Tim
U.S.Constitution
Kentucky wont renew a CDL with an expired physical card.
Rooster, you have a hard time knowing what the truck speed limit is in west Texas, this to is probably over your head.
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Kentucky wont renew a CDL with an expired physical card.
Rooster, you have a hard time knowing what the truck speed limit is in west Texas, this to is probably over your head.
Well, I'm done trying to convince you. I am a motor carrier and because of that I get notified directly by the FMCSA of new changes coming down the pike. If I was home I would scan in the new changes. They are plastered all over the internet right now. Here is just one good example from Colorado explaining the new rules.
Hold on an I'll also find the new FMCSA rule that states the new rule. It's already there.
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/Revenue-MV/RMV/1251609017278
Hold on an I'll also find the new FMCSA rule that states the new rule. It's already there.
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/Revenue-MV/RMV/1251609017278
Here is Iowa explaining the new changes. I think you should listen to your rule person instead. They seem more knowledgeable then the FMSCA and myself.
http://www.iowadot.gov/mvd/ods/MCRforCDL.html
http://www.iowadot.gov/mvd/ods/MCRforCDL.html
| What must I do to comply with the new requirements for making my medical certification part of my CDL driving record? | |
Starting on January 30, 2012, when you:
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| How do I determine which type of commercial motor vehicle (CMV) operation I should self-certify to my SDLA? | |
For the purpose of complying with the new requirements for medical certification, it is important to know how you are using the CMV. To help you decide, follow these steps: Step 1: Do you, or will you, use a CDL to operate a CMV in interstate or intrastate commerce? Interstate commerce is when you drive a CMV:
If you operate in both intrastate commerce and interstate commerce, you must choose interstate commerce. Step 2: Once you decide you operate or will operate in interstate commerce or intrastate commerce, you must decide whether you operate (or expect to operate) in a non-excepted or excepted status. This decision will tell you to which of the four types of commerce you must self-certify. Interstate Commerce: You operate in excepted interstate commerce when you drive a CMV in interstate commerce only for the following excepted activities:
If you answered no to all of the above activities, you operate in non-excepted interstate commerce and are required to provide a current medical examiner’s certificate (49 CFR 391.45),commonly referred to as a medical certificate or DOT card, to your SDLA. Most CDL holders who drive CMVs in interstate commerce are non-excepted interstate commerce drivers. If you operate in both excepted interstate commerce and non-excepted interstate commerce, you must choose non-excepted interstate commerce to be qualified to operate in both types of interstate commerce. Intrastate Commerce: You operate in excepted Intrastate commerce when you drive a CMV only in intrastate commerce activities for which your State of licensure has determined do not require you to meet the State’s medical certification requirements. You operate in non-excepted intrastate commerce when you drive a CMV only in intrastate commerce and are required to meet your State of licensure’s medical certification requirements. If you operate in both excepted intrastate commerce and non-excepted intrastate commerce, you must choose non-excepted intrastate commerce. Step 3: Provide your SDLA with your self-certification of your operating status. If you self-certify to non-excepted interstate on or after January 30, 2012, you must provide your SDLA with either the original or copy of your current medical examiner’s certificate as required by your SDLA. If your medical examiner’s certificate is only valid with a vision, diabetes or a skills performance evaluation variance granted by FMCSA, you may also be asked by your SDLA to provide a copy of that variance document. | |
| What if I am an existing CDL holder who does not have a license renewal, upgrade or transfer between January 30, 2012 and January 30, 2014? | |
You are responsible for following the three steps above and providing your SDLA with your self-certification of operating status by January 30, 2014. If required, you must also provide your current medical examiner’s certificate and any variance document by January 30, 2014. Your SDLA will tell you how you can provide this information. | |
| After I provide my SDLA with my unexpired medical examiner’s certificate, do I still have to carry an original or copy of my medical examiner’s certificate? | |
Yes. Until the program is fully implemented on January 30, 2014, you will still have to carry an original or copy of the medical examiner’s certificate and provide a copy to your employer for your driver qualification file. | |
| What should I do with the medical examiner’s certificate beginning on January 30, 2014? | |
After you provide your SDLA and your employer with the medical examiner’s certificate, the medical examiner’s certificate will only be valid for the first 15 days after it was issued. Your medical examiner’s certificate will be recorded on your driving record and will become the valid version of your medical certification. | |
| What if I do not provide my SDLA with my self-certification and if required, my medical examiner’s certificate and any required variance document by January 30, 2014? | |
Your SDLA will notify you that you are no longer medically certified to operate a CMV in non-excepted Interstate commerce. The SDLA will then remove all your CDL privileges from your license. | |
| What should I do when my medical certificate and/or variance is about to expire? | |
You must have a new medical examination and obtain a new medical certificate. You must then provide the SDLA the new medical examiner’s certificate. You are also responsible for applying to FMCSA for a renewal of your variance. | |
| What happens if my medical examiner’s certificate or variance expires before I provide my SDLA with a new one? | |
Your SDLA will notify you that you are no longer medically certified to operate a CMV in non-excepted Interstate commerce. The SDLA will then remove all your CDL privileges from your license. | |
| How can I get back my CDL privileges? | |
If the medical examiner’s certificate has expired, you must obtain a new one and provide it to your SDLA. If the variance has expired, you must renew it with FMCSA. Your State may require retesting and additional fees to get back your CDL privileges. If allowed by your SDLA, you may also change your self-certification to an operating category that does not require a medical certificate. NO WHERE does this new rule state at the FED level that one can NOT renew his CDL without a valid medical. You can have the CDL, you can NOT drive "commercially" without the medical. Please explain to me just what part of this do you NOT understand??? Once again, PLEASE provide the CHAPTER AND VERSE! It does NOT exist! As far as the smartass comment on the west Texas speed limit, I qualified this by saying that I hadn't been there in a few months. Addendum.... I just got off the phone with Rule Person. No where in the KY state statutes does it say that you are NOT allowed to renew a CDL without proof of current medical. It simply states that you must provide proof of valid medical IF you are operating a "COMMERCIAL" vehicle upon being asked to provide such proof. Once again, PLEASE PROVIDE "CHAPTER AND VERSE"! The Why do I feel like I'm preaching to the choir???? |
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SweetDaddy
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Easy how did the armenian mafia in California got the multi millions of medicare money they did
They lied
They paid somebody off an used bogus/boughten or stolen numbers
too run there scheme
SweetDaddy
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What must I do to comply with the new requirements for making my medical certification part of my CDL driving record?
Starting on January 30, 2012, when you:
You will be required to self certify to a single type of commercial operation on your driver license application form. Based on that self certification, you may need to provide your SDLA with a current medical examiner’s certificate and show any variance you may have to obtain or keep your CDL.
- Apply for a CDL;
- Renew a CDL;
- Apply for a higher class of CDL;
- Apply for a new endorsement on a CDL; or
- Transfer a CDL from another State
How do I determine which type of commercial motor vehicle (CMV) operation I should self-certify to my SDLA?
For the purpose of complying with the new requirements for medical certification, it is important to know how you are using the CMV. To help you decide, follow these steps:
Step 1: Do you, or will you, use a CDL to operate a CMV in interstate or intrastate commerce?
Interstate commerce is when you drive a CMV:
Intrastate commerce is when you drive a CMV within a State and you do not meet any of the descriptions above for interstate commerce.
- From one State to another State or a foreign country;
- Between two places within a State, but during part of the trip, the CMV crosses into another State or foreign country; or
- Between two places within a State, but the cargo is part of a trip that began or will end in another State or foreign country.
If you operate in both intrastate commerce and interstate commerce, you must choose interstate commerce.
Step 2: Once you decide you operate or will operate in interstate commerce or intrastate commerce, you must decide whether you operate (or expect to operate) in a non-excepted or excepted status. This decision will tell you to which of the four types of commerce you must self-certify.
Interstate Commerce:
You operate in excepted interstate commerce when you drive a CMV in interstate commerce only for the following excepted activities:
If you answered yes to one or more of the above activities as the only operation in which you drive, you operate in excepted interstate commerce and do not need a Federal medical examiner’s certificate.
- To transport school children and/or school staff between home and school;
- As Federal, State or local government employees;
- To transport human corpses or sick or injured persons;
- Fire truck or rescue vehicle drivers during emergencies and other related activities;
- Primarily in the transportation of propane winter heating fuel when responding to an emergency condition requiring immediate response such as damage to a propane gas system after a storm or flooding;
- In Response to a pipeline emergency condition requiring immediate response such as a pipeline leak or rupture;
- In custom harvesting on a farm or to transport farm machinery and supplies used in the custom harvesting operation to and from a farm or to transport custom harvested crops to storage or market;
- Beekeeper in the seasonal transportation of bees;
- Controlled and operated by a farmer, but is not a combination vehicle (power unit and towed unit), and is used to transport agricultural products, farm machinery or farm supplies (no placardable hazardous materials) to and from a farm and within 150 air-miles of the farm;
- As a private motor carrier of passengers for non-business purposes ; or
- To transport migrant workers.
If you answered no to all of the above activities, you operate in non-excepted interstate commerce and are required to provide a current medical examiner’s certificate (49 CFR 391.45),commonly referred to as a medical certificate or DOT card, to your SDLA. Most CDL holders who drive CMVs in interstate commerce are non-excepted interstate commerce drivers.
If you operate in both excepted interstate commerce and non-excepted interstate commerce, you must choose non-excepted interstate commerce to be qualified to operate in both types of interstate commerce.
Intrastate Commerce:
You operate in excepted Intrastate commerce when you drive a CMV only in intrastate commerce activities for which your State of licensure has determined do not require you to meet the State’s medical certification requirements.
You operate in non-excepted intrastate commerce when you drive a CMV only in intrastate commerce and are required to meet your State of licensure’s medical certification requirements.
If you operate in both excepted intrastate commerce and non-excepted intrastate commerce, you must choose non-excepted intrastate commerce.
Step 3: Provide your SDLA with your self-certification of your operating status. If you self-certify to non-excepted interstate on or after January 30, 2012, you must provide your SDLA with either the original or copy of your current medical examiner’s certificate as required by your SDLA.
If your medical examiner’s certificate is only valid with a vision, diabetes or a skills performance evaluation variance granted by FMCSA, you may also be asked by your SDLA to provide a copy of that variance document.
What if I am an existing CDL holder who does not have a license renewal, upgrade or transfer between January 30, 2012 and January 30, 2014?
You are responsible for following the three steps above and providing your SDLA with your self-certification of operating status by January 30, 2014. If required, you must also provide your current medical examiner’s certificate and any variance document by January 30, 2014. Your SDLA will tell you how you can provide this information.
After I provide my SDLA with my unexpired medical examiner’s certificate, do I still have to carry an original or copy of my medical examiner’s certificate?
Yes. Until the program is fully implemented on January 30, 2014, you will still have to carry an original or copy of the medical examiner’s certificate and provide a copy to your employer for your driver qualification file.
What should I do with the medical examiner’s certificate beginning on January 30, 2014?
After you provide your SDLA and your employer with the medical examiner’s certificate, the medical examiner’s certificate will only be valid for the first 15 days after it was issued. Your medical examiner’s certificate will be recorded on your driving record and will become the valid version of your medical certification.
What if I do not provide my SDLA with my self-certification and if required, my medical examiner’s certificate and any required variance document by January 30, 2014?
Your SDLA will notify you that you are no longer medically certified to operate a CMV in non-excepted Interstate commerce. The SDLA will then remove all your CDL privileges from your license.
What should I do when my medical certificate and/or variance is about to expire?
You must have a new medical examination and obtain a new medical certificate. You must then provide the SDLA the new medical examiner’s certificate. You are also responsible for applying to FMCSA for a renewal of your variance.
What happens if my medical examiner’s certificate or variance expires before I provide my SDLA with a new one?
Your SDLA will notify you that you are no longer medically certified to operate a CMV in non-excepted Interstate commerce. The SDLA will then remove all your CDL privileges from your license.
How can I get back my CDL privileges?
If the medical examiner’s certificate has expired, you must obtain a new one and provide it to your SDLA. If the variance has expired, you must renew it with FMCSA. Your State may require retesting and additional fees to get back your CDL privileges. If allowed by your SDLA, you may also change your self-certification to an operating category that does not require a medical certificate.
NO WHERE does this new rule state at the FED level that one can NOT renew his CDL without a valid medical. You can have the CDL, you can NOT drive "commercially" without the medical.
Please explain to me just what part of this do you NOT understand???
Once again, PLEASE provide the CHAPTER AND VERSE! It does NOT exist!
As far as the smartass comment on the west Texas speed limit, I qualified this by saying that I hadn't been there in a few months.
Addendum.... I just got off the phone with Rule Person. No where in the KY state statutes does it say that you are NOT allowed to renew a CDL without proof of current medical. It simply states that you must provide proof of valid medical IF you are operating a "COMMERCIAL" vehicle upon being asked to provide such proof.
Once again, PLEASE PROVIDE "CHAPTER AND VERSE"! The
Why do I feel like I'm preaching to the choir????
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Well that is brilliant.....and your stil 100% wrong @RaggedRooster
That is nothing but a trukload
Of chicken chitt
Plain,Pure an Simple
Chicken chitt
You still have NOT provided Chapter and Verse as to where ANY state will refuse to renew your CDL without a medical.
Why? Because it doesn't exist.
Either show me EXACTLY where it says that is the rule or stop attacking me as wrong!
I went to KY DMV and NO where does it state that you can not obtain or renew a CDL without a current medical..
I rest my case....
Why? Because it doesn't exist.
Either show me EXACTLY where it says that is the rule or stop attacking me as wrong!
I went to KY DMV and NO where does it state that you can not obtain or renew a CDL without a current medical..
I rest my case....
SweetDaddy
Well-Known Member
Easy now ramboo iam just teasin dang man
Take a chill pill [MENTION=9571]Ragged Rooster[/MENTION]
Take a chill pill [MENTION=9571]Ragged Rooster[/MENTION]
Tim
U.S.Constitution
(n) Computer system controls. The State must establish computer system controls that will: (1) Prevent the issuance of an initial, renewed, upgraded, or transferred CLP or CDL when the results of transactions indicate the applicant is unqualified. These controls, at a minimum, must be established for the following transactions: State, CDLIS, and PDPS driver record checks; Social Security Number verification; and knowledge and skills test scores verification. (2) Suspend the issuance process whenever State, CDLIS, and/or PDPS driver record checks return suspect results. The State must demonstrate that it has a system to detect and prevent fraud when a driver record check returns suspect results. At a minimum, the system must ensure that: (i) The results are not connected to a violation of any State or local law relating to motor vehicle traffic control (other than parking, vehicle weight, or vehicle defect violations); (ii) The name of the persons performing the record check and authorizing the issuance, and the justification for the authorization are documented by the State; and (iii) The person performing the record check and the person authorizing the issuance are not the same. (o) Medical recordkeeping. (1) Status of CDL holder. Beginning January 30, 2012, for each operator of a commercial motor vehicle required to have a CLP or CDL, the current licensing State must: (i) Post the driver's self-certification of type of driving under §383.71(b)(1)(ii), (ii) Retain the original or a copy of the medical certificate of any driver required to provide documentation of physical qualification for 3 years beyond the date the certificate was issued, and (iii) Post the information from the medical examiner's certificate within 10 calendar days to the CDLIS driver record, including: (A) Medical examiner's name; (B) Medical examiner's telephone number; (C) Date of medical examiner's certificate issuance; (D) Medical examiner's license number and the State that issued it; (E) Medical examiner's National Registry identification number (if the National Registry of Medical Examiners, mandated by 49 U.S.C. 31149(d), requires one); (F) The indicator of medical certification status, i.e., “certified” or “not-certified”; (G) Expiration date of the medical examiner's certificate; (H) Existence of any medical variance on the medical certificate, such as an exemption, Skill Performance Evaluation (SPE) certification, or grandfather provisions; (I) Any restrictions (e.g., corrective lenses, hearing aid, required to have possession of an exemption letter or SPE certificate while on-duty, etc.); and (J) Date the medical examiner's certificate information was posted to the CDLIS driver record.
(2) Status update. Beginning January 30, 2012, the State must, within 10 calendar days of the driver's medical certification status expiring or a medical variance expiring or being rescinded, update the medical certification status of that driver as “not-certified.”
(3) Variance update. Beginning January 30, 2012, within 10 calendar days of receiving information from FMCSA regarding issuance or renewal of a medical variance for a driver, the State must update the CDLIS driver record to include the medical variance information provided by FMCSA.
(4) Downgrade. (i) Beginning January 30, 2012, if a driver's medical certification or medical variance expires, or FMCSA notifies the State that a medical variance was removed or rescinded, the State must:
(A) Notify the CLP or CDL holder of his/her CLP or CDL “not-certified” medical certification status and that the CMV privileges will be removed from the CLP or CDL unless the driver submits a current medical certificate and/or medical variance, or changes his/her self-certification to driving only in excepted or intrastate commerce (if permitted by the State);
(B) Initiate established State procedures for downgrading the CLP or CDL. The CLP or CDL downgrade must be completed and recorded within 60 days of the driver's medical certification status becoming “not-certified” to operate a CMV.
(ii) Beginning January 30, 2014, if a driver fails to provide the State with the certification contained in §383.71(b)(1)(ii), or a current medical examiner's certificate if the driver self-certifies according to §383.71(b)(1)(ii)(A) that he/she is operating in non-excepted interstate commerce as required by §383.71(h), the State must mark that CDLIS driver record as “not-certified” and initiate a CLP or CDL downgrade following State procedures in accordance with paragraph (o)(4)(i)(B) of this section.
(5) FMCSA Medical Programs is designated as the keeper of the list of State contacts for receiving medical variance information from FMCSA. Beginning January 30, 2012, States are responsible for insuring their medical variance contact information is always up-to-date with FMCSA's Medical Programs. [76 FR 26883, May 9, 2011]
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=383.73#Tag15
Once you medical certificate expires so does your CDL rights to drive a truck. If you dont have a current up to date DOT physical at the time you have to get your CDL license renewed your SOL and will only be licensed to drive a car!!!
Need more proof?
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...mcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=383.73&guidence=Y
Question 9: When a State chooses to meet the certification requirements of §383.73 (a)(1), (b)(1),(c)(1) and (d)(1) by demanding, as part of its licensing process, that a commercial driver maintain with the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) currently valid evidence of compliance with the physical qualification standards of part 391, subpart E, may the State suspend, cancel or revoke the driver’s CDL if he/she does not maintain such evidence with the DMV?
Guidance: Yes. §383.73 requires a State to obtain from a driver applicant a certification that he/she meets the qualification standards of part 391, including subpart E (Physical Qualifications and Examinations).A requirement that a driver maintain currently valid evidence of compliance with subpart E does not conflict with part 383, since the Commercial Motor Vehicle Safety Act of 1986 (CMVSA) made it clear that the DOT was to issue ‘‘regulations to establish minimum Federal standards * * *’’ (49 U.S.C. 31305(a)). A State may therefore demand more information or tests than the Federal CDL regulations require. If a driver fails to comply with State requirements which are not inconsistent with part 383, the State may suspend, cancel or revoke the driver’s CDL. This action is not a disqualification for purposes of §383.51, but a withdrawal of the commercial driving privilege.
Question 10: What action should enforcement officers take when a commercial driver's CDL has been declared invalid by the issuing State because of a lapse in the driver’s medical certificate?
Guidance: Whatever the reason for the State’s decision, a driver with an invalid CDL may not lawfully drive a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV).
You just posted the chapter in which your CMV OPERATING PRIVELEDGES WILL BE DOWNGRADED which is EXACTLY what I said. You will NOT be allowed to operate a CMV without a valid medical. NO CHANGE THERE! However, your class of license remains the SAME! The class of license does NOT change. Your license does NOT revert to a class c. PERIOD. You may at ANY time submit a valid medical to the issuing state of the CDL and resume your CMV operating privelidges.
You nor anyone else here has provided chapter and verse as to HOW YOUR CLASS A CDL IS EITHER IS NULL AND VOID OR IT REVERTS TO A STANDARD CLASS C.
JUST EXACTLY WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
Here's exactly what I'm talking about.....
Question 10: What action should enforcement officers take when a commercial driver's CDL has been declared invalid by the issuing State because of a lapse in the driver’s medical certificate?
>>>>>Guidance: Whatever the reason for the State’s decision, a driver with an invalid CDL may not lawfully drive a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV).<<<<<<
Your own posting says you may not lawfully drive a CMV. It DOES NOT SAY YOUR CDL IS RENDERED USELESS OR THE CLASS CHANGES. IT PLAINLY STATES THAT YOU MAY NOT LAWFULLY DRIVE A CMV. Did you bother to read what you posted??
NO where does it say that if your medical expires your CMV goes with it. Your "OPERATING PRIVELIGES" go out the window, but your license is NOT cancelled. You may take a hiatus and the class of license does NOT change, only the ability to drive a CMV is rendered void. Show me where it says the state(s) are mandated to send you a notice of cancellation of CDL because your medical expired. What is the time frame on that. There is none. Go back and read your own post.
Now....Once again, SHOW ME CHAPTER AND VERSE IN FMCSA RULES that plainly states that your class of license changes if your medical is not current.
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For a very short time in Washington state that was the case. Back in the early 1990's I think.
I went in to renew my license once back then and the guy at the DOL asked to see my medical card. As I was digging in my wallet for it I commented that I nad never been asked to show it when renewing previously, and he told me it was something new, and if I didn't have a current medical card that I not only could not renew the CDL portion of the license, I would have to "start at the beginning after getting a current medical".
Then a couple years later when it was time to renew again, I simply handed the DOL guy my license and medical card. He handed the medical card back without even looking at it. I asked him why, and was told that they weren't doing that any more.
And a couple months ago I got a letter form the state DOL telling me that I will now be required to certify if I am involved in intrastate or interstate commerce, and provide the long form of my medical by a certain date or when I renew my license in 2013, whichever comes first.
It seems like the rules are changing every six months to a year anymore. Hard to keep up.
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I have been able to download the PDF file of the medical form directly from the state DOL website for many years. I print it out and fill in the pertinent information prior to visiting my physician when I go in for the physical.
Why someone is charging $10 for New Hampshire medical forms is beyond me. I bet that anyone can get them for free from the DOL website, just like in my state.
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The key part of Skateboard's post is "unless your CDL was cancelled for more than a year". The same also will apply to the medical card under the recent changes to the rules.
Without a valid and current long form medical from a DOT certified physician, drivers will not be able to renew a CDL.
In any state.
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Racer X 69
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The rules regarding the medical form and renewing the CDL go into effect in 2013.
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Racer X 69
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Why buy the form? Download it for free from the state DOL website.
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Racer X 69
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You should have received a notice from the Texas DOL regarding the upcoming changes to the certification of intrastate or interstate operation, and your obligation to provide a copy of the long for medical papers when renewing. The medical form stuff will not fully go into effect until January 30, 2014.
All drivers will be required to provide a copy of the long form when renewing a CDL after that, and the new requirement is getting phased in gradually in all states from now until then.
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Beginning January 30, 2014 you will not. In any state.
Our medical cards in NH are a little different. The long form has your medical card on it. It's prelaminated and when you write on the copy above it goes through the lamination some how? It's magic to me. It has a perforated edge that turns blue when you take the card out.
Anyway, my buddy is a DOT cop and he said the number of fake medical cards is staggering. In a nut shell, when you get your medical the doctor has to go online at least once a month and enter the results of everyone tested along with the medical card number. This data can now be looked up and verified by both your local DMV and a roadside inspection.
Also, all doctors have to be trained in the new medical process or they cannot do medical exams. Some of the key points in this new procedure will be BMI and neck size. If your neck size is greater than 17 for a man and 16 for a woman you must have a sleep apnea test at your expense.
You will also be asked to demonstrate feats of strength. Oops, never mind, that's Festivous.
You will be given a skills test like turning your head from left to right, up and down and so on. But here is the kicker. Touch your toes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When was the last time any of you tried to touch your toes? It was hard for me and I'm in OK shape.
Anyway, my buddy is a DOT cop and he said the number of fake medical cards is staggering. In a nut shell, when you get your medical the doctor has to go online at least once a month and enter the results of everyone tested along with the medical card number. This data can now be looked up and verified by both your local DMV and a roadside inspection.
Also, all doctors have to be trained in the new medical process or they cannot do medical exams. Some of the key points in this new procedure will be BMI and neck size. If your neck size is greater than 17 for a man and 16 for a woman you must have a sleep apnea test at your expense.
You will also be asked to demonstrate feats of strength. Oops, never mind, that's Festivous.
You will be given a skills test like turning your head from left to right, up and down and so on. But here is the kicker. Touch your toes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When was the last time any of you tried to touch your toes? It was hard for me and I'm in OK shape.
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