Do You Like The New 34 Hour Restart Rule?


What I'm not sure of is if you can log EXACTLY 8 consecutive hours of driving, but not 8:01 or if you can only log 7:59 before taking 30 min.


Then you need to read the rule....It's very plainly stated.


Or....Just keep listening to "counter sitters" and you'll never know the truth.
 
What I'm not sure of is if you can log EXACTLY 8 consecutive hours of driving, but not 8:01 or if you can only log 7:59 before taking 30 min.

A driver must take a minimum of 30 minutes 'break' - off-duty or sleeper or combination - before 8 hours have passed - wall clock time - since the previous 30 minutes or more break.
A hazmat driver carrying Division 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3 explosives to allow them to count on-duty time spent attending the CMV, but doing no other on-duty work toward the required 30 minute break. This hazmat provision is effective as of 27 Feb 2012
 
So, I can do my pre-trip, Show 15 mins. Then log off duty for a half hour while I go and eat breakfast and I have satisfied the 30 min break requirement before 8 hours. No?
 
So, I can do my pre-trip, Show 15 mins. Then log off duty for a half hour while I go and eat breakfast and I have satisfied the 30 min break requirement before 8 hours. No?

No, not if you are going to drive 8 hours and 15 minutes or more. In your scenario you will still have up to 11 hours of driving. You can drive only eight hours before you need a 30 minute break.
 
It's a stupid rule, but why do truck drivers have to complicate everything? Just take a break between 3 and 8 hours of driving and you will be compliant. Sheesh!
 
"Truck drivers may not drive more than 11 hours resting for 30 minutes before continuing after 8 hours driving."

"What this means is after 8 hours of off duty time drivers need to take a 30 minute break that counts against your on duty time (14 hours) then may drive no more than 3 more hours within 14 hours time."

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So, which is it, before 8 hours, after 8 hours or exactly 8 hours?

FMCSA own website confuses the issue. You may think you have the answer, but when some dumbass DOT gets your log book, he may have a different answer.a_hours_of_service_rules.webp
 
Truck drivers may not drive more than 11 hours resting for 30 minutes before continuing after 8 hours driving.

What this means is after 8 hours of off duty time drivers need to take a 30 minute break that counts against your on duty time (14 hours) then may drive no more than 3 more hours within 14 hours time.

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So, which is it, before 8 hours, after 8 hours or exactly 8 hours?

FMCSA own website confuses the issue. You may think you have the answer, but when some dumbass DOT gets your log book, he may have a different answer.


Wow.

Is there a trophy for tying Gordian Knots?
 
Ridicule all you want, that seems to be all you are capable of.

The regulation states "before 8 hours" Since you can log in increments of 15 minutes that means 7 hours and 45 minutes. Not 8, since 8 is not before 8, it is at 8.

Try to tell me some Dudley won't slit hairs.
 
I know exactly what I wrote. The regulations says "before 8 hours." Explanations on FMCSA HOS website says "after 8 hours." So, which is it, before or after? Just wait until some driver is defending himself in court on whether he took his break before, on, or after 8 hours.
 
Chart thing says "May drive only if 8 hours or less have passed since end of driver's last off duty period of at least 30 minutes"

Well here's a :bonk: for whoever wrote that.

"8 hours or less"... so, what it it's been exactly 8 hours? You can still drive until it's been 8:01 hrs? Whatever Tim copied & pasted says "before 8 hours" meaning you can only drive 7:59 hrs.

It's not really something that's going to be an issue very often, ... we're talking about a one minute difference, but as long as the stupid, overpaid, worthless parasites at FMCSA are making up stupid-ass rules we have to follow, can't they be a little more clear about it?
 
You said:
"What this means is after 8 hours of off duty time drivers need to take a 30 minute break that counts against your on duty time (14 hours) then may drive no more than 3 more hours within 14 hours time."


The rule states:
May drive only if 8 hours or less have passed since the the end of the driver's last off-duty period of at least 30 minutes.

If you want to stay in compliance with this rule and you want to only take one break and run the full 11 hours, take a 30-minute break between having finished the third and beginning the eighth hours of driving.
 
No, not if you are going to drive 8 hours and 15 minutes or more. In your scenario you will still have up to 11 hours of driving. You can drive only eight hours before you need a 30 minute break.
Ok after reading your post and the following posts I understand why.
 
You said:



The rule states:


If you want to stay in compliance with this rule and you want to only take one break and run the full 11 hours, take a 30-minute break between having finished the third and beginning the eighth hours of driving.

In my example, which is taken from the FMCSA website, 8 hours of driving and you must take a 30 minute break, then you still have 3 hours on left on your 11 hours within 14 hours.

You can use any hours for your break so long as you don't drive more than 8 hours straight without a 30 minute break.

So, you are correct about those hours to take your break are between 3 hours and 8 hours, inclusive. Still, one must remember there are situations and jurisdictions where you can drive more than 11 hours, so you would have to time your 30 minute break differently.
 
FMCSA rules do not apply to intrastate carriers. Alaska drivers have a few different provisions, as do certain local drivers, under specific, special circumstances. The only time my guideline does not apply to interstate, property-carrying CMVs is under the emergency provision, which I have only ever seen used successfully once.

For the vast majority of truckers and for all steering wheel holders, take a break sometime after three hours but before eight hours of driving. It really is that simple.
 

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