Another bad day in Orlando


I don't know Patty, I am sure they have wolves where you live. Have you ever seen a sign warning people about the wolves?
Seeing a wolfe once or twice a year isn't reason enough to put up signs.Even though anyone that vacations in Florida should be fully aware gators are everywhere after seeing the many billboards advertising soveniers and such as well as every store and gas station has gator things for sell but anyplace that has gators wild animals should have warning signs.
 
I don't know Patty, I am sure they have wolves where you live. Have you ever seen a sign warning people about the wolves?
I've been seeing coyotes more lately. In fact I hit one with the truck in Kansas City a few weeks ago, and almost hit one the other night.

As I'm typing this at home I can hear them howling outside.

I've only been up close to a live one once when I wasn't in a vehicle. I was riding my ATV through tall grass by the creek & spooked one that was probably sleeping. It was a big one, the size of a wolf. Probably the product of cross-breeding with a malamute or something. It jumped up right next to me and ran. I tried to chase it but it out-maneuvered me. Can't stop on a dime & make a zero radius 90° turn on an ATV but a canine can.

My neighbor killed a deer with his dirt bike once. Or he said he did. There were no crops in the fields. He said he chased it til it dropped.

I guess a deer, if chased, will keep running at top speed until it's heart gives out. It won't slow down when it gets tired. Like the dog in the movie "Stone Fox".
 
I bet the keys have gator signs all over.
....and?

It's common sense. There are a gazillion TV shows about the SouthEast, rednecks in the SouthEast, critters in the SouthEast and now, we're hearing about the SouthEast all over the news. Who the hell doesn't know there are alligators in the SouthEast?

At some point, people have to take responsibility for their own stupidity. This is a tragic event. I really feel bad for this family and horrible for that little boy. He had to have been absolutely terrified in his last moments. It really, really sucks.

But this family allowed that little boy to play in the water in an area where, if there's water, there's going to be at least one gator. Living in Nebraska, they should know that most wild animals feed most actively right around dawn and dusk. This applies almost universally across the board. They allowed the boy into the water in a clearly posted "no swimming" area. (Yeh, I know somebody posted he wasn't in the water. I'm going off all of the news outlets that are saying the boy was wading in the water...which is most of them.) Some will say he wasn't swimming, he was wading. In my definition, in context of the posted warning, being in the water splashing around is the same as swimming. The gators obviously don't know or care about the difference.

There are swimming pools at every single resort in Florida. I can't imagine this high-end place being any different. They want to let the baby play in the water, there are areas specifically designed for it, that won't have wildlife in them.

What's it going to take? Fences with concertina wired with signs hanging on them saying, "Stay the fuck out of the water, you moron!" ...is that what it takes? How about some common fucking sense?

Pisses me off to no end, when people interact with wildlife and something bad happens because the wild animal acts like a wild animal... and ends up paying the price for being what it is and doing what it does as a natural result of being a wild animal.


There are rest areas here that have seagulls hanging around begging all the time. There are a shitload of signs that say, "Do not feed seagulls." and, "Feeding seagulls makes them aggressive." People don't give a fuck. Every time I stop at one of these rest areas, there's some adult showing the kiddos how to feed the fucking seagulls. Someone points out a clearly posted sign, they're told to mind their own business. If a seagull pecks one of the kids, the adult is all like, "That mean old seagull! Need to kill the seagull! Why didn't anybody tell me? If the seagulls are mean, they need to be killed!"

We had a tsunami warning on the coast. We evacuated the area. Or...tried to, anyway. Visitors from foreign countries didn't hesitate to drop everything and clear out when they understood what was going on. American residents, who'd been there for years stood on their decks with binoculars and cameras, waving us on. People from inland were lined up for miles getting to the coast to see. The low-lying beach areas were packed with cars and people who'd left their homes and deliberately gone there to "watch the tsunami."

My point? Personal responsibility does not exist. Common sense does not exist. People are incredibly stupid. You can't fix that. This alligator attack is case in point of people lacking personal responsibility and common sense.

well the everglades might have those signs but seeing the florida keys are islands in the ocean you wont find many gaters there
they could import salt water crocs from Oz thou
We have our own salt water crocodiles.
 
....and?

It's common sense. There are a gazillion TV shows about the SouthEast, rednecks in the SouthEast, critters in the SouthEast and now, we're hearing about the SouthEast all over the news. Who the hell doesn't know there are alligators in the SouthEast?

At some point, people have to take responsibility for their own stupidity. This is a tragic event. I really feel bad for this family and horrible for that little boy. He had to have been absolutely terrified in his last moments. It really, really sucks.

But this family allowed that little boy to play in the water in an area where, if there's water, there's going to be at least one gator. Living in Nebraska, they should know that most wild animals feed most actively right around dawn and dusk. This applies almost universally across the board. They allowed the boy into the water in a clearly posted "no swimming" area. (Yeh, I know somebody posted he wasn't in the water. I'm going off all of the news outlets thalsying the boy was wading in the water...which is most of them.) Some will say he wasn't swimming, he was wading. In my definition, in context of the posted warning, being in the water splashing around is the same as swimming. The gators obviously don't know or care about the difference.

There are swimming pools at every single resort in Florida. I can't imagine this high-end place being any different. They want to let the baby play in the water, there are areas specifically designed for it, that won't have wildlife in them.

What's it going to take? Fences with concertina wired with signs hanging on them saying, "Stay the **** out of the water, you moron!" ...is that what it takes? How about some common ****ing sense?

Pisses me off to no end, when people interact with wildlife and something bad happens because the wild animal acts like a wild animal... and ends up paying the price for being what it is and doing what it does as a natural result of being a wild animal.


There are rest areas here that have seagulls hanging around begging all the time. There are a ****load of signs that say, "Do not feed seagulls." and, "Feeding seagulls makes them aggressive." People don't give a ****. Every time I stop at one of these rest areas, there's some adult showing the kiddos how to feed the ****ing seagulls. Someone points out a clearly posted sign, they're told to mind their own business. If a seagull pecks one of the kids, the adult is all like, "That mean old seagull! Need to kill the seagull! Why didn't anybody tell me? If the seagulls are mean, they need to be killed!"

We had a tsunami warning on the coast. We evacuated the area. Or...tried to, anyway. Visitors from foreign countries didn't hesitate to drop everything and clear out when they understood what was going on. American residents, who'd been there for years stood on their decks with binoculars and cameras, waving us on. People from inland were lined up for miles getting to the coast to see. The low-lying beach areas were packed with cars and people who'd left their homes and deliberately gone there to "watch the tsunami."

My point? Personal responsibility does not exist. Common sense does not exist. People are incredibly stupid. You can't fix that. This alligator attack is case in point of people lacking personal responsibility and common sense.


We have our own salt water crocodiles.
No swimming signs means just that,you do not go in the water at all .Here along the river there's no swimming signs all over and ppl obey the signs and also says strong currents.Disney should have had other signs posted like Aligators have been spotted.This is clearly the family's fault.But I'm saying Disney needs to be more aggressive in warning ppl of the dangers and why wasn't the kids in bed.This happened 9:30 at night.
 
No swimming signs means just that,you do not go in the water at all .Here along the river there's no swimming signs all over and ppl obey the signs and also says strong currents.Disney should have had other signs posted like Aligators have been spotted.This is clearly the family's fault.But I'm saying Disney needs to be more aggressive in warning ppl of the dangers and why wasn't the kids in bed.This happened 9:30 at night.
Signs and warnings don't work. Should we hang a sign on every tree in the NorthWest that says, "There are bears, wolves and mountain lions here," or should people just understand they'll be there?

Ask any of your neighbors what Florida has. The top three will most likely be "Disney World" "Beaches/Spring Break" and "Alligators."

Common sense and personal responsibility.
 
Signs and warnings don't work. Should we hang a sign on every tree in the NorthWest that says, "There are bears, wolves and mountain lions here," or should people just understand they'll be there?

Ask any of your neighbors what Florida has. The top three will most likely be "Disney World" "Beaches/Spring Break" and "Alligators."

Common sense and personal responsibility.
Disney the happiest place on earth folks don't think there would be gators lurking on the grounds.
 
I suppose this was rather insightful....

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Sounds like they been playin' Dangerous Maneatin' Lizard Roulette with the guests (bait) at Disney World Inc. fer awhile...

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