....
... and highly annoying are the pending "winds of change"
I have enough stress in my life as it is and I feel that I should be responsible for how I do or do not control how it affects me
Amen and Buenas .... whatever
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