Electric Chicken
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Electronic Limping Device.I plan my day out so well, I schedule when I'm going to fall down.
Eld is really making my life suck
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StupidDriver
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I can’t plan my own loads and even if I could I would still prefer to be able to sleep and drive when I want to. I wouldn’t ever drive while tired and I don’t need dot/mommy/daddy to tell me when that is
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Uncle Birchy
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Sally Field was Forrest Gumps mommy..
ironpony
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That's not how it works, mostly because of guys driving illegally when the system was permissive, and getting into fatality accidents. The driving public apparently has a problem with that.
Uncle Birchy
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Accidents and Fatalities are actually UP since ELD...
Reason they concluded is that Electronic Logs forced more trucks on congested Urban roadways during "PEAK" Hours
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Duck
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Another factor is probably drivers being forced to run under an unnatural schedule. Just because a truck doesn't move for ten hours, dispatch thinks you just slept thar whole time and they plan accordingly. Last minute trailer swaps, you've got hours to fix someone else's fukup, and that guy gets the load you've already planned your next couple of days around. That kind of thing is what burned me out on the reefer business.
Electric Chicken
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Yeah I called off work quite a bit due to not being able to get to sleep on time for whatever reason.
Uncle Birchy
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I just stop n take lots of NAPS and be LATE..
After enough Screw Ups they know better than to run ya like that and adjust accordingly..
Or they can FIRE Me and I'll sit my happy ass at home on Unemployment
Duck
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Uncle Birchy
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Trucking Jobs are a Dime a Dozen and Carriers know competition is FIERCEAwesome work ethic there.
Secondly this Ain't like a regular job were ya can call the Temp Service have a new guy show up tommorow..
What I'm saying is a DRIVER has LEVERAGE with employment
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Duck
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And most of them pay that way too.
I looked into a local outfit, a farm supply outfit that delivers seed and picks up grain and brings it to the elevators.. All local, all rural, no Chicago bullshit. No logs I don't think, because it's agricultural and the 150 air mile rule would apply.
F*ing ten dollars an hour. That's what the guy said when I went in there. I thought he was bullshitting, I thought he was waiting for me to respond and then he was going to laugh and say "no it's actually XX amount, I was just messing with you". But no, he was serious.
I've never seen any of their drivers but I imagine they're all felons or have failed drug tests or something in their past.
This mess is really simple at this point. HOS was probably tough on a truck driver when they were adjusting to it... Back in the '30s.....
At this point, everyone is probably old enough at this point that if they are driving, they probably started under Hours Of Service rules. It was there before you started, so it's on you to know what you are getting into before you start.
Have they changed over time? yes. Enough to make a big difference? no.
If a carrier truly runs you in a way that you can't get rest, find another carrier. I've never been forced to drive when I felt like I couldn't. I never will be forced to drive to get a load picked up or delivered when I feel like I can't.
Sometimes, I may not sleep well at night. I might not be tired and stay up late. So what. Still gotta get up and go. Same goes for any office job. You might not be tired when you get home, and might end up staying up binging on Netflix. Still gotta be in the office at 0800 to do your job. Those bosses don't care if you are rested up either.
At this point, everyone is probably old enough at this point that if they are driving, they probably started under Hours Of Service rules. It was there before you started, so it's on you to know what you are getting into before you start.
Have they changed over time? yes. Enough to make a big difference? no.
If a carrier truly runs you in a way that you can't get rest, find another carrier. I've never been forced to drive when I felt like I couldn't. I never will be forced to drive to get a load picked up or delivered when I feel like I can't.
Sometimes, I may not sleep well at night. I might not be tired and stay up late. So what. Still gotta get up and go. Same goes for any office job. You might not be tired when you get home, and might end up staying up binging on Netflix. Still gotta be in the office at 0800 to do your job. Those bosses don't care if you are rested up either.
Electric Chicken
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I don't drive when I'm tired. I'm a mess at it. And my backing goes to shit. I don't have to be hop to perky but I can't pull an all nighter or anything and still be safe out there.
I could go to work pretty damn tired anywhere else and it didn't hurt anything.
Duck
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Nobody dies or goes to prison if you fall asleep in your cubicle though.
Depends on the job.
Duck
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Pretty much any safety sensitive job is going to have safety meetings where they ramble on about sleep and stuff though.
I can't think of too many jobs where you can screw up so badly from a desk that people die. Except maybe air traffic controllers.
Rigjockey
In Gord we trust!
One company I worked for hauling autoparts was bad for messing up your circadian rhythm. I would get back late at night and then take my 10 off and ready to go and they would play the call us back every 2 hours game until noon.
Then at noon they would dispatch me on a load leaving at midnight.
I have never been so happy to be fired from a company in my life!
Then at noon they would dispatch me on a load leaving at midnight.
I have never been so happy to be fired from a company in my life!
Let me clarify by saying "local non-driving job". Lots of things you could do where fatigue/inattention can kill others. And plenty of those are far more physically demanding and probably require more rest than a truck driver requires.
Rigjockey
In Gord we trust!
Like de-icing aircraft. You miss a spot of ice and it's a bad day.
Humble pie
What we have is a failure to communicate.
Whinny pissy truck drivers who complain about elds and how hard life is, are making my life suck. So I will say what everyone is thinking.
Shut up stupid!
Shut up stupid!
