For those with Omnitracs (Qualcom) elogs

[Duck]

Whatever it is, I'm sure it'll be oppressive & ridiculous and lawsuits will result in temporary injunctions and parts being suspended & re-written every 6 months.

 

[Mike]

That right there is why I have not jumped on this "bandwagon".


No one knows what the final ruling will be or the system requirements are for it. No one.

Even vdo, whom I'm most like to get, doesn't know.

Simple Affordable Electronic Logging Device / ELD - VDO RoadLog

I wouldn't either if I was you. Absolutely no reason to jump in early if you don't have to, and you will save plenty money by waiting.

The cost of these things will drop like a rock.

 

[Injun]

I've been thinking about this.

Best I can tell, none of these companies that are providing E-Logs know what will be in the final ruling once a mandate comes to pass.

Is is possible that wallyworld did this on their own, and just using "FMCSA" as an excuse?

I fully expect several little changes once the mandate comes down, just as I expect the market to be flooded with inexpensive logging options once manufacturers know what is going to be required.

Mike this came down with our meeting about Omnitracs and Navigo updates. They hold them monthly I think. It is Omnitracs being told this to meet whatever the final rule governing elogs looks like.

We found out from VP Safety East in an update message.

Like Tazz said, these are updates being done throughout QualComm/OmniTrac because one of the alphabet soup guv'mint agencies betched that QC was allowing falsification, seeing's the actual rule says driving time is any time spent at the controls in operation of the vehicle. Well, obviously, if the vehicle is moving, somebody is operating it and, according to the letter of the law, should be logged on the driving line. It's not just WalMart. Swift is feeling the pains in this too. If SNI has QC, they'll be doing the same thing.

 

[Mike]

we have them, but no word on coming changes. Schneider is pretty good about giving us plenty advance notice on things like this, which is why I was wondering if this was a qc wide thing, or simply a change being made at Walmart.

 

[Duck]

I just wish Qualcomm would update to modern technology.

The damn things are ridiculously slow & the touch screens are still primitive & inaccurate.

Touch screens are accurate and cheap now. There's one on my keurig machine fer cryin' out loud.

And why the hell should it take ten minutes to change duty status when I stop? I hit "change" then "off" then "ok". Three taps on the screen that should take 2 seconds but each screen takes like 30 seconds to load up.

It's like they're using used computers left over from 1985 to run them.

 

[Injun]

I just wish Qualcomm would update to modern technology.

The damn things are ridiculously slow & the touch screens are still primitive & inaccurate.

Touch screens are accurate and cheap now. There's one on my keurig machine fer cryin' out loud.

And why the hell should it take ten minutes to change duty status when I stop? I hit "change" then "off" then "ok". Three taps on the screen that should take 2 seconds but each screen takes like 30 seconds to load up.

It's like they're using used computers left over from 1985 to run them.

Your touch screen might need to be calibrated. I'd have to fiddle with mine to remember how to do that, but I do recall it being easy to do.

 

[Tazz]

Go to settings, then display, and then hit the calibrate button on the bottom right. I do it in every truck I get into. Takes about 30 seconds.

 

[Duck]

I've done it. Still not that accurate.

And sometimes I have to slam my fingertip down on it so hard I'm half expecting to break the screen before it even registers a tap. Or sometimes it WILL register the tap, but react so damn slowly that I don't think it detected it & I hit it again, only to launch it into something I don't want & then have to back out of it.

 

[Tazz]

I've done it. Still not that accurate.

And sometimes I have to slam my fingertip down on it so hard I'm half expecting to break the screen before it even registers a tap. Or sometimes it WILL register the tap, but react so damn slowly that I don't think it detected it & I hit it again, only to launch it into something I don't want & then have to back out of it.

Maybe a couple years of slamming instead of using a stylus has caused this?

 

[Injun]

Delete all the messages. Mine slows down when I haven't cleared it.

 

[Mike]

@Duck, that is a problem with your company. I have no issues like that from my qc. Never have.

 

[Rigjockey]

We use the quallcomm for our E-logs. I haven't heard of any changes coming.

 

[Duck]

I just went out to the truck so the night dispatcher can send my load information for tomorrow & had to stare at this stupid screen for 10 minutes.

It's like that every time.

The older ones would boot up in about 1 minute.

 

[Inkeper]

I just wish Qualcomm would update to modern technology.

The damn things are ridiculously slow & the touch screens are still primitive & inaccurate.

Touch screens are accurate and cheap now. There's one on my keurig machine fer cryin' out loud.

And why the hell should it take ten minutes to change duty status when I stop? I hit "change" then "off" then "ok". Three taps on the screen that should take 2 seconds but each screen takes like 30 seconds to load up.

It's like they're using used computers left over from 1985 to run them.

You have a bad head unit, the part with the keyboard and touchscreen. It will also slow down the reload process. It just takes a few minutes to replace it when you get back to the yard. I had one that was doing pretty much the same thing, wham bam thank you ma'm, replaced it and problem solved. Reloads in a few minutes or less and touch screen responds immediately.

 

[mndriver]

You have a bad head unit, the part with the keyboard and touchscreen. It will also slow down the reload process. It just takes a few minutes to replace it when you get back to the yard. I had one that was doing pretty much the same thing, wham bam thank you ma'm, replaced it and problem solved. Reloads in a few minutes or less and touch screen responds immediately.

Stop making sense.....

 

[Mike]

I just went out to the truck so the night dispatcher can send my load information for tomorrow & had to stare at this stupid screen for 10 minutes.

It's like that every time.

The older ones would boot up in about 1 minute.

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Mcp50? Really?

Does van wyk also have Windows 3.1 computers in their offices?

They need to spend a few bucks and update their technology.

 

[Duck]

You have a bad head unit, the part with the keyboard and touchscreen. It will also slow down the reload process. It just takes a few minutes to replace it when you get back to the yard. I had one that was doing pretty much the same thing, wham bam thank you ma'm, replaced it and problem solved. Reloads in a few minutes or less and touch screen responds immediately.

They're all like that.
And sometimes it does immediately recognize taps. Like when I'm typing a message. There's no keyboard. so I have to use the touch screen. The letters usually register immediately. It's buttons like "change" (duty status) that're slow.

Does van wyk also have Windows 3.1 computers in their offices?

Windows XP on at least one computer. I know this because I installed it myself like 75 years ago.


They've got at least some kind of modern technology though. The boss can access the e-log system from his phone somehow.

 

[Tazz]

Ah the rest of the story emerges. They are cheap and bought the smaller slower and bargain basement units.

 

[Mike]

There has been a change that the FMCSA has mandated for them to get approval under the new rule that will be published.

Always before when you would creep around you had certain thresholds that would trigger a switch to the driving line. It would switch at that point in time. However going forward it will back date the time to when our vehicle started moving.

As an example if you were easing around the truck stop on your 30 minute break and just getting to the entrance right as it switched over it would count the minutes you were moving and nullify the 30 minutes. In addition where as before some guys would go until it switched, stop change back to off duty and wait five minutes to move again (we got some strange crap at Titan Instituting elogs) that will no longer work because now when it switches it will include all the time you were moving and be uneditable.


Just a heads up for ya'll we got this week.

Ok @Tazz, I am officially blaming you.

We got the message today, and the updates will begin on our qualcomms 11/17.

Dirty bastards

 

[Tazz]

Don't blame the messenger Bubba, We report you decide