IFTA and Profit Based Fueling Practices

[Hammer166]

Nope not in this department.

Dude, seriously? Saving your boss money when you can is never a bad idea. The whole "Fuck it! I'll fuel where I want!" mentality was one of the first symptoms of the rise of the SWH class of driver. It and the rampant out of route miles is what initially drove the Nanny State mentality of so many carriers.

I realize I'm very old school, and this sentiment isn't common anymore, but your boss pays you to do the very best you can, and to protect his investment to the best of your ability. That includes not incurring unnecessary costs. Because you can believe all you want that it doesn't matter, but I'll promise you, no good manager is handing out raises in a division with rising controllable costs.

 

[GAnthony]

You are whether you want to believe it or not.


Sam speedy saves his boss $4000 annually because he pays attention to where he fuels. Despite running fast and hard

Sam speedy dgaf where he fuels because it's easy for him and he "gets it done".

Guess which one is going to get a bigger raise at the end of the year?

2 Sam speedys..???

 

[mndriver]

2 Sam speedys..???

Corrected

 

[GAnthony]

Corrected

 

[Electric Chicken]

Dude, seriously? Saving your boss money when you can is never a bad idea. The whole "**** it! I'll fuel where I want!" mentality was one of the first symptoms of the rise of the SWH class of driver. It and the rampant out of route miles is what initially drove the Nanny State mentality of so many carriers.

I realize I'm very old school, and this sentiment isn't common anymore, but your boss pays you to do the very best you can, and to protect his investment to the best of your ability. That includes not incurring unnecessary costs. Because you can believe all you want that it doesn't matter, but I'll promise you, no good manager is handing out raises in a division with rising controllable costs.

Wow talk about exaggerations and assumptions.

 

[Electric Chicken]

We have 90 gallon fuel tanks. Our routes pretty much dictate where we fuel. PA when going north, MD/VA when working south.

 

[Tazz]

You are whether you want to believe it or not.


Sam speedy saves his boss $4000 annually because he pays attention to where he fuels. Despite running fast and hard

Joe Driver dgaf where he fuels because it's easy for him and he "gets it done".

Guess which one is going to get a bigger raise at the end of the year?

Most big companies run a fuel program, Punkin only grades on mpg and cruise usage. They give you solutions for fuel.

Yeah what you are saying may matter at Peckerwood Express where the guy who signs the checks pays for the fuel. However Punkin, Swight (or whatever we are calling them), JB, Heartland etc are not paying what you see on that sign.

 

[Rigjockey]

Thanks for explaining that. No one ever taught us because company drivers don't deal with it.

Generally speaking all this admin extra is why I prefer being a company driver in the first place.

They should be explaining it! It impacts the bottom line.
One place that I worked at as a company driver they would give us a copy of our IFTA for our truck for that quarter that is highly unusual for any company, But it showed us if our truck was losing money on fuel purchases and where we had made a bad choice.
Sure, sometimes you get low on fuel in a bad place and if you have the time to make another stop then just grab as much fuel as you need from the bad spot to get you to a better spot.

 

[Electric Chicken]

Most big companies run a fuel program, Punkin only grades on mpg and cruise usage. They give you solutions for fuel.

Yeah what you are saying may matter at Peckerwood Express where the guy who signs the checks pays for the fuel. However Punkin, Swight (or whatever we are calling them), JB, Heartland etc are not paying what you see on that sign.

Yup and since we don't get solutions, it doesn't matter. I'll try to hit a Pilot or FJ for the rewards points. It's the one I added most to at US Xpress.

I'll fuel at Greencastle if it logistically makes sense for my route but I don't have a rewards card there and don't want to start yet another one if I can just keep building on what I have. Their parking and fuel situation sucks and their access road/entrance isn't any better so I like to avoid it if possible.

If we need to go out of route for fuel, they ask us where we want to go and give us a routing point so we get paid the mileage. If it mattered, they'd dictate where we go.

 

[Duck]

Dude, seriously? Saving your boss money when you can is never a bad idea. The whole "**** it! I'll fuel where I want!" mentality was one of the first symptoms of the rise of the SWH class of driver. It and the rampant out of route miles is what initially drove the Nanny State mentality of so many carriers.

I realize I'm very old school, and this sentiment isn't common anymore, but your boss pays you to do the very best you can, and to protect his investment to the best of your ability. That includes not incurring unnecessary costs. Because you can believe all you want that it doesn't matter, but I'll promise you, no good manager is handing out raises in a division with rising controllable costs.

What makes you think anyone at a giant operation like Schneider is even going to notice one individual driver's fueling decisions are saving them money?

 

[mndriver]

They hire $60,000+ salary employees just to look for those pennies.

I know me and other engineers I worked with even calculated the cost of towels and other items down to a box and how long many chemical bath changes you'd get out of said box.

All to cut costs.

People notice.

 

[gearjammer]

probably done by a simple computer program

 

[ironpony]

What makes you think anyone at a giant operation like Schneider is even going to notice one individual driver's fueling decisions are saving them money?

You think pointy-headed bean counters have anything better to do?

Its not worth going out to Cali from a profit/cost standpoint, so those morons can do whatever they like.

 

[gearjammer]

Ip is was hard to like that post and look at your avatar so I had to close my eyes and hold my nose to do it ,lol

 

[ironpony]

Ip is was hard to like that post and look at your avatar so I had to close my eyes and hold my nose to do it ,lol

LOL, I knew you could.

Maybe I'll do Adam Smith next week.

 

[Ranger_375]

What makes you think anyone at a giant operation like Schneider is even going to notice one individual driver's fueling decisions are saving them money?

Knight tracks non solution fueling.

Except to fuel non solution requires your card to be open, which it isn't. Fueling at other locations just requires a call to dispatch to have a fuel solution modification (which I do often, as keeping my loves rewards high = free lunches). Or, if you are at or going to a location that you cannot normally get a solution for, yet they take EFS, just call when night dispatch is on duty, as they just open up the card for a 2 hour window...get what you need, where you need it.

If they provided any sort of training regarding things, I would be doing things differently.

 

[Electric Chicken]

They hire $60,000+ salary employees just to look for those pennies.

I know me and other engineers I worked with even calculated the cost of towels and other items down to a box and how long many chemical bath changes you'd get out of said box.

All to cut costs.

People notice.

Nevermind that they fly us out to Chicago and back for training, put us up in a hotel for 5 days (gave me an extra night since I drove), and pay us for everything.

They did switch to reusable zip ties though.

 

[ironpony]

They did switch to reusable zip ties though.

Cheap buzztards

 

[Injun]

Sure it does.


You save your boss fuel money, he can give a portion of that to you.

Cut one expense so he can put it to a part that makes a difference.

Saving your boss money when you can is never a bad idea.

Most large companies tell company drivers where to fuel and how much to buy. Company drivers do not have discretion on it.

 

[Hammer166]

Most large companies tell company drivers where to fuel and how much to buy. Company drivers do not have discretion on it.

Of course they do! But hawk said he can fuel where he wants, and wants to believe that no one tracks fuel costs. While the driver may think they're only judged on mpg, in a low margin industry like trucking, I guarantee someone knows exactly what the cpm of that division runs.