The Island of Misfit Toys

[Steelersjunkie]

Okay, not to sound stupider then I usually do....

How would you know it was Celadon freight, and as long as you get paid lile you are suppose to, why would they care?

I'll know it's them because they'll be listed as the broker. Same with Scneider, US Express, XPO, Landstar, etc. Pretty much every major carrier is also brokering loads. Kinda makes you wonder why company drivers ever sit when their companies are selling loads to outside folks like me. It's a head scratcher. And, you hit the nail on the head. If factoring companies aren't getting paid, we don't haul the freight. I'm not aware of any issues that my company had with them, but our factoring company may have and that's all it takes. Soon as someone stops paying their bills, our factoring company will let all of its customers know that they will no longer finance loads from that carrier. When that happens, my company will email all of us and let us know not to bother with that carrier. Since I've started here, I've received 3 or 4 emails letting us know that a broker has been added to the "do not haul" list for that reason. It has always been individual brokerage companies though, never a carrier. That's a new one on me. Hasn't affected me yet, and normally it never will. When brokers start getting that reputation they dissapear from the boards fairly quickly. Chances of me running into a banned broker are slim and it hasn't happened yet. That being said, chances of that broker folding shop and opening under a new name are good. But these days, tracking those folks has become fairly easy.

 

[Electric Chicken]

I'll know it's them because they'll be listed as the broker. Same with Scneider, US Express, XPO, Landstar, etc. Pretty much every major carrier is also brokering loads. Kinda makes you wonder why company drivers ever sit when their companies are selling loads to outside folks like me. It's a head scratcher. And, you hit the nail on the head. If factoring companies aren't getting paid, we don't haul the freight. I'm not aware of any issues that my company had with them, but our factoring company may have and that's all it takes. Soon as someone stops paying their bills, our factoring company will let all of its customers know that they will no longer finance loads from that carrier. When that happens, my company will email all of us and let us know not to bother with that carrier. Since I've started here, I've received 3 or 4 emails letting us know that a broker has been added to the "do not haul" list for that reason. Hasn't affected me yet, and normally it never will. When brokers start getting that reputation they dissapear from the boards fairly quickly. Chances of me running into a banned broker are slim and it hasn't happened yet. That being said, chances of that broker folding shop and opening under a new name are good. But these days, tracking those folks has become fairly easy.

You need to keep your contractors happy so they're around for you when you need them most. You can f*ck your company drivers without worrying about it. If they quit so what hire another one.

 

[Steelersjunkie]

Is it just me or does Celadon sound like the leader of a mafia celery ring?

Right before I went to school, they were going by a different name. Quality something. They haven't been Celadon for very long.

 

[Electric Chicken]

Right before I went to school, they were going by a different name. Quality something. They haven't been Celadon for very long.

Quality Carriers.

 

[Steelersjunkie]

Quality Carriers.

Yup, that's it

 

[Electric Chicken]

We have the contractor issue right now. We got absolutely hammered, so they had to farm out X amount of it to a broker. Well since they already gave X amount out, we company pukes are light now that it's caught up.

Once the promise ends for the broker and the ticked off company drivers leave (if any) we'll be kind of normal again.

 

[Steelersjunkie]

We have the contractor issue right now. We got absolutely hammered, so they had to farm out X amount of it to a broker. Well since they already gave X amount out, we company pukes are light now that it's caught up.

Once the promise ends for the broker and the ticked off company drivers leave (if any) we'll be kind of normal again.

Christ we work in such a weird world out here. Everyone making deals and moving chess pieces around that can wreck our world (and theirs) and there isn't squat we can do about it.

 

[Duck]

Is it just me or does Celadon sound like the leader of a mafia celery ring?

A million years ago their founder guy was interviewed in one of the truck stop rags we used to read while eating at the TA back before smartphones.

He said he chose the name because some Asian people somewhere declared it to be the most beautiful sounding word in their language. Or some mumbo jumbo like that.

Celadon is the word for some kind of green rocks or pottery or something.

 

[Electric Chicken]

A million years ago their founder guy was interviewed in one of the truck stop rags we used to read while eating at the TA back before smartphones.

He said he chose the name because some Asian people somewhere declared it to be the most beautiful sounding word in their language. Or some mumbo jumbo like that.

Celadon is the word for some kind of green rocks or pottery or something.

Yeah it's ceramics or pottery or whatever.

Doesn't sound particularly beautiful to me though.

 

[Steelersjunkie]

How would you know it was Celadon freight

 

[Steelersjunkie]

I'd invite you to read this.

When u should know when to stay put

I'm a independent I'm running between 460 to 500 miles daily, little to no dead head maybe 12 to 20 miles a day. I'm putting in on average 500 a day in fuel and spending on average 120 in tolls. I'm my gross a week per truck is 5750 lowest is 5000. Would a independent consider this a good...

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I didn't read it all the way through, but I'm getting the gist of the post. Fuel efficiency. It is extremely unfortunate that a lot of folks jumping into ownership or leasing don't realize that the biggest cost we have is fuel. Bar none. But wide eyes and misguided expectations can wreck your future. Now that I can truly choose my path for loads, I'm very picky. My load searches are sorted firstly by least amount of deadhead, and then by weight. I primarily run in Ohio and Indiana, IFTA contributions are very similar. Indiana is only higher by two cents. And they are both among the highest contributors. When the opportunity fits, I'll fuel in Indiana. Just depends on pump price differences. At that point it's splitting hairs. It's to my benefit to wait for the Ohio border if fuel is cheaper, even if it's only 5-10 cents. Typically that's the case. IFTA and fuel cost offset at that point, and to my slight advantage. Because I choose to run short runs (which as you know will produce higher profit per mile) and I'm running in flat states, I'm doing the most I can to conserve fuel. I dont run hammer-down most of the time, and I'm cautious on weight unless the line haul allows for some slop. Haven't run thought a toll gate in at least a month. I'm not going to run 60 in a 70 to save .2 miles per gallon, because that's just retarded. But I watch my fuel and mileage like a hawk.

 

[mndriver]

Fuel economy is only PART of that equation for fuel expense.

Time and labor will still rule.


Like tonight...

I got fuel at ta Seattle -east.

It was $0.07 to $0.17 per gallon cheaper base price than anything I'll see before salt lake on Sunday.

Because I timed my week correctly, I was able to book an additional $1500 worth of freight that wasn't planned for the week.

I finished at the fuel stop end of my 10, time to catch shower and prep to unload 20 miles away and get out of town all before the 8 o'clock dash

 

[Steelersjunkie]

Fuel economy is only PART of that equation for fuel expense.

Time and labor will still rule.

Agreed. My experiences lately has been the results of both luck and asking questions before the rate con gets sent. This sentence always goes through my head when I book. "Walmart floor food". Is it a Walmart load? Is it related to food? If so, where is it going? Is it palletized? If I'm not happy I turn it down no matter how much it pays. I also want to know how fast the turnaround is. 3 bucks a mile is pretty much my minimum but that means nothing if I'm sitting on it for longer than necessary. I guard my availability very closely.

 

[mndriver]

As you should.

I left the ice box for my stepdeck because of McLane foods and Walmart.

I'd just had a heart attack and my wife was afraid I was going to have another because of their stress.

Their disregard, as well as the brokers pawning their loads, for the carrier's time just became too much.

Not being able to book a reload because of not knowing will there be detention, will you be forced to deal with rejected material etc.

Cry fixed appointments all you want. You still Ultimately have the final power of saying "NO!"

Too many carriers and drivers are afraid to use it.

 

[Steelersjunkie]

As you should.

I left the ice box for my stepdeck because of McLane foods and Walmart.

I'd just had a heart attack and my wife was afraid I was going to have another because of their stress.

Their disregard, as well as the brokers pawning their loads, for the carrier's time just became too much.

Not being able to book a reload because of not knowing will there be detention, will you be forced to deal with rejected material etc.

Cry fixed appointments all you want. You still Ultimately have the final power of saying "NO!"

Too many carriers and drivers are afraid to use it.

Sorry bout your heart attack. I had one at the ripe old age of 36 and skinny as a rail. Gotta love genetics

 

[mndriver]

Sorry bout your heart attack. I had one at the ripe old age of 36 and skinny as a rail. Gotta love genetics

47 for me. Same thing. Genetics. Makes the Dot physical a trip every other year.

 

[Electric Chicken]

Sorry bout your heart attack. I had one at the ripe old age of 36 and skinny as a rail. Gotta love genetics

Dammit, driver.

My cousin had one at 16 on the wrestling mat. It's baffling how these things come sometimes.

 

[Steelersjunkie]

Cry fixed appointments all you want. You still Ultimately have the final power of saying "NO!"

100% agreed. I can only criticize O/Os at that point. I remember when I didn't have a choice. Gotta go where your dispatcher sends you when you're in a company truck. I'll take the extra work load for the power to say no.

 

[Electric Chicken]

100% agreed. I can only criticize O/Os at that point. I remember when I didn't have a choice. Gotta go where your dispatcher sends you when you're in a company truck. I'll take the extra work load for the power to say no.

I said hell no to Sysco's down syndrome cousin Sygma after being screwed twice as a company driver. They were pissed but once I showed them what happened they didn't make me go as a live unload again. It became drop & hook.

 

[Steelersjunkie]

Dammit, driver.

My cousin had one at 16 on the wrestling mat. It's baffling how these things come sometimes.

Agreed. Sure didn't see it coming. I come back to my favorite quote. God hates me to much to kill me, he wants me to suffer. The devil won't take me because he doesn't want the competition.