Forged DOT physical cards

[Mike]

I wonder if a lot of drs offices will stop giving the dot physicals because they won't want to fool with having to enter all the info into the dot databases? Just curious.......

Yes, they will quit. The dot's new requirements on physicals will result in many doctors simply not doing them.

Or, they will become much more expensive. Unlike many truckers mistakenly do, doctors won't take on additional work for free

 

[midwestbound]

Yes, they will quit. The dot's new requirements on physicals will result in many doctors simply not doing them.

Or, they will become much more expensive. Unlike many truckers mistakenly do, doctors won't take on additional work for free

I think skateboard posted that the doctors will have to take a class or something in order to do the dot physicals in the future. Of course they are going to charge more for them because now they will have some sort of certificate from the DOT stating they are qualified to be able to charge more.

 

[Racer X 69]

You most certainly did.

I did not. And you have failed to show where you say I did.

You rebutted almost everything I had to say without even reading the post in it's entirety.

No I have not. I made one simple comment, about a very specific detail of your post.

I said before that I am NOT driving commercially now therefore I do NOT need a medical. I give RV driving lessons part time and I need to have a class of license that allows me to be in control of students who have "learners permits" for Class A or B "exempt" licenses. More commonly referred to as RV licenses for motorhomes in excess of 26,001 pounds. Secondly, I did not want to give up my CDL in case I decided to go back on the road. I didn't want to have to go through all the crap to get it back if I let it expire.

Yes, you have said all this before, in other discussions, many times. I think we get it.

But this discussion is about forged medical cards (mostly), not about your license history and current status. (and I know this comment will bite me in the ass after another statement I will make a few lines down)
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Texas law states that you can renew your CDL Class A or B WITHOUT a medical.

Good for Texas.

When you renew your medical, you are required to send it to the proper authority to register it. They give you the form. They also advise you to have the doctor send the results as well.

When I renew my medical, it is at my doctor's office. Up until this upcoming change in the way it is processed, after the physician fills out the long form and the card, and takes a copy for their files, in my state the next step is for me to place the card in my wallet (I like to laminate it and keep it with my license), and provide my employer a copy of the long form. Then when I renew my license I show my medical card to the person at the DOL. (this process has changed a few times over the years, but the how and why is not relevant here)

Hence my comment about READING THE ENTIRE POST and gleaning the meaning of the information presented BEFORE telling someone they are incorrect.

Again, you have failed to show where I said such a thing.

Please tell me that during the course of your entire driving career you have NEVER made a mistake and let something like that creep up on you.

I never, in over 30 years of having a Class A endorsement, and then the CDL, never, ever let such a thing "creep up on me". I have always accepted the responsibilities that accompany the driving privilege very seriously. Never have I failed to renew my license on time, never have I failed to schedule a physical in a timely manner, and never have I failed to renew any of the expiring items like hazmat or the TWIC.

I tested for, and received a license to operate a motor vehicle when I was 17 years old. When I was 19 I added the motorcycle endorsement. Before I turned 20 I had also added the "A" endorsement, as a condition of my employment as a truck mechanic apprentice at the electric utility where I worked for the majority of my adult life. When the Commercial Drivers License program began in the early 1990's, I tested for, and converted to that.

And throughout all of those years I have never, ever forgotten the importance of my obligations and responsibilities concerning my driving privilege. (as I said above, this may bit me in the ass, but, hey, you asked)

If you can honestly say that you are that perfect, I bow to you.

Nobody can make that claim.

You are in an EXTREMELY small minority.

Maybe so. Apparently far too many people do not recognize the importance of responsibility. Something that we are all suppose to learn about as we enter adulthood is taking responsibility for one's self, and one's affairs.

I have had my Class A expire by 3 weeks because I was held up in CA with a blown engine.

Really? You didn't know when your license was due for renewal? Why not?

Would you suggest I fly to Texas to renew it because of something totally beyond my control? It is not totally a position of not paying attention to what is happening, it is a culmination of circumstances which may not have afforded you an opportunity to get it done.

I can't manage your affairs for you, that is your responsibility. Three weeks is a very short time, compared to the time between license renewals these days. My license is due for renewal in 2013, and the last time was 2009. My medical comes due every two years, and is due again next year.

So the license in my state is good for 4 years. Getting to within 3 weeks of expiration is cutting it pretty close.

I guess maybe you work for the perfect company who has dispatchers who really give a damn about where you are in relation to where you can get a renewal.

As I said, I am far from perfect, and neither is my company. But they do the best that they can.

The company I drive for the dispatchers are not responsible for anything but dispatching loads and providing load related information to the drivers.

It is the safety department that keeps track of the driver's license, medical card, TWIC, and hazmat. And in the three years I have driven for this company, I have had my medical card and the long form in hand on the day that the safety director handed me the notice of the expiring medical card.

And before they give me the notice next year for my expiring license and medical card I will have them completed and ready to go.

All the years I worked at the power company the process was similar, although I never did figure out just what department actually kept track of that stuff and sent the notices to the employees with CDL's. It may have been employee resources, it may have been the safety department, I didn't really care, because I was always ready to go.

Again, if you are, you are in the same small minority. Unfortunately for the vast MAJORITY of us career truck drivers, we don't live in a perfect world and are forced to deal with what we can when we can.

Whatever.

 

[Mike]

Somebody read that last post and give me the cliffs notes for it please

 

[Racer X 69]

I wonder if a lot of drs offices will stop giving the dot physicals because they won't want to fool with having to enter all the info into the dot databases? Just curious.......

Many physicians have indeed stopped bothering with conducting DOT physicals because they have to be DOT certified to perform those physicals.

I had to find a new doctor this year for that, and a couple of other reasons. Really bummed me out. I had been seeing the same physician for over 15 years.

 

[Racer X 69]

Ain't I just a nice person?

Why you are just a peach there ma'am!

 

[Racer X 69]

Somebody read that last post and give me the cliffs notes for it please

Just wanna be clear.

 

[Ragged Rooster]

I did not. And you have failed to show where you say I did.



No I have not. I made one simple comment, about a very specific detail of your post.



Yes, you have said all this before, in other discussions, many times. I think we get it.

But this discussion is about forged medical cards (mostly), not about your license history and current status. (and I know this comment will bite me in the ass after another statement I will make a few lines down)
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Good for Texas.



When I renew my medical, it is at my doctor's office. Up until this upcoming change in the way it is processed, after the physician fills out the long form and the card, and takes a copy for their files, in my state the next step is for me to place the card in my wallet (I like to laminate it and keep it with my license), and provide my employer a copy of the long form. Then when I renew my license I show my medical card to the person at the DOL. (this process has changed a few times over the years, but the how and why is not relevant here)



Again, you have failed to show where I said such a thing.



I never, in over 30 years of having a Class A endorsement, and then the CDL, never, ever let such a thing "creep up on me". I have always accepted the responsibilities that accompany the driving privilege very seriously. Never have I failed to renew my license on time, never have I failed to schedule a physical in a timely manner, and never have I failed to renew any of the expiring items like hazmat or the TWIC.

I tested for, and received a license to operate a motor vehicle when I was 17 years old. When I was 19 I added the motorcycle endorsement. Before I turned 20 I had also added the "A" endorsement, as a condition of my employment as a truck mechanic apprentice at the electric utility where I worked for the majority of my adult life. When the Commercial Drivers License program began in the early 1990's, I tested for, and converted to that.

And throughout all of those years I have never, ever forgotten the importance of my obligations and responsibilities concerning my driving privilege. (as I said above, this may bit me in the ass, but, hey, you asked)



Nobody can make that claim.



Maybe so. Apparently far too many people do not recognize the importance of responsibility. Something that we are all suppose to learn about as we enter adulthood is taking responsibility for one's self, and one's affairs.



Really? You didn't know when your license was due for renewal? Why not?



I can't manage your affairs for you, that is your responsibility. Three weeks is a very short time, compared to the time between license renewals these days. My license is due for renewal in 2013, and the last time was 2009. My medical comes due every two years, and is due again next year.

So the license in my state is good for 4 years. Getting to within 3 weeks of expiration is cutting it pretty close.



As I said, I am far from perfect, and neither is my company. But they do the best that they can.

The company I drive for the dispatchers are not responsible for anything but dispatching loads and providing load related information to the drivers.

It is the safety department that keeps track of the driver's license, medical card, TWIC, and hazmat. And in the three years I have driven for this company, I have had my medical card and the long form in hand on the day that the safety director handed me the notice of the expiring medical card.

And before they give me the notice next year for my expiring license and medical card I will have them completed and ready to go.

All the years I worked at the power company the process was similar, although I never did figure out just what department actually kept track of that stuff and sent the notices to the employees with CDL's. It may have been employee resources, it may have been the safety department, I didn't really care, because I was always ready to go.



Whatever.

I then bow to you. You sir are PERFECT in every way. I've been trucking for 39 years. I have had my license expire on me. I have never had my medical expire on me except this last time when I PURPOSELY did not renew it because I don't need it right now.

I guess it must really be hard for a guy like you to be humble being so perfect and all.

I give up. I'm tired of arguing a point with you that you never did get the general jist of to begin with. I'm not quite certain how a person argues a point that they aren't even aware of without being led to by the nose, but you have a damn good knack of doing it no matter what the subject matter. If you remember, we went a couple of rounds on another thread where you did the same thing and argued a completely different point because you failed to read the ENTIRE post. I would have thought that you would have figured out what your problem is by now and found a remedial reading and comprehension course to rectify your error.

Guess I'll just put that on my wish list.

FINISHED!!!

 

[Racer X 69]

I then bow to you. You sir are PERFECT in every way.

Your words, not mine. As I said, I never claimed to be perfect.

I guess it must really be hard for a guy like you to be humble being so perfect and all.

Your words, not mine. As I said, I never claimed to be perfect. (wait! is there an echo in here?)

I give up. I'm tired of arguing a point with you that you never did get the general jist of to begin with.

You never go the point of my post. So we're even then.

I'm not quite certain how a person argues a point that they aren't even aware of without being led to by the nose, but you have a damn good knack of doing it no matter what the subject matter. If you remember, we went a couple of rounds on another thread where you did the same thing and argued a completely different point because you failed to read the ENTIRE post.

How is you you know that I did or did not read the entire post?

I would have thought that you would have figured out what your problem is by now and found a remedial reading and comprehension course to rectify your error.

Guess I'll just put that on my wish list.

Wish in one hand and spit in the other . . . .

FINISHED!!!

You still have not shown where I was:

. . . . . telling someone they don't know what the hell they're talking about!!!

And yet you feel the need to pass judgement on my reading and comprehension skills.

Now, I happen to know the Banty Rooster has an uncontrollable need to have the last word, whether he is right or wrong. He has this idea that getting the last word equals winning. Therefore, I am stepping out of the discussion at this point so he can have it and feel good about himself.

I know Injun, I should just shut up and let it be . . . .

 

[8978]

My doctor wasn't sure if he was going to keep doing DOT physicals. I wasn't paying much attention but I think he said something about multiple days of training which doesn't sound right. Anyways, he is allowed to charge anything he wants to do the physical so prices may go way up. I just got mine and it was $115

 

[Injun]

Yes, it will be multiple days of class for doctors who want to continue performing DOT physicals. This is supposed to standardize the physical so we don't have some people being made to do squats and crunches while others just get their knees tapped and a BP check. In a way, it's good this is happening. In another way, not so good because the numerous drivers who have skated the physical by finding a doctor willing to pencil whip the results will not be able to pass.

 

[8978]

I liked the part about turning your head from left to right. Never thought it made sense then paid attention to a fat friend of mine who turned his whole body when he needed to look to his right or left. I didn't say anything to him but really paid attention for a while and he never turned his head.

We went out for lunch and he drove. I realized he scooted over the seat to look for oncoming traffic. I know my mother couldn't turn her head when she was 80.

The nurse always has to get the bigger cuff for me for my BP check. She asked if I lifted weights. I was like, ya right, you see any other muscles. How about the 1 pack on my stomach? Told her I pull a flatbed and do tons of work with my arms, that's it.