Do You Like The New 34 Hour Restart Rule?
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Everyday... which is why gubmint is so messed up along with the people that continually send those that possess NONE of it back.
catalinaflyer
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HOS regulations are well on the way to being just like the Tax Code, the people tasked with enforcing the rules will not have a clue as to what is correct. Much like the IRS, call 10 different people at the IRS with a tax question and you'll get 10 different answers.
What I see is a financial gain for the enforcing agencies since the advent of the electronic logs has taken away a good share of that revenue stream. Probably not the intent of the new regulations but certainly going to be exploited by revenue strapped agencies. It's your word against his, his interpretation says your in violation, here's your citation, mail a certified check or money order to the court listed on the back or appear in person at the place and time noted on the front.
Oh and just because you do appear in person, convince the judge that your interpretation is correct and get the ticket dismissed you haven't won anything. YOU still have to jump through hoops that an NBA player can't reach in his best day to get the points removed from your CSA2010.
Safer highways BS! Going to put more good experienced drivers out of the business because their interpretation wasn't as good as the officers and the accumulating CSA2010 points will push the driver out of the business. Now we have to hire more new drivers simply because their CSA hasn't been destroyed yet so we loose veteran drivers and replace them with less experienced drivers. How is that safer??
What I see is a financial gain for the enforcing agencies since the advent of the electronic logs has taken away a good share of that revenue stream. Probably not the intent of the new regulations but certainly going to be exploited by revenue strapped agencies. It's your word against his, his interpretation says your in violation, here's your citation, mail a certified check or money order to the court listed on the back or appear in person at the place and time noted on the front.
Oh and just because you do appear in person, convince the judge that your interpretation is correct and get the ticket dismissed you haven't won anything. YOU still have to jump through hoops that an NBA player can't reach in his best day to get the points removed from your CSA2010.
Safer highways BS! Going to put more good experienced drivers out of the business because their interpretation wasn't as good as the officers and the accumulating CSA2010 points will push the driver out of the business. Now we have to hire more new drivers simply because their CSA hasn't been destroyed yet so we loose veteran drivers and replace them with less experienced drivers. How is that safer??
saddlesore
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will be just another excuse for more gubment intervention
Gittyup-n-go
Active Member
Tim
U.S.Constitution
NO! We take top billing because its a well known fact we kill many, many mini van loads of tax payers and future tax payers every day.
Sarcasm over
SaddleTramp
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I use the 34 in Cali. before headding back, so I can get back(no more the old way for me). That 30 min. break is easy to get at some of the LOVES/PILOTS.
Gittyup-n-go
Active Member
I do not have a problem with the 30 min. break, just when we have to take it. Like i said before my day is about over then.
Copperhead
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One thing to keep in mind with all the hollering over the 30 minute thing.... it was in response to the driver input at all those FMCSA "meet and greets" held around the country that drivers were invited to attend and voice their opinion. The FMCSA said as much. The safety groups had little input on the 30 minute thing. That was 80% attributed to what the drivers were complaining about. The safety groups were targeting the 11 hr driving, the 34 reset, etc. So, this is another case of "be careful what you ask for". Didn't get to put in your 2 cents worth at those "meet and greets"? They also had online commenting available. Didn't do that either? Then shut up. You are as much of the problem as anyone. There were ample opportunities to input comments on this. I submitted several comments on the HOS issue. Those that couldn't take 5 minutes out of their "busy" schedule to post a comment are as much to blame as any safety group.
SaddleTramp
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Like I said, I use it to get back from Cali. and the 30 min. break...fuel lines or grocery shopping, stretch my legs and walk around whatever.
WHERE? And why wasn't a linked provided here?
oh.. and Duck prolly has some input about how the gubmint now has YOUR number and it's listed under "whiners and complainers".
That's all good and fine Vance... using one is not the issue.
The issue is for those of us who may do 2 in a 7 day period where the 2nd 34 won't count.
Now some are gonna say something about the 8 days of logs... yeah. ok. But I've done the 34, left for San Antonio, got there and had to wait another 40 hours while the shipper gots their ship together before I run to Jersey which is 3 days and then another run back to Texas? Can't do it under the proposed rule cuz I'd be over if the 4o hours of sitting doesn't count as a reset.
DubbleD, Vance was addressing the 30-minute break within eight hours of driving, not the 34.
For those who are fussing about the 30-minute break, I personally think it's a good idea. It might prevent a few cases of DVT and urinary tract infections for those who think it's healthy to sit in the same position for 11 hours straight. Taking 30 minutes somewhere in the middle of your drive time should have only a very minimal effect...and it might be an encouragement for some of our lard-assed brothers and sisters to get up and move a little. Even if all they do is go to the refrigerator and make a sandwich.
For those who are fussing about the 30-minute break, I personally think it's a good idea. It might prevent a few cases of DVT and urinary tract infections for those who think it's healthy to sit in the same position for 11 hours straight. Taking 30 minutes somewhere in the middle of your drive time should have only a very minimal effect...and it might be an encouragement for some of our lard-assed brothers and sisters to get up and move a little. Even if all they do is go to the refrigerator and make a sandwich.
Rigjockey
In Gord we trust!
This should take care of the financial problems. Overnight drivers are screwed and everyone else will have to be off longer.
More drivers, More trucks on the road and more money spent in transportation costs I thought prices on consumer goods where high now.
Gittyup-n-go
Active Member
In the middle of the 11 is fine, i have a problem with it being after 8 hrs.
Duck
Sarcastic remark goes here
I think it just says you can't log any period of driving more than 8 hours without having a 30 minute break. You can drive 5 hours, take 30 min, then drive the other 6 hours.
MysticTrucker
Active Member
I start CDL school at my local community college next month. Which I think means that I will end up learning the old way...then going to my company and operating under the old way just long enough to kind of understand the old way...and then shift to the NEW way. This ought to make my first month's log, um, "interesting."
He addressed both. I was commenting on his use of the 34. The 30 really doesn't bother me much, I just move my bike riding time up instead of after but there are a few drives that require every minute available.
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