Miles with Werner
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Tn. Truckers Wife
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I sure wished you had been around back then...I did everything I could think of to prepare for the case...I worried about the clause from the very beginning but the attorney's weren't too concerned about it...
Wow, starting to sound like that wouldn't have done much good. They were either very naive or just figured that the company would settle out of court for some money. those lawyers don't put clauses in there just to waste ink and paper.
I don't think it has much to do with seeing how thickskinned someone is for trucking. I think it has more to do with the trucking companies have gotten away with this type of treatment towards their drivers for so many years. It is difficult to stand up to them when they have the big money and you need your job. They know that. Sean try to find a smaller company that will work with you on your experience. They are few and far between but they are out there.
It is difficult when a company is feeding you poop and telling you to like it! It doesn't mean that driving truck isn't for you, it means that you need to find a better company.
It is difficult when a company is feeding you poop and telling you to like it! It doesn't mean that driving truck isn't for you, it means that you need to find a better company.
Tn. Truckers Wife
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Well said boot's...
patriciajnsn
Steering Wheel Holder
Oh my goodness u actually agree with me! im shocked think ill print this and frame it when i get home lol just messen with ya larry lol
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Sean McQuaid
Whiny baby
This is one area where you are WRONG. I am not too SOFT for the industry. If anything, I am too hard. There is a fine line between being a fool/sucker and taken advantage of, and having to deal with the usual/normal B.S. in trucking. I will not deal with what I don't have to for so little. I DO NOT want everything my way, but I also don't want the un-necessary nonsense just because we are in a bad economy, and these trash companies want to get as much subsidy money as they can before the Government gets wise to what they are doing and cut it iff. They are screweing over people an screweing up lives. That's wrong. All it takes is ANY kind of termination on a DAC for just about ANY COMPANY to pass you up. And these trash starter companies are screwing people by terminating them for stupid and made up reasons, and that's what screws you. So your misinterpretations and ideas of me are what bothers me. I take people like Larry who agree with you with a grain of salt because they are young, not even wet behind the ears, and just wanna be "Billy Big Riggers".
Likie I said, I did not get on this forum to make enemies, get into debates with any know it all road warriors (or wanna be's), be pissed off or abrasive with anyone - etc.. I am here to tell from a first hand perspective what does happen as it happened to me, where those working for some years have no first hand experience of the industry on the entry level these days. I am here to tell those looking to drive for the first time that the reasons are very good that they will be ruined, and I gave the examples of why as they happened to me. To tell that even if they kiss A$$, they will probably be forced out anyway. And to tell even a good attitude will not matter (it didn't for me). It's all because of the creation of jobs that don't exist so these starter companies can keep lining their accounts with money they are not getting in freight now. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I AM HERE!!!!!!!!! Whether or not I am right or too soft for trucking is not for you or anyone else to decide - YOU PEOPLE DON'T IN ANY WAY KNOW ME.
Sean McQuaid
Whiny baby
Werner's electronic logging SUCKS. Puts you on duty status lines you should not be on too much. Example: puts you on line 4 when you are driving just because you are stuck in traffic or a traffic light. I quit the daily log corrections on that stupid system. They wanted it, they can deal with it since it was said it was supposed to make things easier for the driver. What BUNK. It was to not have people going over paper logs in the office. Those stupid log corrections are just as time consuming as doing paper logs. Werner is NOT one of the most legal companies in the industry. And if all I make is 300 a week going by the book, then so be it. With all that is going on in the industry now, I'll be damned if I will set myself up for any type of violation whatsoever - and I am not only talking of the petty issues of when I can be on line 4 and when not. And yeah, I knew Werner had paperless logging before I started there. But I did not know how screwed up it was. I should have followed my instincts and told Driver Solutions NO when they set me up with Werner. But I was a newbie thinking I probably had no other options
Sean McQuaid
Whiny baby
You hit the nail on the head. These companies do what they do because of too many who accept it and lump the problem because they have no where else to go. And I know of any court thing I'd want to pursue would be futile because of loopholes in the contract. I only do it to be a royal pain in the butt with these trash companies for as long as I can.
Sean McQuaid
Whiny baby
In some ways, I am letting it go because what is done is done, and will not be undone. As I have said umteen times, I am here to let any new or perspective driver know who reads these threads what has happened, and that they have a strong possibility of not making 6 months in this industry these days. So in that sense, I am NOT letting it go.
Sean McQuaid
Whiny baby
Yes, this is well said. And I am sure there is a scant few good companies out there. Trick is getting in BEFORE some trash company screwed up your DAC because (especially now) no one really wants to hire a driver with a termination on a DAC for whatever reason it is there. As they tell you in school and orientation "KEEP YOU RECORD CLEAN". And it is not easy to keep your record clean unless you quit a company who is clearly screwing you. My approach in toughing it out and fighting is not the answer. But I did not deserve a termination either. I am also sure a very scant few find another company after falling through the cracks of stupidity and abuse (even with a termination on their DAC). But that's extreme good luck, timing and location.
Sean McQuaid
Whiny baby
"Constructive criticism"?!?! The criticism has NOT been CONSTRUCTIVE because you keep repeating the same thing through your misinterpretations of what I say. You keep telling me that the un-necessary and unfair B.S. has to be taken just because everyone else takes it - even when the line is crossed by the companies. If so, then the industry is far too stupid for me, and in that sense, it truly is not for me. Yet, I will do it only to pay for the CDL as I will not pay for it with any other job. What good is a CDL I can't use? And I see it as a rip off because these schools and job placers know what is going o in the industry - yet tell unsuspecting applicants trucking is doing well. The problem lies in that too many have gone into trucking because they have no where else to go, take the abuse they know is wrong because they have no where else to go, and the companies keep dishing it out and adding to it every chance they get. It's as much the fault of the drivers, as the trash that runs these companies, that the industry is the way it is.
I definately wasted far too much positive energy when all I wanted to do is address those looking to drive for the first time - to tell it like it really is before others get screwed.
patriciajnsn
Steering Wheel Holder
What i mean by constructive critism is when ppl gove u alittle piece of advice u cant take it graceously u get all bent out of shape so ill leave it at that and wont discuss this any further happy trucken
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Sean McQuaid
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I can't take impossibly stupid things graciously. Telling me that just because just about everybody takes this or that B.S., and bends this rule or that rule. And that to drive, we all have to do it with a smile - or just do it - even if it means getting cited. I won't go the extra mile for any company that does not care about me or my CDL (and that pretty much accounts for all of them). They just care about themselves and their money. That and the fact that driving is made more a pain in the ass than it has to be because of too many who allow it is what makes this not for me, and nothing else. As for the line 4 thing: that would have only meant a 34 hour reset once a week or every other week; and ONLY if I used up my 14 hour clock everyday. Well, too bad. If I wanted to work 80 or 90 hours a week (which I say technically you are logging line 1 as much as the company wants you to), I would not have chose trucking. Rather I'd have gotten 2 minimum wage jobs and done just as well. Staying off line 4 is only so the company can work you more. Drivers are not allowed to drive 20+ hours straight anymore, so ways are taught to cheat on logs. Fine for drivers who want to pretend they are on their own time, but not for me. My time is mine when I am home, gone somewhere to eat or shower - etc.. Then I am on line 1
Thank GOD we are done debating. Happy trucking to you, be safe, keep the motoring public safe, and save on that 70 hour for the company.
It's obviously Sean you wasn't cut out for the trucking lifestyle. I waited to say anything until now but yet you still keep rambling on about Werner this and Swift that. Get over it we all know they screw people over, but some people get "lucky" and they like it there. It's called "Corporate America"! You don't think these big fortune 500 companies don't try that same crap? Think again they do! The problem today is people are afraid to speak out but from what I gather from you is you seem to complain and drag on the issue. Instead just get out there and beat the street and find a small to medium sized carrier to hire you which I believe was suggested on numerous occasions. I'm sorry to sound harsh! Besides how are we suppose to speak out of you can't get two drivers to agree on what day it is? Until something is done or truck drivers get together (seems like a majority of company drivers don't give a shit) nothing will change!
Sean McQuaid
Whiny baby
Come on Larry, give me a break. The only thing that makes the trucking lifestyle not for me is the B.S. that does not need to, and should not exist - period. People seem to want to twist it into other things as not being for me.
As for Werner and Swift this and that. Kept going over it for those who did not seem to want to uderstand what I was talking about. It was originally only intended to be one long post of all my experiences with both companies to warn NEWBIES ONLY of what does happen, and can easily happen to them. It was not intended to be a Princeton Debating society with any Billy or Becky Big Rigger veterins. It just turned out that way.
Been "beating the street" for another carrier. It's no longer as easy as some of you think it is.
I apologize for coming off harsh and I do want to wish you the best of luck man.
Sean McQuaid
Whiny baby
Patronizing is almost as good as agreeing from folks. Appreciated just the same. Good luck to you as well when you get in the rig, and keep yourself and all others safe.
lightingboy
Active Member
I have to agree with larry on this.u think u got a lot of bs think again go to puerto rico where I am from and have been trucking all my life.its part of the usa and we got the stupid d.o.t to but u got no hours of service,u get a flat tire and u don't fix it u don't work till u do,u truck breaks down find out what broke so the boss can buy it and u fix it.the broker did not do the ppw for ur load u have to do it or u don't run.work 23 hour days sleep 1 hour and get up and do it all over.I do agree with u that there is a lot of bs but u always have a choice find a way around it and make it work for u.they tried some of the things they did to u with me and I called my lawyer and asked for advice and then I got on the phone with safety and driver relations and talk to them and got most of the things resolved and yes I did have to put up with some bs.there is some sort of bs any where u go that's life.also its going to be very had to run 100% legal in this economy u will have to bend a rules here and there a little bc of the nature of the industries and every com cuting there rates just to get the loads.this can be for u and u can make it work u just need to find a way to make it work for u.good luck
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