Senators Introduce Trucking Workforce Legislation For Under 21 Drivers
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Electric Chicken
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Pump as many people through as they do and get bargains and bulk pricing and it gets surprisingly cheap when broken down per person.
No it's not free but it's a lot less expensive than paying driver A say, $10,000 a year more than 10 driver Bs over 10 years for the same work because driver A is maxed on pay and B is entry level. If you keep driver A for 10 years and he's 10k above a new guy per annum, he's costing you $100,000 more than 10 new drivers that came and went in a year each and never made it to a pay raise.
Not to mention that 401k that doesn't vest until you get 3 years in and gets more and more expensive to match. You don't have to match it if they don't stick around long enough for it to vest but you have to keep contributing if he stays.
IOW for a mega, the more guys they have making the minimum, they better off they are because of scale and castrating everyone to the same performance with governors and nannies.
No it's not free but it's a lot less expensive than paying driver A say, $10,000 a year more than 10 driver Bs over 10 years for the same work because driver A is maxed on pay and B is entry level. If you keep driver A for 10 years and he's 10k above a new guy per annum, he's costing you $100,000 more than 10 new drivers that came and went in a year each and never made it to a pay raise.
Not to mention that 401k that doesn't vest until you get 3 years in and gets more and more expensive to match. You don't have to match it if they don't stick around long enough for it to vest but you have to keep contributing if he stays.
IOW for a mega, the more guys they have making the minimum, they better off they are because of scale and castrating everyone to the same performance with governors and nannies.
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Humble pie
What we have is a failure to communicate.
It’s far more cheaper to retain a good driver than to keep churning. Not just initial hire, but productivity, reduced equipment damage, less freight claims, less down time due to new hire training and placement.
Exactly, and the Megan’s realize that as well.
Electric Chicken
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Not really for these huge ones. Schneider and everyone else has nannies in the truck that hinder productivity to where everyone is equal, unless someone is truly f-ing off. They have zero down time for driver training and placement.
Mid size and smaller is a whole different deal.
I truly believe they push out many senior drivers in favor of new people for lower numbers (each department gets a budget and bonuses for coming in lower) and payroll & maintenance are the easiest targets.
They would only need enough senior guys for the newsletter to make it look like a great place to apply. Yeah they have newsletters.
The only reason to offer raises is to get people to apply. If you're offering a shit rate and never go up from that, nobody will work for you in the first place.
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Rigjockey
In Gord we trust!
The trucking industry has a hard enough time retaining young folks in the industry as it is for various reasons, too much time away from home, too much sacrifice for the reward and now it is suggested that the new entrants be paid less? That ain't going to work out to well. There is not even the incentive of making big money with the hidden effort that it takes to make the big money, so why would the youth even waste their time and money to get trained in an occupation that would net them less than minimum wage?
Maybe McDonalds and Burger King outta advertise, Home every night! Family oriented and consistent pay.
Maybe McDonalds and Burger King outta advertise, Home every night! Family oriented and consistent pay.
Electric Chicken
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Weekly settlements!The trucking industry has a hard enough time retaining young folks in the industry as it is for various reasons, too much time away from home, too much sacrifice for the reward and now it is suggested that the new entrants be paid less? That ain't going to work out to well. There is not even the incentive of making big money with the hidden effort that it takes to make the big money, so why would the youth even waste their time and money to get trained in an occupation that would net them less than minimum wage?
Maybe McDonalds and Burger King outta advertise, Home every night! Family oriented and consistent pay.
Seriously though some of these warehouses are starting to catch up to trucking pay. $20/hr + overtime to push shit around with a forklift doesn't sound too bad sometimes.
Rigjockey
In Gord we trust!
I know you're right!
Some forklift guys make more than I do. Plus they don't have to deal with idiots on the road. They have full-time access to a washroom anytime of the day.
They get a lunch break and two other breaks everyday! Every
single day, WTF is that all about?
Electric Chicken
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Gettin' kinda sad.I know you're right!
Some forklift guys make more than I do. Plus they don't have to deal with idiots on the road. They have full-time access to a washroom anytime of the day.
They get a lunch break and two other breaks everyday! Every
single day, WTF is that all about?
Not that it's great money but the hassles out here on the road are making that differential hard to be worthwhile.
Duck
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They have to deal with incredibly stupid truck drivers who barely speak English and show up in their OSHA regulated workplace wearing flip flops, asking where the bathroom is so they can go smear feces on the toilet seat.I know you're right!
Some forklift guys make more than I do. Plus they don't have to deal with idiots on the road. They have full-time access to a washroom anytime of the day.
They get a lunch break and two other breaks everyday! Every
single day, WTF is that all about?
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