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It was either by request or because of a repeated steering wheel shimmy complaint and I had the tires rebalanced, and the wheel bearings pulled inspected and reinstalled to proper torque, and checked kingpin play, before the current complaint.
 
I'd believe improper bearing setup over any thing else for a "balance" issue in the front end.

I had 6 different shops and 7 mechanics all swear they were correct .

I finally went to Freightliner and demanded the instructions for myself and bought a 150-600 lb/ft torque wrench and did the job myself.

Night and day difference when done to specifications.
 
I'd believe improper bearing setup over any thing else for a "balance" issue in the front end.

I had 6 different shops and 7 mechanics all swear they were correct .

I finally went to Freightliner and demanded the instructions for myself and bought a 150-600 lb/ft torque wrench and did the job myself.

Night and day difference when done to specifications.
Yep too many lazy fuckers out there don’t do it right.
 
"torque to 50 /b/ft, back off and finger tight" isn't the only procedure...


I still get pissed over that.

6 sets of steers, seven 3-axle alignment and a 5-axle. $9000 wasted because a bunch of mechanics swore they knew their shit.
 
my tire guy came over and put 2 steers on my truck today.One steer was in really good shape.The other looked like it was out of round,with a worn spot.He showed me the rim,mounted, and showed me the reason the tire wore like it did.I figured ,what the hecks a few bucks on the lug nuts.I use centramatics on my front steers
 
beats me,I`ll find out soon
next Sat a guy is going to replace the seal and bearing on the front drive where the short drive shaft to the rear is.I`ll see if he can take a look
 
beats me,I`ll find out soon
next Sat a guy is going to replace the seal and bearing on the front drive where the short drive shaft to the rear is.I`ll see if he can take a look
2 easy ways to test it. If you have a thermal gun take a temp reading on the lower part of the shock then drive the truck a while and check again there should be a significant temp increase. Even compare to the other side. If they aren’t close in temp the lower temp one is bad or low compression.

Other way is by feel, less accurate but if ones warm to the touch and the other is ambient temp after driving you found the bad one.
 
anyone recommend some centering lug nuts for steer alxe?
If you have loose wheel bearings, they certainly aren't going to fix that. Jack up your steers, and you should be able to tell if you have a problem there.

I've used TruBalance - they work really well. Removes more of the vibration, after everything else is tightened up properly. There's always a little slop left over when everything is centered on the hub. Centering sleeves remove that, and you lose the off center wear effects on brake drums, get better tire wear etc.

Im sure @mndriver will disagree with all of the above.
 
my tire guy came over and put 2 steers on my truck today.One steer was in really good shape.The other looked like it was out of round,with a worn spot.He showed me the rim,mounted, and showed me the reason the tire wore like it did.I figured ,what the hecks a few bucks on the lug nuts.I use centramatics on my front steers
Did you check for out of round and run out?
 
the tire looks a little like a out of round in one spot..He pointed out the inside hub where the rim isn`t centered good.Sugessted a few of those nuts to see if it fixes the problem
 
the tire looks a little like a out of round in one spot..He pointed out the inside hub where the rim isn`t centered good.Sugessted a few of those nuts to see if it fixes the problem
If you use the centreing stud tools when you mount the steers, you shouldn’t need the centreing nuts
 
the tire looks a little like a out of round in one spot..He pointed out the inside hub where the rim isn`t centered good.Sugessted a few of those nuts to see if it fixes the problem
If it's showing out of round, you need to get it trued.

Typical out of round or run-out issues are a result of poor mounting practices and using incorrect or not enough lube to actual manufacturing issues. When you spin balance the tire before it even goes on the truck is where I find those issues.

The rim itself centers itself on the hub and the tabs around it. Not on studs.
 
If it's showing out of round, you need to get it trued.

Typical out of round or run-out issues are a result of poor mounting practices and using incorrect or not enough lube to actual manufacturing issues. When you spin balance the tire before it even goes on the truck is where I find those issues.

The rim itself centers itself on the hub and the tabs around it. Not on studs.
Those sleeves center the stud in the hole and I never understood why that was so important. Some people swear it makes vibration go away and changes tire wear. I think it’s snake oil. And the only positive effects are caused by placebo.
 
Yeah I rekon, because the rim is centered on a pilot hub by tabs in the middle. What does it matter if the stud is a 1/4” left or right of center? Anywho.
It's less than that, but theres enough play to increase the runout so you're rotating the tire slightly off center. Its not much, but the vibration can be felt in th he steering wheel, and the tire wears faster.
 

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