Duck
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He probably deleted a whole bunch of ironpony's trollish posts, and one of yours was in reply to it or something. The message was probably intended for IP.
Extending Oil Drain Intervals: What is your experience?
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Humble pie
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Didn’t you haul containers out of Norfolk with that 2n? Is that the one you broke the scale with? That bypass filter really woke her up.
Duck
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Humble pie
What we have is a failure to communicate.
I think iron phony has multiple personalities or Tourette’s syndrome
Humble pie
What we have is a failure to communicate.
Pulled so hard it cracked the block I see.
I pulled a T-660 that was stuck in ice once with it.
Duck
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I think somebody let water freeze in it.
I had 'em weld that up in 2003.
The weld leaks because they suck at TIG. I think it's antifreeze puddles have killed two dogs and an owl so far.
Extended oil intervals though, (so Mike doesn't go on a deletion spree again
) I only run that tractor maybe 2-3 hours a year. So I went ten years without changing it. It was black and thick and I had to scrape sludge out of the filter can. Damn thing had no thermostat.
Humble pie
What we have is a failure to communicate.
Must’ve been water because no 2n in the history of the world has ever pulled hard enough to break a rod.I think somebody let water freeze in it.
I had 'em weld that up in 2003.
The weld leaks because they suck at TIG. I think it's antifreeze puddles have killed two dogs and an owl so far.
Extended oil intervals though, (so Mike doesn't go on a deletion spree again
Shogun Warrior
Loaded like a freight train flyin like an airplane
Duck
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It's... 23 hp? 26? Something like that.
120 cubic inches, flathead 4 cylinder.
Electric Chicken
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Just like its owner!
Duck
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Anyway the oil got full of sludge because of overcooling. It doesn't run hot enough to evaporate moisture and condensation.
They ran them with 160° thermostats or no thermostat at all, because glycol hadn't been invented yet.
They ran straight water in the summer and alcohol in the winter. The alcohol would evaporate above 160°.
So they overcooled and sludge built up in the oil.
I put a 190° thermostat in it.
Diesel trucks also overcool when idling. So I'd assume they'd also build up sludge when idling overnight in cold weather. But I've never heard of it happening.
You probably won't get any sludge in an oil sample because it stays in the engine when you drop the oil.
First, how do you gain nothing by doing oil analysis? If you can catch coolant in your oil, or fuel dilution, before it gets to be a big problem, can you see no benefit there?
As for fleets extending oil drains, that is not what we are talking about here. Fleets extend simply to save money, with no addition of bypass filtration. Doing it that way, you are obviously destroying an engine with no regard to how the truck performs at high mileage.
No, I deleted continual stuff regarding Kevin Rutherford, which this thread has nothing to do with, and it continued again after deleting it all. Since everyone is concerned and needs to know, that is what is up and I will post this publicly for a few minutes.
Humble pie
What we have is a failure to communicate.
The spinner type bypass filters “sling” the contaminates out of the oil and you are left with a sludge you have to clean out of the canister. The problem may be the 2n doesn’t hold enough oil to keep the sludge suspended in the oil so it eventually becomes all sludge.Anyway the oil got full of sludge because of overcooling. It doesn't run hot enough to evaporate moisture and condensation.
They ran them with 160° thermostats or no thermostat at all, because glycol hadn't been invented yet.
They ran straight water in the summer and alcohol in the winter. The alcohol would evaporate above 160°.
So they overcooled and sludge built up in the oil.
I put a 190° thermostat in it.
Diesel trucks also overcool when idling. So I'd assume they'd also build up sludge when idling overnight in cold weather. But I've never heard of it happening.
You probably won't get any sludge in an oil sample because it stays in the engine when you drop the oil.
Duck
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Big fleets are all part of the ATA (Anti Trucking Association). They lobby government for things that hurt their competitors. Small fleets and independents.
Who buys their used equipment? Small fleets and O/O's.
Extended oil drains without bypass filtration is to them, probably just another way to screw over the competition while saving a few bucks in the process.
Identify what is causing the coolant intrusion, and fix it.
If you are operating a piece of machinery for 400k miles and dumping it, with a guaranteed value at the end of that 400k, why would you do additional work to it that gains you nothing, and only costs you money? Really has nothing to do with the point of the thread, but common sense tells me to bypass the maintenance that I won't benefit in any way by doing.
Duck
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It's a regular type of paper element filter.
Capacity 4 qts
Duck
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I'd see it as dishonest to sell a piece of equipment without telling the buyer you ignored the maintenance schedule.
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