Vaping like a skinny jeans wearing, man bun sporting, beard having, murse carrying hipster tool.
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Sinister
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You can vape at Zero nicotine.
You didn't do your research before you started, you have nobody to blame but yourself.
nuggsy
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This is true. Not sure why anyone would want to inhale straight chemicals without nicotine, but to each his own. I guess it always comes back to boredom.
uh !so vaping mist/ air without nicotine, whats the point ?
wouldn't it be like putting your lips to a fan or humidifier or going to a oxygen bar an sucking on some air ?
my 2 cents is that vaping is nothing more than a fad for those people that are brainwashed into thinking its healthier/ not unhealthy than smoking a cig, for the yuppy youngsters that think its cool and for the old time smokers that don't have the will to quit smoking but think its a way to stop smoking - its all a lie !
IMO if you want to quit smoking, you should be able to do within 3 months or less (aside from those that can do cold turkey) and that's stop/ween/start/stop/ween/etc.... phases . don't fool yourself thinking vaping is not smoking.
" do it under cover ...in chemical places "
so that means you're smoking in places you're not to be smoking !
real smart !
I've smoked several years & I understand the crave but if you cant hold out for 30-45 mins to leave site and have a smoke, you have some serious issues.
I understand the chance of ignition of vapors is slim on the ground (depending on location of you and vapors) but the chance is still there, there are rules to be followed around chemicals and vapors that can ignite, why be stupid ?
why risk losing your job because you wanted a smoke since you couldn't wait another 30 mins to leave the area before having the smoke.
I'm not 100% familiar with vaping though I assume theres a battery in it ? correct ?
for some reason I doubt that vapor cig is not class 1 div 2, which means its approved for hazardous locations.
not allowed to use cell phones outside in certain locations, even certain standard flashlights are not acceptable.
both of those items do not meet class 1 div. 2 standards for hazardous locations.
most locations its not an issue, though rules are there to prevent any kind of accident - so no cell phones outside of vehicle or building.
some of it is over kill and will not have any reaction to the fumes, though at the same time theres rules set in place for a reason to prevent any ignitions of fumes.
so why risk your life or your job just because you're craving a smoke or using your cell phone !
Sinister
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It's not smoking.
There is zero chance of ignition of volatile, and obviously I'm not going to do anything if I'm wallowing in volatile petroleum fumes, except vacate the area, because that isn't supposed to happen either. I think your understanding of "stupid" is a little off, and perhaps a bit of self reflection is in order, considering...
You understand nothing, and are against vaping in order to be pro-smoking like most of the anti-vaping people in this thread...which is in fact, pretty fucking stupid.
I'm pro-[if it makss you happy and ain't hurting anybody, let's everybody mind our own fucking biznuss.]
Blood
Driveler Emeritus
A lot of the anti-smoking hype is exactly that, hype [IMO].
Some may be more susceptible but I think they would succumb to other factors as well.
My grandfather smoked until he was cut down at the tender age of 89.
He wasn't in a nursing home either...
he was cutting firewood a few days previous.
My mom started work at the age of 14...
I mean for a living, not a summer job.
My parents owned a bar through most of my formitive years back in the days when the smoke was so thick you could barely see.
Mom passed at 85 years old...
never spent a single day in a nursing home.
Buddy's g'ma smoked until she was like 90-some...
got so old she started forgetting she smoked and lived to be 101.
Buddy is adamently against smoking and big as a house...
about three years after lap-band surgery.
Smoking ain't smart but it isn't the demon that most make it out to be.
That being said, I realize some find it extremely offensive and I don't believe in subjecting people to such distress against their will but banning smoking in a privately owned business is complete bullshit . If I open a diner or bar and wish to allow smoking it ought to be MY business and the business of those who CHOOSE to patronize me [or not].
F'n hand-wringers are ruining this society and this issue illustrates the mentality perfectly.
Why can't we all just get along?
When I open 'Smokers Match' you could just move in next door and open 'Safe Space'.
Each of us could exploit the others detractors...
like good Americans ought to.
BTW;
Deja vu all over again.
We had the same argument shortly after I got here.
You were a mod then [or shortly after] and I figured I'd be banned within a few weeks.
I am missing a stick. ( probably a hockey stick) Has anyone seen it? I have looked everywhere. Maybe it is up someones ass.
I don't play hockey, maybe you misplaced it with closet gay tendencies
your quote !
One advantage to vaping is that I can do it undercover...incognito like at these chemical places. Haven't been thrown out of one yet...
that means you're not supposed to be smoking, open flames, any ignition items to ignite fumes, liquids, etc...
if its ok to vape why do you need to even hide the fact you're vaping at a chemical place ?
if its all ok then theres no need to hide at all !
each job & location is different, like I meantioned earlier - the chance of an ignition is slim on most but theres still the chance = rules & laws around hazardous material !
surrounded by fumes for short time & get upwind til they subside or within in close range is an everyday thing for me.
& you hear of electric spark ignitions that happen with fumes, not flames....electric spark !
really ?
I'm not against vaping, I just find it a fad that hippsters follow the trend or weak willed people that cant stop smoking think its a way to stop only to find out its all a lie.
why don't you take a step back an look at the big picture !
nicotine in real cig's & vaping ...correct ?
so tell me how is it not smoking ?
your comeback.....theres no chemicals & smoke.
guess what, chew has no smoke either = cancer...theres 100% tobacco smokes too w/o chemicals though strangely they still produce cancer in people.
A lot of the anti-smoking hype is exactly that, hype [IMO].
Some may be more susceptible but I think they would succumb to other factors as well.
My grandfather smoked until he was cut down at the tender age of 89.
He wasn't in a nursing home either...
he was cutting firewood a few days previous.
My mom started work at the age of 14...
I mean for a living, not a summer job.
My parents owned a bar through most of my formitive years back in the days when the smoke was so thick you could barely see.
Mom passed at 85 years old...
never spent a single day in a nursing home.
Buddy's g'ma smoked until she was like 90-some...
got so old she started forgetting she smoked and lived to be 101.
Buddy is adamently against smoking and big as a house...
about three years after lap-band surgery.
Smoking ain't smart but it isn't the demon that most make it out to be.
That being said, I realize some find it extremely offensive and I don't believe in subjecting people to such distress against their will but banning smoking in a privately owned business is complete bullshit . If I open a diner or bar and wish to allow smoking it ought to be MY business and the business of those who CHOOSE to patronize me [or not].
F'n hand-wringers are ruining this society and this issue illustrates the mentality perfectly.
Why can't we all just get along?
When I open 'Smokers Match' you could just move in next door and open 'Safe Space'.
Each of us could exploit the others detractors...
like good Americans ought to.
BTW;
Deja vu all over again.
We had the same argument shortly after I got here.
You were a mod then [or shortly after] and I figured I'd be banned within a few weeks.
there are some select few that can smoke &/or drink their whole life an be unaffected by smoke/drink until late in their life like 60 + or until the bitter end of their life into the 80's & die of something else, that's because of their genes !!!!
they got lucky, some people are immune to some things or it affects them less than the normal person, while the average person dies many years before them with the same lifestyle.
I'd say its a 50/50 thing - 50% in your genes ! if you die young or old & 50% in your lifestyle when you die.
so don't talk all proud that your relative lived to 80+ yrs, that don't mean shit...you could be dead tomorrow from a heart attack.
while a kid is battling for his life at the tender age of 10 yrs old or younger from cancer & never touched a smoke or a drink !
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Sinister
pari animositate
Hindsight is 20/20!!!
Shoulda coulda woulda!!!!
@Squach213 agrees about the private business thing too. We talked about it on lots of bridge beams jobs last year.
I think the fact that it affects other people outweighs that, but I get where you're coming from, and in many cases you're probably right...but I'm not gonna tell you that and let your head get all big...
Tazz
Infidel
Business' should be able to choose. Public places should be smoke and vape free (parks, public museums, rest areas etc etc). They should also be alcohol free, dope free, idiot fr.....well that is unenforceable.
At Walmart vaping is treated just like smoking just based off the nuisance factor. We have smoking and non-smoking trucks. Vaping in a smoking truck (if your caught) is the exact same step as lighting up a cig. Same goes for an associate vaping inside a store.
At Walmart vaping is treated just like smoking just based off the nuisance factor. We have smoking and non-smoking trucks. Vaping in a smoking truck (if your caught) is the exact same step as lighting up a cig. Same goes for an associate vaping inside a store.
Duck
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Making fun of people who "vape" is a better application of my time than what I usually do.
Geez. Well I smoked for 30 years. Coughed all the time and smelled like smoke. My family hated it. If you call me weak willed for not quitting. Think about this. The addiction has been proven that cigarettes are more addictive then heroin! I vape yes it dose have nicotine but it dose not have the other 2000 harmful chemicals found in cigarette. Nicotine while addictive is benign and has the same qualities as caffeine. For those who doubt look it up.
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