Swift Transportation

[patriciajnsn]

I'm glad you're giving trucking another chance.Not everycompany out there is like Werner or Swift.I think those 2 companies and a couple more have the highest turnover rate in the industry.Just when u get angry don't fly off the handle,talk to somebody that can resolve the issue.It's going to be a long hard road for you the first yr but believe me it does get awhole lot better with exp.

Sorry for the second post, but I wanted to respond to this but forgot to multiquote it .

I want to give trucking another try right now. One reason is I have a CDL school bill that I should not have, and I refuse to pay it unless I am driving semis. But like I mentioned, I think I burned my bridges with Swift after my correspondance with them. Not to mention my posts here (which any CEO or exec could be reading), which I do not retract and I fully stand by.

But whether it be Schneider, PAM, US Express - whoever calls me first - I'm there for the year.

This just may take a LOT of time. The economy is still crap, and jobs are still being lost.

 

[Racer X 69]

You do realize you're discussing Werner in the Swift thread. Granted, the only difference between the two is the colour of the trucks, but, this thread is exclusively for Swift bashing.

What? This isn't the Werner thread? Holy crap Batman! Oh my God! They killed Kenny! Those bastards!

Shoot, I got so immersed in the dialog I failed to notice which room I was in. I guess next time I should look more clearly at the restroom door.

Thanks for the heads up 2xR.

Oh, and by the way, are you sure you are a Tarheel? I mean you spelled color the way they do in Canada, Australia and England. Colour?

 

[2xR]

Oh, and by the way, are you sure you are a Tarheel? I mean you spelled color the way they do in Canada, Australia and England. Colour?

Well now... ain't you the clever one, taking note of how folks spell their words?

Could be, I'm a rotten speller, and, since colour is actually a word, albeit Old World, my spell-checker let it fly.

Could be, I spend so much time in New England, I'm starting to think and act like one (shoot me).

Could be, I ain't tellin'....

 

[Racer X 69]

Well now... ain't you the clever one, taking note of how folks spell their words?

Could be, I'm a rotten speller, and, since colour is actually a word, albeit Old World, my spell-checker let it fly.

Could be, I spend so much time in New England, I'm starting to think and act like one (shoot me).

Could be, I ain't tellin'....

roflmao!

 

[driver007]

COME ON NOW RACER,,THERE ARE GOOD WEEKS OF 3000 MILES,,BUT A ROOKIE WONT GET THAT,,JUST 2000 AVERAGE,,IF YOUR IN YOUR FIRST YEAR GETTING 3000,,YOUR A LUCKY MAN RUNNING WHERE NO TRAFFIC,,NO WAITING FOR PICK-UP DELIVERIES,,

2500-2700 MILES IS MORE LIKE IT,,3000 IS STEEP IN H.O.S. THAT WE HAVE,,,JUST DON'T ADD UP MAN..

 

[Sean McQuaid]

Mark in seans defense,we had alot to to with him going on and on about swift and what he went thru.We post something and all hes doing is answering it.

With all the hatred in our past, the defense is appreciated. And yes, all I was doing was answering to posts. No where near as much complaining, and I even gave credit where credit was due with Swift and the trainers I had with Swift. I had no real issues with the Swift experience through my training.

So the post you are defending me on is not worth my time addressing.

Maybe I'll be with PAM, Schneider, US Express - or whomever sometime soon. All I can do is keep trying every so often. And hopefully my dues are now paid in full and I will be allowed to work in relative peace.

 

[Sean McQuaid]

COME ON NOW RACER,,THERE ARE GOOD WEEKS OF 3000 MILES,,BUT A ROOKIE WONT GET THAT,,JUST 2000 AVERAGE,,IF YOUR IN YOUR FIRST YEAR GETTING 3000,,YOUR A LUCKY MAN RUNNING WHERE NO TRAFFIC,,NO WAITING FOR PICK-UP DELIVERIES,,

2500-2700 MILES IS MORE LIKE IT,,3000 IS STEEP IN H.O.S. THAT WE HAVE,,,JUST DON'T ADD UP MAN..

I'm tired and neglected to multiquote again - sorry.

I don't know about Swift, the company I won't discuss on this thread anymore did run me 3,000+ more than once. And this was before I had a couple of months with my truck.

And yes, my H.O.S. was super tight, and I had an overall average of about 50 MPH average speed (60 hours driving time). I was forced to log line 1 when I really was on line 4 to save on my 70, and each time I broke 3,000 miles, I had to do a 34.

If I made it to getting my truck with Swift, and they would have given me at most 2,000 or so a week, that would have made my acclimating to the profession a lot easier . I am sorry it did not work out for me - I'd have over a year in, and maybe still with them. Or driving for someone else.

 

[greybeard]

COME ON NOW RACER,,THERE ARE GOOD WEEKS OF 3000 MILES,,BUT A ROOKIE WONT GET THAT,,JUST 2000 AVERAGE,,IF YOUR IN YOUR FIRST YEAR GETTING 3000,,YOUR A LUCKY MAN RUNNING WHERE NO TRAFFIC,,NO WAITING FOR PICK-UP DELIVERIES,,

2500-2700 MILES IS MORE LIKE IT,,3000 IS STEEP IN H.O.S. THAT WE HAVE,,,JUST DON'T ADD UP MAN..

Don't know about anyone else, but I have run 3500 mile weeks legally.

 

[patriciajnsn]

Don't know about anyone else, but I have run 3500 mile weeks legally.

Sure u can run that legally if u have a fast trk and no brks I spose.My company gives me as many miles. as I can handle.They'd give me 4k a week if I wanted but I told them to slow down a bit,im getting around 2500 to 2800 a week.That's plenty for me.

 

[patriciajnsn]

LMAOOOO

What? This isn't the Werner thread? Holy crap Batman! Oh my God! They killed Kenny! Those bastards!

Shoot, I got so immersed in the dialog I failed to notice which room I was in. I guess next time I should look more clearly at the restroom door.

Thanks for the heads up 2xR.

Oh, and by the way, are you sure you are a Tarheel? I mean you spelled color the way they do in Canada, Australia and England. Colour?

 

[patriciajnsn]

I spoke to some swiftties at truckstops and many are'nt even getting that.I don't blame the economy,I blame that company for hireing too many drivers.

COME ON NOW RACER,,THERE ARE GOOD WEEKS OF 3000 MILES,,BUT A ROOKIE WONT GET THAT,,JUST 2000 AVERAGE,,IF YOUR IN YOUR FIRST YEAR GETTING 3000,,YOUR A LUCKY MAN RUNNING WHERE NO TRAFFIC,,NO WAITING FOR PICK-UP DELIVERIES,,

2500-2700 MILES IS MORE LIKE IT,,3000 IS STEEP IN H.O.S. THAT WE HAVE,,,JUST DON'T ADD UP MAN..

 

[snowflake]

What? This isn't the Werner thread? Holy crap Batman! Oh my God! They killed Kenny! Those bastards!

Shoot, I got so immersed in the dialog I failed to notice which room I was in. I guess next time I should look more clearly at the restroom door.

Thanks for the heads up 2xR.

Oh, and by the way, are you sure you are a Tarheel? I mean you spelled color the way they do in Canada, Australia and England. Colour?

oh so that was you at the Bosselmans out at Kerney.....boy you got outta there in a hurry rotfl
and what about the BR at Quick Trip in St Louis remember they used to be on one side and they remodled and swapped them......

Don't know about anyone else, but I have run 3500 mile weeks legally.

exactly GB...ok do the math @60mph it take 42 hrs (legally most state not taking int acct the 70 mph states) to go 2500 miles so whatcha'll do with yer free time???? a truck that will ONLY do 50/mph will do this in 50 hrs......

KEEP THE DOOR SHUT! helps.......

 

[patriciajnsn]

Of course u can do that legally,but how many companies are consistant in miles?Not many.

 

[patriciajnsn]

If companies like Swift and many others would quit hiring a hundred plus drivers every week and give those miles to the drivers that r already there then they could get 3500 miles a week without a problem.But unfortunately they don't.They give em short runs like 300 miles or less so theres where you burn up hrs waiting to get unloaded.Thank god my company gives me good runs unless I am low on my 70 then they'll give me short runs usually 500 miles.But otherwise my runs are never below 700 during the week.But that's the advantage of driving for a small company,very little sitting,they know u by your voice not some stupid trk number and loads are very plentiful.You get to these big starter companies,you will be sitting.

 

[Sean McQuaid]

When I ran the big miles the few times I did with the other company, it was just a shade under 3,000 by their thinking and their pay (we all know you actually run 10 to 20 percent more miles than what they pay you for - the D.O.T. knows this). On the hub (True and real miles), my best week was right around 3,300 (got paid for 2,800). Different companies have different speed limits (at least the big bad starter companies anyway). If the speed limit is 60 MPH, or you are lucky enough to be out in the middle of nowhere all the time and be able to average 60 MPH all week (which is how I did the 3,000), you have to drive 60 hours to do 3,000. Even for those who only log a total of 15 to 30 minutes a day on line 4, you are still getting real close to redlining your H.O.S.. Frankly, I think 3,000 to 3,500 miles a week every week is pushing too hard, and sooner or later it's gonna catch up with the driver either by violating H.O.S., or a D.O.T. officer looking at you funny when he sees all the miles driven - the hub doesn't lie, and the hub reading is logged no matter what the company pays you for. 2,500 to 3,000 a week is more realistic to me allowing for traffic and urban areas. That's still 100,000 to 150,000 a year (if you average this every week that is, and I know a driver could get 2,000 one week and 3,000 the next).

Only my humble opinion.

 

[patriciajnsn]

I agree with u there3000 to 3500 is too much,at least for me it is.I could get that but I told Tracy to keep me 2500 to 2800 a week.Companies such as swift and Werner pay I think from city to city not for the actual miles although they should.Heck they pay slave prison wages as it is.My company pays from zip code to zipcode.

When I ran the big miles the few times I did with the other company, it was just a shade under 3,000 by their thinking and their pay (we all know you actually run 10 to 20 percent more miles than what they pay you for - the D.O.T. knows this). On the hub (True and real miles), my best week was right around 3,300 (got paid for 2,800). Different companies have different speed limits (at least the big bad starter companies anyway). If the speed limit is 60 MPH, or you are lucky enough to be out in the middle of nowhere all the time and be able to average 60 MPH all week (which is how I did the 3,000), you have to drive 60 hours to do 3,000. Even for those who only log a total of 15 to 30 minutes a day on line 4, you are still getting real close to redlining your H.O.S.. Frankly, I think 3,000 to 3,500 miles a week every week is pushing too hard, and sooner or later it's gonna catch up with the driver either by violating H.O.S., or a D.O.T. officer looking at you funny when he sees all the miles driven - the hub doesn't lie, and the hub reading is logged no matter what the company pays you for. 2,500 to 3,000 a week is more realistic to me allowing for traffic and urban areas. That's still 100,000 to 150,000 a year (if you average this every week that is, and I know a driver could get 2,000 one week and 3,000 the next).

Only my humble opinion.

 

[Sean McQuaid]

I agree with u there3000 to 3500 is too much,at least for me it is.I could get that but I told Tracy to keep me 2500 to 2800 a week.Companies such as swift and Werner pay I think from city to city not for the actual miles although they should.Heck they pay slave prison wages as it is.My company pays from zip code to zipcode.

When I was with Swift, they payed by the miles; the miles as they liked to calculate it that is - these companies would have you on every dirt road they could to have the least miles possible which in the long run would take you longer to drive than the interstates ROFL. That other company you mention (zipped lips) payed me by the mile (again - the way they figure it and the route). Could be different now for all I know - been outta there 9 months now.

 

[driver007]

Yea I agree 3000 miles are do-able,,what I'm trying to say is that in a normal 3 to 4 deliveries per week you will get aprox. 2500 to 2800 miles per week,,,like PATTY said tell me what company has steady freight??

That's why I mentioned rookies get 2000 per week AVERAGE....and I agree why hire so many new drivers when there are plenty not getting enough miles as it is,,,well the answer to that is that we are anticipating a pick up in freight and need to be ready when time comes around,,this will be in oct-sept,,keep an eye on manufacturing,,that's what gets us moving,,,anyway,,PATTY,,2700 miles at a good rate is good and safe.

You guys be legal and don't show D.O.T. them big miles because trust me they are not dumb like in the old days,,these guys are college graduates or at least have been trained to question miles in excess of 2800,,they go thru intensive training by VETERAN DRIVERS who know every trick out there to be known and these younger D.O.T. offficers are real bad ass M.FKRS,,,I've been there and back,,those of you that don't use line 1,,shit that's like telling them go ahead and screw me,,,and they will.

DRIVER 007......Sean,, your finally making some sense dude.

 

[patriciajnsn]

I could never figure out why companies hire more drivers then freight.I would think they'd have a les turnover rate if they'd just give the drivers the miles.They give em a ld then deliver then what happens they're sitting hrs waiting for the next ld.The planners should be on top of that.My company already has a ld waiting for me long be4 I deliver the previous ld.

Yea I agree 3000 miles are do-able,,what I'm trying to say is that in a normal 3 to 4 deliveries per week you will get aprox. 2500 to 2800 miles per week,,,like PATTY said tell me what company has steady freight??Like i've said a few times,I could get 3000 plus miles a week but if i'm sitting a couple hrs or longer to get loaded or unloaded I don't wanna have to run all nite to make up for lost miles if that makes any since.

That's why I mentioned rookies get 2000 per week AVERAGE....and I agree why hire so many new drivers when there are plenty not getting enough miles as it is,,,well the answer to that is that we are anticipating a pick up in freight and need to be ready when time comes around,,this will be in oct-sept,,keep an eye on manufacturing,,that's what gets us moving,,,anyway,,PATTY,,2700 miles at a good rate is good and safe.

You guys be legal and don't show D.O.T. them big miles because trust me they are not dumb like in the old days,,these guys are college graduates or at least have been trained to question miles in excess of 2800,,they go thru intensive training by VETERAN DRIVERS who know every trick out there to be known and these younger D.O.T. offficers are real bad ass M.FKRS,,,I've been there and back,,those of you that don't use line 1,,shit that's like telling them go ahead and screw me,,,and they will.

DRIVER 007......Sean,, your finally making some sense dude.

 

[patriciajnsn]

Yea I agree 3000 miles are do-able,,what I'm trying to say is that in a normal 3 to 4 deliveries per week you will get aprox. 2500 to 2800 miles per week,,,like PATTY said tell me what company has steady freight??

That's why I mentioned rookies get 2000 per week AVERAGE....and I agree why hire so many new drivers when there are plenty not getting enough miles as it is,,,well the answer to that is that we are anticipating a pick up in freight and need to be ready when time comes around,,this will be in oct-sept,,keep an eye on manufacturing,,that's what gets us moving,,,anyway,,PATTY,,2700 miles at a good rate is good and safe.

You guys be legal and don't show D.O.T. them big miles because trust me they are not dumb like in the old days,,these guys are college graduates or at least have been trained to question miles in excess of 2800,,they go thru intensive training by VETERAN DRIVERS who know every trick out there to be known and these younger D.O.T. offficers are real bad ass M.FKRS,,,I've been there and back,,those of you that don't use line 1,,shit that's like telling them go ahead and screw me,,,and they will.

DRIVER 007......Sean,, your finally making some sense dude.

I could get 3000 miles plus a week but sometimes im sitting an hr or longer waiting to get loaded and unloaded,I don't wanna have to drive all nite to make up for those lost miles if that makes any since.Now driving for a company that continually makes those drivers sit,I would go nuts and did for 3 yrs.