corneileous
Well-Known Member
Hey guys, looking for information on how to properly fill out the logbooks for short haul drivers. My company just got audited and we just found out that we’ve all been filling our logbooks out the wrong way this whole time. Apparently, we still can’t show over 11 hours worth of driving but if we break our time down to a total of 3 hours off duty, we can legally work up to 14 hours a day now with the new rule...used to be 12, but now it’s 14....and of course, our radius just got extended to 150 air miles instead of just 100 but that’s not what I’m inquiring about.
But here lies the problem... I’ve included a copy of one of my “corrected” logs just for reference but if you look at what I wrote on Monday the 26th of last week, over in the left column is where I wrote down my times for going from on duty to off duty. In the tall boxes to right of those, that’s where you put down basically how many hours you drove because as you can see, I started my time at 6:30AM and went off duty at 12:30PM for a total of 6 hours. Then I came back on duty at 12:45PM, and ended the day at 4:00PM for a total of 3 hours and 15 minutes.
How this log sheet is below in the picture, is supposedly how it’s supposed to be done now, which as you can see, I went on the clock at 6:30 in the morning, and went home at 4 in the afternoon for a total time of 9 and a half hours on duty but if you add up the 6 hours in the top, vertical box with the 3.25 hours in the box below it, that’s only 9.25 hours because that’s minus the one and only 15 minute break I took. But basically in those four vertical boxes on the right for each day, whatever numbers you have there, they can’t total more than 11 hours but if you went on the clock at say, 6am and didn’t turn it off until 6 in the evening, you have to show 12 hours there at the bottom of the day but there must be a one hour break somewhere so that your driving hours doesn’t exceed 11 hours.
Like I said, this how we’re supposedly supposed to fill our logs out from now on. Is this correct?
Used too; and what we “assumed” before was that you could work 12 hours- or now 14 with the new rule but whatever numbers you put in that right hand column, had to equal how many hours you worked from which you got to work and when you left to go home. If you didn’t take no breaks, then at 6 in the evening after starting at 6 in the morning, you were done but if you took a total of an hour off during the shift, you could now run till 7- still has to only show 12 hours but that one hour total worth of breaks gave you an extra hour. Like I said, this is what we were all under the assumption of what was ok but supposedly, not.
I guess it’ll be a while before the boss learns how bad the mistakes cost him but this is the first time he’s ever been audited and since we primarily focus on local driving and not OTR, it sounds like it might just be a slap on the wrist and being told to do it the right way from now on.
But here lies the problem... I’ve included a copy of one of my “corrected” logs just for reference but if you look at what I wrote on Monday the 26th of last week, over in the left column is where I wrote down my times for going from on duty to off duty. In the tall boxes to right of those, that’s where you put down basically how many hours you drove because as you can see, I started my time at 6:30AM and went off duty at 12:30PM for a total of 6 hours. Then I came back on duty at 12:45PM, and ended the day at 4:00PM for a total of 3 hours and 15 minutes.
How this log sheet is below in the picture, is supposedly how it’s supposed to be done now, which as you can see, I went on the clock at 6:30 in the morning, and went home at 4 in the afternoon for a total time of 9 and a half hours on duty but if you add up the 6 hours in the top, vertical box with the 3.25 hours in the box below it, that’s only 9.25 hours because that’s minus the one and only 15 minute break I took. But basically in those four vertical boxes on the right for each day, whatever numbers you have there, they can’t total more than 11 hours but if you went on the clock at say, 6am and didn’t turn it off until 6 in the evening, you have to show 12 hours there at the bottom of the day but there must be a one hour break somewhere so that your driving hours doesn’t exceed 11 hours.
Like I said, this how we’re supposedly supposed to fill our logs out from now on. Is this correct?
Used too; and what we “assumed” before was that you could work 12 hours- or now 14 with the new rule but whatever numbers you put in that right hand column, had to equal how many hours you worked from which you got to work and when you left to go home. If you didn’t take no breaks, then at 6 in the evening after starting at 6 in the morning, you were done but if you took a total of an hour off during the shift, you could now run till 7- still has to only show 12 hours but that one hour total worth of breaks gave you an extra hour. Like I said, this is what we were all under the assumption of what was ok but supposedly, not.
I guess it’ll be a while before the boss learns how bad the mistakes cost him but this is the first time he’s ever been audited and since we primarily focus on local driving and not OTR, it sounds like it might just be a slap on the wrist and being told to do it the right way from now on.
