Let's Argue About Motorcycles

[Racer X 69]

Ok you win. But harley has been racing bikes since the beginning. And that KZ1000 is fugley!

TruckingBiker

OK. So the KZ 1000 has dated styling and looks.

The Hyabusa is much better.

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And this one doesn't have one of the Village People sitting on it.

Here are some numbers.

The Hayabusa has been used in sanctioned closed course road racing, drag racing, and top speed competition.

Top speeds of over 270 mph, engine outputs of over 700 horsepower, and performances in the standing quarter mile as quick as 7.125 seconds and as fast as 209.14 mph have been recorded by street registered Hayabusa motorcycles using standard-width (190mm) DOT-approved street-legal rear tires.

The Harley-Davidson XR750 has been produced and used primarily for flat track racing, but also for road racing (in the XRTT variant) since 1970.

The engines had the following numbers:

Engine: 748cc (45.6c.i.) air cooled V-twin, 2 ~ 36 mm Mikuni carburetors

Bore/Stroke: 79 x 76 mm (3.1 x 3.0 in.)

Power: (estimated) 70 ~ 100 hp (52 ~ 75 kW)

The design of the V-twin does not lend itself well to the road racing environment, but Eric Buell has done his best to try and fit it into the world stage for bike racing

The Buell road race bikes have always intrigued me. Ever since I saw my first Buell cafe style bike at Cycle Craft HD in Boston, Mass. I have wanted one. That was way back in 1992. I was in Boston for a project my employer and I were working on and I took a walk, and saw one sitting in the window of the bike shop. I went in and inquired about it, and then the price was $12,000. A lot of dough at the time.

Today, a bike like this will set you back almost $40,000. My pickup didn't cost that much!

Here is the latest offering, a 2011 1190RS Superbike:
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This newest offering from Buell is stepping away from HD, the engine is a converted Rotax engine. I suppose that the folks in Milwaukee will wish they had never let Eric Buell get away.

As for the drivetrain, the 1190RS will feature converted Rotax motors from the 1,125 cc displacement it once had to a more powerful 1,190 cc. This drivetrain also includes 106mm forged pistons, titanium valves, race cams, and forged and machined connecting rods, among other things. All told, the 1190RS is expected to be a lightweight superbike with an output of around 170 horsepower, which is right around the neighborhood of the Ducati 1198R. The company is hopeful in releasing the first batch of these street-legal superbikes at a base price of $39,995 sometime this month.


With the impending release of the Buell Racing 1190RS, expect a steady stream of interest for the superbike, one that should have the execs over at Harley-Davidson shaking their heads and thinking what could have been.

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[Racer X 69]

Re: Increased levels of enforcement, and where...

I don't like looking at my tach and seeing 5500 RPM at 60 mph in top gear.

5500 RPM?

You are a little out of touch kid.

Today's crotch rockets wind up to over 10,000 rpm.

 

[Racer X 69]

Re: Increased levels of enforcement, and where...

I think it's time you get called up for a "random" cuz you've obviously been smoking some of them "tweeds".

Like Shannon Tweed?

 

[Road Dust]

To each his own, but I wouldn't have a bike unless it was a Harley

 

[Racer X 69]

Most sport bike riders any more are over 40. Why do you hate harleys so much? Is it because it is a reflection of America? Did a big bad biker beat you up one day? Whatever it is we got the point!

TruckingBiker

Wait a minute.

Sport bikes are the crotch rockets, and I see mostly young, brainless and fearless kids riding them. And I use the term "riding" loosely, because they are often doing stupit stuff like riding a wheelie while passing traffic between the lanes of travel.

Like that jackass that was passing between me and another truck on the 99 near Modesto a few weeks back.

Here is a sport bike. Notice how the rider's knee is real close to scraping the cap clean off.

It is the cruiser that has the 40 and up demographic.

Bikes like you and your wife have. Are you two old enough to ride them yet?

 

[j911brick]

Re: Increased levels of enforcement, and where...

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that's nothing. you should see the new 1000rr.
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[j911brick]

Re: Increased levels of enforcement, and where...

5500 RPM?

You are a little out of touch kid.

Today's crotch rockets wind up to over 10,000 rpm.

more like 14,000 rpm, and honda had a bike in the 60s that red lined at 18,000. it idled at 8,000 rpm.

 

[j911brick]

"Motor Harley Davidson Cycles" is like the Peterbilt of motorcycles.

(I've always called them "Motor Harley Davidson Cycles" because that's how it's written on the logo)

Your right, and that is why I won't own a Pete either.

 

[Sinister]

Re: Increased levels of enforcement, and where...

Harley is a geezer bike if there ever was one, and the Harley company even admits it. Theyare o worried about their ageing demographic that they are considering making wheel chairs and taking on AARP sponsorship. I don't think i have seen anyone under 70 riding a Harley.

I'm surprised more people didn't jump all over the idiocy in this statement.

Harley has probably the widest selection of models catering to any age group I can think of. 883 sportsters for younger guys and girls, and giant geezer glides for older folks and everything in between.

I doubt you've seen 70 year olds on a Blackline, or a Fatboy, nor have you seen a 25 year old riding a Road King.

Don't troll.

 

[Racer X 69]

Re: Increased levels of enforcement, and where...

more like 14,000 rpm, and Honda had a bike in the 60s that red lined at 18,000. it idled at 8,000 rpm.

See there Ducky?

Screamers!

5500 RPM.


Phtt!

 

[j911brick]

Re: Increased levels of enforcement, and where...

Most sport bike riders any more are over 40. Why do you hate harleys so much? Is it because it is a reflection of America? Did a big bad biker beat you up one day? Whatever it is we got the point!

TruckingBiker

i don't think most is accurate. many , yes. that is because we started riding them back when we were younger, and still do. But still most sport bikes are bought by people under 30.

Mostly i don't like harleys because of their owners. the bikes are crap as well (I worked on them for a couple years). Antiquated and rudimentary technology at best. Hell, they had to go to Porsche to get the V-rod right because they don't know how to engineer technology. I actually wouldn't mind a V-rod since it seems decent. Back to the owners: As I see it, most Harley owners riding. They are more about just owning a harley and posing to their other Harley buds. To them: if your not on a Harley, your not on a motorcycle. for some reason they think everybody wants a Harley which is pretty arrogant, not to mention dead wrong. Most the Harley riders I see have never ued the bike for anything but hopping from bar to bar and getting drunk; and bikes and alcohol don't mix. I really can't understand why anybody would even want one. They don't do anything particularly well: Build quality is low; performance is low; reliability is low; fit and finish is low. Are these really the standards that define motorcycling to you?

 

[boone315]

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Ahhh, ain't that cute, it comes with it's own training wheels.
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[boone315]

Re: Increased levels of enforcement, and where...

Like Shannon Tweed?

I remember that issue, very popular reading in the locker room.

 

[j911brick]

Re: Increased levels of enforcement, and where...

I'm surprised more people didn't jump all over the idiocy in this statement.

Harley has probably the widest selection of models catering to any age group I can think of. 883 sportsters for younger guys and girls, and giant geezer glides for older folks and everything in between.

I doubt you've seen 70 year olds on a Blackline, or a Fatboy, nor have you seen a 25 year old riding a Road King.

Don't troll.

Do your homework. the reality is that harley's biggest problem is their increasingly aging demographic. They are well aware that their customer base and sales will diminish as riders get too old. that is why they bought Buell and MV Augusta in the first place.

 

[j911brick]

Ahhh, ain't that cute, it comes with it's own training wheels.

funny you should mention it. I'm seeing allot of harleys with training wheels these (for real).

 

[j911brick]

To each his own, but I wouldn't have a bike unless it was a Harley

And that is my point. For people like you its not about motorcycling; its about posing on a Harley.

 

[j911brick]

Re: Increased levels of enforcement, and where...

These are my bikes:

BikePics - James S. Bricken's Member Page on BikePics.Com

 

[Racer X 69]

Re: Increased levels of enforcement, and where...

that is why they bought Buell

Eric Buell was an engineer for HD. He designed and developed the Buell line. Just a year or two back HD let the line go.

Now Eric Buell is building a new Buell bike with a modified Rotax V-twin engine.

Suggested retail price: $39,999.

 

[Racer X 69]

Is this the bike you took up into the Great White North?

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[j911brick]

Is this the bike you took up into the Great White North?

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Yep. Love this bike! This picture was taken on a trip the year before on the Continental Divide trail. If you look in my personal photos you see pics from my trip to Inuvik and Alaska.
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