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I get the idea of HOAs. They're meant to keep the neighborhood looking cohesive and pristine. Some just seem to go overboard, IMHO.

The HOA neighborhoods do tend to look beautiful though. But they also sometimes look like rows of uninhabited model homes.

I don't want to live like white trash but at the same time I don't want anyone breathing down my neck.
 
I get the idea of HOAs. They're meant to keep the neighborhood looking cohesive and pristine. Some just seem to go overboard, IMHO.

The HOA neighborhoods do tend to look beautiful though. But they also sometimes look like rows of uninhabited model homes.

I don't want to live like white trash but at the same time I don't want anyone breathing down my neck.
oh good so i can move next door to ya and paint my house hot pink with bright yellow polka dots and move that old rust bucket bus out in the back yard and ues it for a storage shed:D:rolllaugh3:
 
Looks like I unleashed a Hornets nest...Freedom means being able to pick and choose where one wants to live and if I like a particular Area I should be allowed to purchase a private Property without a Vigilante Committee telling me how I should present it...if they assisted me to make the purchase maybe then they could justify interfering in my personal affairs but otherwise BUTT OUT ...If my last entry was read correctly I made Reference to the fact that we have Departments that keep an eye on Properties and can intervene when / where required not a Citizens Lynch Mob...

I have no quibble with anyone who is part of that System by choice but after reading the list of "Must do" from Injun and GAnthony I am more and more convinced that it is Sanity gone mad...my Property is my pride and joy,I have put 10 years backbreaking work into it and I'm proud of my Achievements and for a total stranger from HOA {or otherwise} to come along and tell me the Committee don't like it merits only one response..."Pog ma hone" roughly Translated means "Kiss my :bootyshake:".....No offense intended to anyone except the HOA Fanatics...
 
oh good so i can move next door to ya and paint my house hot pink with bright yellow polka dots and move that old rust bucket bus out in the back yard and ues it for a storage shed:D:rolllaugh3:
Do what you want. I'll put up a 30 foot fence.

Hell the fence would go up anyway so I don't have to look at YOU.

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Looks like I unleashed a Hornets nest...Freedom means being able to pick and choose where one wants to live and if I like a particular Area I should be allowed to purchase a private Property without a Vigilante Committee telling me how I should present it...if they assisted me to make the purchase maybe then they could justify interfering in my personal affairs but otherwise BUTT OUT ...If my last entry was read correctly I made Reference to the fact that we have Departments that keep an eye on Properties and can intervene when / where required not a Citizens Lynch Mob...

I have no quibble with anyone who is part of that System by choice but after reading the list of "Must do" from Injun and GAnthony I am more and more convinced that it is Sanity gone mad...my Property is my pride and joy,I have put 10 years backbreaking work into it and I'm proud of my Achievements and for a total stranger from HOA {or otherwise} to come along and tell me the Committee don't like it merits only one response..."Pog ma hone" roughly Translated means "Kiss my :bootyshake:".....No offense intended to anyone except the HOA Fanatics...
Once again. You don't HAVE to live in an HOA.


You can't force someone to sell you land in the name of freedom. If it happens to be in an HOA you're out of luck. Join or buy something elsewhere.

Freedom cuts both ways.

HOAs don't just form out of the blue and suck your already built ugly ass house into them and force you to comply. It doesn't work that way.

Preplanned communities are built under an HOA. People buy them on purpose.

Mountain properties sometimes have HOAs for sole purpose of road maintenance. Snow removal in the winter and road repairs in the spring.
 
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There is a vast difference between a Community effort where everyone pulls together for the common good and persuasion works...HOA is a self appointed group of Individuals who dictate Terms to prospective Purchasers thus depriving them of Freedom of choice...they have absolutely no jurisdiction as Private Citizens to dictate to anyone irrespective of their aims...I have no problems keeping my Property clean and presentable but to give me no choice in how I choose to Decorate my Garden or Paint my House {excluding Pink with Polka dot's}is Dictatorship...

Mountain Properties and such are an entirely different matter...I'd have absolutely no problems with reasonable demands which contribute to the Survival / Safety / Comforts of it's Inhabitants as you stated...but when these demands include Uniformity of all Homes in every way that is really a step too far...



"Overboard" is the Key word...and that exactly describes the HOA........
 
@Skateboard is right. We can choose to move into an HOA or not, in most cases.

Whether we choose to or not, we have the right to gripe about them.

And there have been instances where a few established neighbors had a developer buy land around them and create an HOA. They have gotten "stuck" with it against their will, after properties around them sold and the gated community was built. Some have lost their properties to the incoming HOA.

There are many stories of people having vehicles towed out if their own driveways. There was an owner-operator who had an HOA grow up around him and begin griping about his tractor/trailer, which he had always parked at his home. He tried to appease them by building a fence and parking his rig behind that. He went on vacation with his wife for three weeks. When he returned, his gate was hanging open and his rig was gone. The HOA had towed it during the first week of his vacation. The storage fees were so high when he returned, he couldn't pay them. No truck, no job, no money coming in. After a lengthy court battle, he lost everything...because an HOA grew up around him.
In Florida, a man got home from work. His son's tutor was parked in the driveway, so he pulled in behind the tutor's car. Within an hour, a tow truck was hooking to his car. He ran out to stop it, but got run over by his own car.

HOAs get a little ridiculous with their demands and the CC&Rs in place when you move in can change when the HOA board changes.

Some areas, it seems like there isn't a lot of choice whether to live in such a community. The area is full of nothing but HOAs. Hayden, ID is getting that way. There are five new developments going in right now and they will all be HOAs.

I do not live in one. I haven't lived in one in a very long time. Oddly enough, the areas I've been without HOAs don't have people revving their wannabe Harleys at 2 am, don't have cars on blocks in the street, don't have homes with waist-high grass and overgrown garden, don't have mongrels roaming the streets and don't have any other of the problems Skateboard listed as reasons for HOAs. People who live in the neighborhoods I've been in respect each other and, for the most part, look out for each other.

If somebody's lawn is getting high, somebody who has a history of taking care of it, a neighbor will knock on the door and check on the resident. If a strange car is in the area, neighbors will see whether it gets moved and will call city parking enforcement if it isn't...after checking with the property resident first. People who have jobs are not prohibited from bringing their work vehicles home.

I choose to live in blue-collar neighborhoods with people who understand people have to make a living, but also generally take care of their stuff.
 
Do what you want. I'll put up a 30 foot fence.

Hell the fence would go up anyway so I don't have to look at YOU.

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2 things...

1) many cities require a permit for a fence taller than 8'..i know this to be true in my area.

2) you're so damned short, you wouldn't be able to see over a 3' fence...why spend the money.>????
 

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