Ontario Outlaw
Hozer Witta Hood
Anyone run these before?
Horton roller bushings
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Anyone run these before?
r3gulator3
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Anyone with a Freightliner Cascadia has ran them since around 2013. Only thing bad about them is you must lift your steer axle off the ground to properly lubricate the bearings
r3gulator3
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They weren’t Horton branded but roller bearing bushings and king pins
Ontario Outlaw
Hozer Witta Hood
You should be doing that to grease your kingpins anyway
r3gulator3
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Most dont
Ontario Outlaw
Hozer Witta Hood
I don’t, because of the autogreaser. I’m not 100% sold on that idea, but got talked into leaving the grease lines hooked up to the kingpins
r3gulator3
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I would never run an auto greaser because all the water in the grease gets pumped into the joints before the grease does...as the grease separates.
Ontario Outlaw
Hozer Witta Hood
It seems a shame to delete the system though, they are spendy to install.
I agree though, I’d rather grease everything by hand and know how it’s been done. Having blind faith in a machine is not my style
Ontario Outlaw
Hozer Witta Hood
My spring guy said about $1700 installed.
But, he’s never done a binder. He also said they don’t fit on every truck either. He isn’t sure if the Horton bushings will fit, he “thinks” they would be the right size.
I’m thinking this may be a “if it’s not broke don’t rush out to change them” thing, but a good upgrade if they do need doing .
My spring guy did warn me if you don’t keep up on the maintenance on these, you’re throwing your money away.
But, he’s never done a binder. He also said they don’t fit on every truck either. He isn’t sure if the Horton bushings will fit, he “thinks” they would be the right size.
I’m thinking this may be a “if it’s not broke don’t rush out to change them” thing, but a good upgrade if they do need doing .
My spring guy did warn me if you don’t keep up on the maintenance on these, you’re throwing your money away.
r3gulator3
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Ask anyone driving a Cascadia. Freightliner has proved it’s the quietest ride on the road.
Gdjjr
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Maybe- that doesn't negate what I said because steel will telephone noise better than a malleable mat'l- But if that is the case (quite) there is something else to dampen the noise, and it just might be those drivers came out of something really noisy. I personally liked the KW ant eaters I drove over the Freight Liner fleet trucks I drove but they were a better ride than the Pete I drove which was spec'd for reselling to loggers and damn the OTR in the mean time- I didn't like the Volvo because it was too soft a ride and felt like it was on a rail about to fall off which reminded me of F 100 pickups with twin I beam suspension in front- but lots of people liked it.
Gdjjr
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I just visited their web site- the roller bushings are for springs, not king pins, which is what I was referring to.
In that application (springs) roller bushings would be a good idea because typical bushing mat'l is malleable and doesn't wear well. After a while the pin will wear as will the bushing and cause all kinds of havoc. Keeping them greased with grease designed to withstand high pressure would postpone but postpone only- the roller style will still require maintenance which includes proper grade grease- there's also load distribution to consider and they probably have a lot of testing to back their claims, but, still there is less surface area for weight distribution in the roller vs the malleable mat'l that runs the entire length of the pin. It would, I think, come down to maintenance.
In that application (springs) roller bushings would be a good idea because typical bushing mat'l is malleable and doesn't wear well. After a while the pin will wear as will the bushing and cause all kinds of havoc. Keeping them greased with grease designed to withstand high pressure would postpone but postpone only- the roller style will still require maintenance which includes proper grade grease- there's also load distribution to consider and they probably have a lot of testing to back their claims, but, still there is less surface area for weight distribution in the roller vs the malleable mat'l that runs the entire length of the pin. It would, I think, come down to maintenance.
r3gulator3
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Yes those hortons you see pictures are for the springs, Detroit steer axles in the Freightliner Cascadia have roller bearing king pins.
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