It's official, we are in a serious downturn in rates


Best load on Amazon in my area right now is $1.71 a mile and they figure it'll take almost 10 hours on just under 400 miles. Add about 40 miles of bobtail on each end, about an hour and 45 mins all together for that. So basically a 12 hour day at less than $725. That's 60 bucks an hour gross with $5.29/gal fuel coming out.

Imagine having a quarter million dollar new truck payment on that. Yikes.

JB Hunt hasn't been much better, if at all. Worse in most cases since they send you out into oblivion to fetch an empty first.
 
Just like groceries, you have that option of simply leaving it on the shelf. Eventually, they will get the message or try and pass off old meat as fresh meat.

Like @mndriver I have a great stock of just simple daily items and about 18 months of frozen meats and seafood. And yes, many jugs and bottles of water stored in the guest room.
 
Just like groceries, you have that option of simply leaving it on the shelf. Eventually, they will get the message or try and pass off old meat as fresh meat.

Like @mndriver I have a great stock of just simple daily items and about 18 months of frozen meats and seafood. And yes, many jugs and bottles of water stored in the guest room.
Yes thankfully I have a bit of a supply of goods. I always thought I would use it for a power outage or some kind of natural disaster.
I may have to dig into that stock because of inflation. I didn't see that one coming.
 
Best load on Amazon in my area right now is $1.71 a mile and they figure it'll take almost 10 hours on just under 400 miles. Add about 40 miles of bobtail on each end, about an hour and 45 mins all together for that. So basically a 12 hour day at less than $725. That's 60 bucks an hour gross with $5.29/gal fuel coming out.

Imagine having a quarter million dollar new truck payment on that. Yikes.

JB Hunt hasn't been much better, if at all. Worse in most cases since they send you out into oblivion to fetch an empty first.
That’s painful rates with the current increase in costs. You can likely still profit with those numbers, but not a lot.

I broke $3 from Wisconsin to Texas with my next load. Even managed to push passed the 15 day average by a few dollars. So, still doing ok for now.

I think it will be fairly easy to remain profitable with the adjustments/corrections but definitely not the easy money we have gotten used to.
 
Yes thankfully I have a bit of a supply of goods. I always thought I would use it for a power outage or some kind of natural disaster.
I may have to dig into that stock because of inflation. I didn't see that one coming.
TEOTWAWKI comes in many forms…

Recession is when it hits the other guy…

Depression is when it hits you.
 
That’s painful rates with the current increase in costs. You can likely still profit with those numbers, but not a lot.

I broke $3 from Wisconsin to Texas with my next load. Even managed to push passed the 15 day average by a few dollars. So, still doing ok for now.

I think it will be fairly easy to remain profitable with the adjustments/corrections but definitely not the easy money we have gotten used to.
I could only survive on that if I found that or better every day. Damn near impossible when that's the best you see and only 3 times a week.

The guys who signed short term contracts might be doing better, but I don't trust Amazon to know and consider the limitations of a day cab. You can't have unlimited wait times, run all 14 hours and take a 10 outside the gate the way I see all these sleepers doing. I feel those contracts are probably a disaster of even lower margins.
 
Milk, I can easily live without. Eggs? Now that is a different story altogether. A single breakfast for the dog and I requires 8 eggs. Four for each of us. Over almost raw for him, over easy for me. He prefers just raw out of the shell. It's like catnip to a cat for him, he goes ballistic. The crazy SOB even likes the shells! :confused-96: :coocoo:
 
Just like groceries, you have that option of simply leaving it on the shelf. Eventually, they will get the message or try and pass off old meat as fresh meat.

Like @mndriver I have a great stock of just simple daily items and about 18 months of frozen meats and seafood. And yes, many jugs and bottles of water stored in the guest room.
Yep I leave a lot on the shelf these days.
 
We have lots of capabilities….

Won't supply the whole country..

You'd need Hundreds if not Thousands of those plants to supply the whole country and that would probably take "Decades" to build it out
 
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I am on another forum where most of the membership is freight brokers and small carriers. A recent thread is discussing the domestic US freight rates and how they’re starting to cool off. However, apparently US to Canada rates are still pretty hot. (So they say). I don’t know if anyone here has noticed that or could verify?
 
I am on another forum where most of the membership is freight brokers and small carriers. A recent thread is discussing the domestic US freight rates and how they’re starting to cool off. However, apparently US to Canada rates are still pretty hot. (So they say). I don’t know if anyone here has noticed that or could verify?
Makes sense since no one wants to get Vaxxed to get across the line.
 
I am on another forum where most of the membership is freight brokers and small carriers. A recent thread is discussing the domestic US freight rates and how they’re starting to cool off. However, apparently US to Canada rates are still pretty hot. (So they say). I don’t know if anyone here has noticed that or could verify?
Maybe if the rates for crossing the DMZ get high enough Canada and the US, Will drop the Vaxx mandate.
Another win for the truckers convoy even if it was a very delayed win.
 
Maybe if the rates for crossing the DMZ get high enough Canada and the US, Will drop the Vaxx mandate.
Another win for the truckers convoy even if it was a very delayed win.
Another interesting thread I was reading over there was that some of the large Canadian carriers began applying “COVID Surcharges” a little while ago on all cross border shipments.

TFI, Challenger, Kriska were named. There were others too. $100-150 I think it was. Not sure if they’re still doing it.
 
Another interesting thread I was reading over there was that some of the large Canadian carriers began applying “COVID Surcharges” a little while ago on all cross border shipments.

TFI, Challenger, Kriska were named. There were others too. $100-150 I think it was. Not sure if they’re still doing it.
Like XPO with their paltry 50 bucks extra for hazmat.

Sorry still not worth it. They have no one in the fleet here to do them so they have to turn it all down. Lol.
 

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