One Battle At A Time...."Prioritize"
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BANDIT
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issed:It isn't about how many oil fields there are here in the US, or making OPEC pump more oil out of the ground to put on the market, it's about getting the damn oil companies to reinvest some of their hundreds of billions in profit in upgrading the old refineries, and building new refineries (possibly on old closed-down military bases) that can refine the capacity of gas & diesel needed by the people of this country at a decent and affordable price. We all know about all the oil that is in the ground waiting to be pumped. It doesn't matter if you pump it out of the ground by the boat load if you can't turn it into gas or diesel. Why do you think most of the oil gets sent to foreign countries.....They have the upgraded and new refineries...Stop worrying about how much oil is in the ground and start attacking the oil companies about re-investing the exorbitant profits like we initially planned with the BIG NATIONWIDE BOYCOTT. It seems that ya'll are flying in all kinds of different directions again. What happened to One Battle At A Time.....The Oil Companies are HUGE......The Government is HUGE.....you can't fight them both at the same time and win....pick one and fight that one and win.......Then go after the other if they still feel the need to fight after seeing the first one lose. Think about it everyone, and lets all get back on track instead of running in all different directions......I'm not saying that some of you don't have great ideas and I'm not saying they don't need to be done, just that you need to "Prioritize". How much do you really believe your gov. reps. are going to do against the oil companies when most or all of them have a big fat portfolio full of Oil Stocks? Half of the people I talk to on the street about a boycott of oil companies tell me, "Why would I want to hurt the oil company, I have stock in them?" These are just citizens like you and I. If they are hesitant in going after the oil companies, do you think your rich representatives are going to be anxious to. Just stop for a moment and think about these things. If you think I'm wrong, continue on as you are going. If you realize that I might be right, let's get back on track to our initial Battle and start building it BIG & STRONG so we can win it. Ya'll Have An Awesome Day!!
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freightmaster
'Deo vindice
Sorry Bandit , but the problem is NOT the oil companies not reinvesting.impo The problem is the World Bank and World Trade Organization set the price of a barrel of oil and our government is complacent in the conspiracy! We have people hell bent on the collapse of this nation!
BANDIT
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Our Government "IS THE CONSPIRACY":wtf::banghead:
SilverSurfer
Old School'd
Sorry Freightmaster...but you may not be entirely correct here. Fuel prices at the pump increased this last week while oil prices stalled - as reported in the associated press today. Refineries are a major reason pump prices continue to rise...influenced only by the speculative oil market. The world supply of oil is far from short. The refinery capacity is the bottle-neck, and until this issue is dealt with, oil price will only be a cost factor involved with the pricing of fuel. Big oil is capitalizing on this with huge capital returns on their refinery investments.
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freightmaster
'Deo vindice
I understand and respect your point of view but when we (you and I) are looking through smoke and mirrors things tend to get distorted.
Let me ask you this, next will be a food shortage so what will be responsible for the shortage and high prices that follow?
I say the same bunch I stated earlier! I'm not saying I'm right, but I have had my truck parked since June 2005 and have been very busy studying this nations state of affairs.
I urge you to visit this site as it does show how we are being manipulated.
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SilverSurfer
Old School'd
Don't get me wrong. I agree that these parties are the major players causing our current economic circumstance...and it's obvious it doesn't stop here. But I was taught by my father, and I firmly believe, that a man can not be manipulated when he so chooses to not be. Now, with that said, the majority of citizens are allowing themselves to be manipulated because they do not pay attention to what's going on. To reconize the many levels of manipulation is not an easy thing to accept. And, also, to reconize the many levels of manipulation allows a man to combat each seperate issue. To take on the elitists before exposing the different issues for what they are is an extremely difficult challenge. The proof of this statement is to only look about and see the entities already trying to do this. But to destroy each issue within itself is battles which can be won.
People are at a point in their lives where their attention can be captivated. But to overwhelm them with the complete truth will only push them away. They will not be willing to accept the reality that they have been manipulated their whole life. So...by identifying the path to victory with each issue is the way to win the battle. And the path to victory on the fuel price issue is as I have stated. During the fight to get that circumstance under control is the time to educate people regarding other issues needing attention.
Dammitt...I didn't mean to get on a soapbox. I'm sure you understand where I'm coming from. We're on the same side of the fence...I've just taken some time to evaluate how to get through to the everyday joe without losing his attention. I guess you could actually see it as a pride thing. I just placed myself in a position of someone explaining to me that I have been fooled my whole life...not an easy thing to digest.
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People are at a point in their lives where their attention can be captivated. But to overwhelm them with the complete truth will only push them away. They will not be willing to accept the reality that they have been manipulated their whole life. So...by identifying the path to victory with each issue is the way to win the battle. And the path to victory on the fuel price issue is as I have stated. During the fight to get that circumstance under control is the time to educate people regarding other issues needing attention.
Dammitt...I didn't mean to get on a soapbox. I'm sure you understand where I'm coming from. We're on the same side of the fence...I've just taken some time to evaluate how to get through to the everyday joe without losing his attention. I guess you could actually see it as a pride thing. I just placed myself in a position of someone explaining to me that I have been fooled my whole life...not an easy thing to digest.
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freightmaster
'Deo vindice
Well said my friend.
yellowbird2525
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I am emails today re new oil fields in Alberta Canada & to invest in them from newsmax; however "not meaning to" from what I read elsewhere after this was brought to Congress's attention; supposedly some treaty claimed they could not ship to USA; (horse pucky); FOLKS: hear me well: if you prioritize we will fall; the reason: i belong to many groups; get emails; attend meetings; even Calif Committee to stabilize Population; while getting You all to focus on 1 thing: the gas: they (Congress) put an amendment on to the Iraq war bill funding to legalize $1.3 million illegals; this does not count the millions Bush working with Clinton's & Dem's to get citizenship papers (counterfeit) have never gone thru citizenship path; I got the emails & responded; our VETS get the shaft; & you don't even realize it; aren't there to help protest; not standing with; the world is to small; if we won't stand with the folks to stop immigrants; expect the NAU; which is what all of this is all about; Geraldo was on Jay Leno show promoting his book Hispanic; several weeks ago; he clearly stated immigrants will not stop coming; & "they" haven't decided yet whether blacks or browns get the roofing jobs;
truckers2unite
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well said fred couldn't have said it better myself
yes we are becoming an organization with free membership we need to grow and get stronger and stronger so we can get things done
remember there is POWER IN NUMBERS!!!!
we will soon have membership cards and hats and t-shirts so come sign up at www.truckersandcitizensunited.net and keep your eye on us for when we get the organization up and running
thanks
Mark
yellowbird2525
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The Gov & the Oil Companies work hand in hand is the problem; that is the reason it is called Corp America; because the Gov moves to the tune of the large Corp's; THEY dictate what gets done; Proof: NAU; Clinton goes to Mexico; speaks to Pres there; suddenly Corp's from USA there; flooding land with extremely cheap corn which is the main commodity in Mexico; causing the farmers to lose their homes, and lands; THIS is the land OUR GOV so strongly wants US to think is part of the USA; "you stole our land"; the map put out by Absolut showing Mexico as being the majority of the USA; READ HISTORY folks! Mexico had their Constitution; and Article 25 spelled out ONLY citizens could own the land & they had water rights; the Mexican people, the ones here for years that got amnesty are treated like US citizens; only 15% of them when injured on job get workmans comp; they are extremely bitter & angry & hate Clinton & Bush for stealing their land; they are now engaged in a Civil War which I learned from Newsmax; but it certainly isn't on OUR news cuz that is owned by Large Corp's & censored to what the Gov wants on it; SEE THE CONNECTION? Our news says its a drug war; we gave $500m to Mexico for it; it is NOT drug war; it is Civil War cuz they failed to honor the Constitution; I told them it was our Gov & CORPS who work with them; go after the right people not the US citizens; our Gov is way out of line as well;
yellowbird2525
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speaking of which: our Gov is busy changing the internet; supbeon (whatever) the archives; only learned of it on PBS; one place challenged it when brought by FBI & won in court with the help of the ACLU; however they wondered how many other archives were simply handed over; scroll to the end of the item you are looking at; if recently updated it has been changed by the shrub; you can close your ears to the truth, but that does not make the truth stop speaking; the American citizens paid $ to Mexico for the land years ago, part of Texas & N Mexico; just because you choose to ignore the facts or take what they tell you as truth; Good Lord; they were breastfed on lies & deceit & deception & their bedtime story was "how to make anyone believe anything"; now we country folks KNOW what horse pucky is; they can dry it; reshape it; gold plate it; put it under lock & key with guards; trying HARD to make us believe it is something; but we take a look at it & nod & say horse pucky! For you city folk, it would be doggie doo!
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The Capitalist War Cry has always been "Supply & Demand" We lower supply, we raise demand.
BANDIT
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Hey Ya'll,,,I'm still not feeling up to par, but I'm here for a little while anyway. I got out today and went to the doctor and wound up getting totally disgusted by what I saw. Gas here went to $3.89 a gal. up from $3.79 yesterday and diesel to $4.65 a gal., up from $4.49 yesterday. We still need this boycott, and we need it Right Now. However, this is not going to be enough or soon enough to help us at the rate the oil companies are stealing from us. If they keep going at the rate they are now going, the boycott won't be a fast enough to mean anything before we all go under. We need the boycott, but we need something Strong, and We Need It NOW!!! At the rate they are raising fuel prices they will easily break all of us long before a boycott even bothers them. I don't know if we can even move fast enough to stop what they are doing, without the majority of people in this country saying we've had enough and just plain STOP....Stop and Stay Home. We all know that isn't going to happen, so where does this all leave us? My local news hasn't even mentioned the fact that gas and diesel jumped as much as it did today. It's like nobody cares anymore. We just fill up and pay the price, whatever it is. What they did have on the news was a whole segment on "The Art Of Dumpster Diving". Can you believe that? They are showing the people how to steal food from a grocery store dumpster. What the hell has this damn country come to? What the hell is wrong with the people of these United States Of America? It's no wonder I'm sick.....all this is enough to make anyone sick. There is a report on the national news RIGHT NOW about truckers using drugs to KEEP GOING.....not about truckers going broke because of high fuel prices.....DANGEROUS TRUCKERS ON DRUGS !!!!!........Welcome to the USA, Home Of The Naieve and Land Of The Bankrupt.....Does the Government own and control the mass media? I really don't know if we can do anything fast enough to stop all of this or even slow it down, but I know we have to at least give it our best shot.....No one else seems to give a shit about anything anymore. Has anyone come up with any poster/flyer samples? I have homemade signs in my yard and on my vehicles, but something a little nicer would be more effective I think. I'll try to be here as much as I can tonight, it may be off and on, but I'll do my best. I don't think there is such a thing as an Awesome Day anymore.....so I'm not even going to say it.
I've got a sign.
I put one together last night, but can't figure how to get it on the thread. Somewhere on the website ( The Forum is getting so cludered it's getting harder to find your way around) I came up to the idea of having members copy the sign and having Kinko's enlarge it to any size they want it ... large enough to cover the back end of simi trailer, or small enough to put in a car window.
I put one together last night, but can't figure how to get it on the thread. Somewhere on the website ( The Forum is getting so cludered it's getting harder to find your way around) I came up to the idea of having members copy the sign and having Kinko's enlarge it to any size they want it ... large enough to cover the back end of simi trailer, or small enough to put in a car window.
yellowbird2525
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on news tonight the oil company pres were there "supposedly" to address why oil prices so high (in Congress); in 2005 Diane Fernstein said & I quit listening; in 2005 the 4 oil companies profitted $4b each in 3 months; taken to Congress for price gouging Congress did NOTHING allowing it to continue the whole year thru & then on thru 2006; & the rest is history; in 2002 by the way, the oil companies made so much profit they didn't even know where to put all the $; they CERTAINLY did not give it back to the citizens; the way Congress & Corps work together: guarenteed $2.99 for 36 months; NOTHING will be done; because it is SET UP & CONDONED by Congress & Corp's folks; we have to learn to be as crafty & deceiptive as they are; if we THINK they will do something when they will not; we are done; THIS is the FRAUD they want to keep perpetrating; listen: this is how is works in Washington: health insurance; you are covered until you get ill; then, if it effects the PROFITS of the insurance company; they DO NOT have to pay; even if you are paying & in the contract you are covered; per FEDERAL LAW: by Congress: THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY & don't; it is FRAUD; every day in every way in every aspect; bottom line: like the Iraq's say of this SAME TYPE of Gov set up there: with Corp's in on it there as well: it was better under Hussain than this; the Congress people get lots of $; their friends & families on payroll (just like here folks) & Corp's get it all; & the people get taxed which they never had before & USA was NEVER set up for the people to be taxed folks; & their gas has gone from 55 cents to fill their tanks to $1.35 a gallon; they say it is dictatorship with the problems of graft & corruption being worse than under Hussain; OUR Gov perfers to call it "dysfunctional"; it is CRIMINAL in every aspect of the way. It is FRAUD in every sense of the way.
freightmaster
'Deo vindice
Hasn't anyone even been paying attention to what I have been saying?:headscratch:
BANDIT
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You've said quite a bit on a number of threads, which are you asking about? I've read just about every post on the entire forum, and I'm finding quite a few to be redundant. And all seem to be getting very lengthy. I think we need to start cutting back on the length a bit, including myself. It's getting to the point that everyone is starting to write short stories on almost every thread. It takes half the night just to read most of them. We appreciate all the input, just try to shorten them up a bit.
freightmaster
'Deo vindice
BANDIT
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No damn body left me in charge. I don't want to be in charge of a damn thing freightmaster. I only said what "The Man In Charge", BullWinkle, said weeks ago. When everyone starts posting their "small books" the thread gets closed. I don't want to see that happen if it is an informative thread. If you feel like I'm taking charge, maybe it's time for you to step up and get off your ass in front of your computer and YOU get out there and do something to change this mess. So far all I've seen you doing is researching different info on your computer about how corrupt our government is and what a bunch of assholes the oil execs. are. I think we all know this already, and now we're at the point that we need help doing something about it. Here's an idea, Why don't you stand up and take charge, and maybe you can motivate everyone and get this thing going so we all don't wind up in the shitter. I was off of here sick in bed for a few days, and I didn't see you get a damn thing done but sit here and bitch about how awful our government was. Stop Bitching and do something about it for Christs sake. I'm about to the point where I'm just going to go away and ya'll can do this shit. If that's what everyone thinks and wants, all you have to do is say so, and I'm gone. :banghead:
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