self driving trucks

[gearjammer]

so freightliner has come out with a truck that drives itself, am I the only one that can see the problems with this??
just off the top of my head here are a few of the obvious lets see how many more the forum members can come up with.
1. I have yet to hear of a computer that NEVER breaks down add that with 80,000 lbs and that is a disaster waiting to happen add a hazmat load or an AAE load and now we are talking a MAJOR disaster,
2. we all know how secure communications are, let some 14 yo hacker get into the system say around Chicago, New York, La., ect and begin playing demolition derby, that should make world news.
3. now lets say that the computers are PERFECT,[lol] and the system can NEVER be hacked, [ROFLMAO]
then the obvious vulnerability will be the fact that ALL of these rolling time bombs will have a crash avoidance system so even if everything is prefect all a terrorists needs to do is pass one of these high tech PIECES of SH** slam on the brakes and watch as 80,0000 goes flying off the road taking everything along with it in its now uncontrolled path to ovoid the idiot.
there's the start what else can everyone come up with??

 

[Injun]

It can't fuel itself.

 

[AlexG]

If it's the same one I read earlier this morning, there has to be someone in the cab for emergencies, I think it's more of a open highway kind of program, like you can relax eat your lunch and maybe have a restroom in it and you can take a pee

 

[gearjammer]

If it's the same one I read earlier this morning, there has to be someone in the cab for emergencies, I think it's more of a open highway kind of program, like you can relax eat your lunch and maybe have a restroom in it and you can take a pee

the test truck will have a uh can't call him/her a driver so a babysitter is probably the best description after the government approves the test you can be sure there will not be a babysitter in them, do you really think ATA members will want to pay for babysitters??

 

[Sapper]

Who would I write the citation too????????

 

[Coronado Kid]

The reason a human is in the truck is to set up the computer then reset it

 

[Cat sdp]

Who would I write the citation too????????

The engineer of course.......

Good luck !

 

[Sapper]

The engineer of course.......

Good luck !

LOL, glad for "Officer Discretion"!!!!!

 

[Duck]

1. I have yet to hear of a computer that NEVER breaks down add that with 80,000 lbs and that is a disaster waiting to happen add a hazmat load or an AAE load and now we are talking a MAJOR disaster,

"Blue screen of death" will have a whole new meaning.

 

[Blood]

Who would I write the citation too????????

They issue John Doe warrants.
Maybe you can set a precedent with the first John Doe citation.

 

[Duck]

Who would I write the citation too????????

Vehicle owner?

 

[Giggles]

it cant find 2 skateboards to back in between with your reefer set to continuous either

 

[Duck]

it cant find 2 skateboards to back in between with your reefer set to continuous either

A reefer on continuous is fine. It's start/stop (Carrier) or "cycle sentry" (TK) that annoys the crap out of people.

 

[krelithous]

"Blue screen of death" will have a whole new meaning.

wait till some hacker gets into the system and takes control over the truck. WTF you mean to say that the government isn't afraid of terrorists

 

[Mike]

Who's gonna sit out the triangles when it's on the side of the road broke down?
Who's gonna operate the fire extinguisher when something catches on fire?
Who's gonna navigate it through an unexpected detour?

Long list of things that are going to present a problem, and I can just imagine how massive the lawsuit is going to be when one of these things malfunctions and kills somebody.

 

[Coronado Kid]

Who's gonna sit out the triangles when it's on the side of the road broke down?
Who's gonna operate the fire extinguisher when something catches on fire?
Who's gonna navigate it through an unexpected detour?

Long list of things that are going to present a problem, and I can just imagine how massive the lawsuit is going to be when one of these things malfunctions and kills somebody.

Theirs someone in the truck mike for computer resets like I said

 

[Mike]

Theirs someone in the truck mike for computer resets like I said

That's not the long term plan though. The plan is to remove the driver out of the truck. Otherwise, what is the point?

 

[8978]

Computers are very cheap. In cases like this and the space shuttle there are anywhere from 3 to 5 computers all doing the same thing. At least 2 must agree or they fall back into fail safe mode.

Also, these systems do not have a hard drive. They are all run out of very fast Flash memory like the memory stick that's in a professional camera that can take and store 10 high def pictures a second forever. VERY FAST

And, all CPU's have what is called a dead man timer. This is a separate chip connected to the CPU. The CPU must talk to the dead man timer chip every millisecond (1,000 of a second). If the dead man chip doesn't hear from the CPU for just one click it bangs the reset bit on the main CPU and in less then a few milliseconds it rests itself and continues on. This is a standard hard fast proven concept that has been used forever. After a mission or whatever is complete they look at the log and someone tells Fred to replace CPU #2 before next run.

The last government project I did had 6 CPU's where at least 2 had to agree. Depending on how many resets where done on up to 2 CPU's they weren't even replace. In other words. 1,000 resets on 500,000,000,000 cycles was NOTHING! They were brushed off as anomalies. Depending on the application we had mathematicians that came up with the figures I would program in for the parameters.

Computers are so small now. You look at your laptop and would be surprised what's inside. We have what is call an SOC. System on a Chip. It's about the size of a half dollar and requires just a 9 volt battery with 2 wires to make it run. It has on the average 144 pins to connect up to your USB port, video and other stuff. The program is burned into the chip and the memory is internal also.

DON'T GET ME GOING!!!

 

[Giggles]

A reefer on continuous is fine. It's start/stop (Carrier) or "cycle sentry" (TK) that annoys the crap out of people.

a reefer period will piss a flatbedder off . eps if it an old TK...

 

[Mike]

Computers are very cheap. In cases like this and the space shuttle there are anywhere from 3 to 5 computers all doing the same thing. At least 2 must agree or they fall back into fail safe mode.

Also, these systems do not have a hard drive. They are all run out of very fast Flash memory like the memory stick that's in a professional camera that can take and store 10 high def pictures a second forever. VERY FAST

And, all CPU's have what is called a dead man timer. This is a separate chip connected to the CPU. The CPU must talk to the dead man timer chip every millisecond (1,000 of a second). If the dead man chip doesn't hear from the CPU for just one click it bangs the reset bit on the main CPU and in less then a few milliseconds it rests itself and continues on. This is a standard hard fast proven concept that has been used forever. After a mission or whatever is complete they look at the log and someone tells Fred to replace CPU #2 before next run.

The last government project I did had 6 CPU's where at least 2 had to agree. Depending on how many resets where done on up to 2 CPU's they weren't even replace. In other words. 1,000 resets on 500,000,000,000 cycles was NOTHING! They were brushed off as anomalies. Depending on the application we had mathematicians that came up with the figures I would program in for the parameters.

Computers are so small now. You look at your laptop and would be surprised what's inside. We have what is call an SOC. System on a Chip. It's about the size of a half dollar and requires just a 9 volt battery with 2 wires to make it run. It has on the average 144 pins to connect up to your USB port, video and other stuff. The program is burned into the chip and the memory is internal also.

DON'T GET ME GOING!!!

One more post like this and you WILL be banned!