Drive for ATS.


Not to mention idiots that hang stuff on the grills are causing hot spots in the A/C condenser, the charge air coolers and the radiators. The days of winter fronts are long gone.
 
The days of winter fronts are long gone.
Surprisingly, you can still get these with a new truck purchase. Only time they would be of any help is in icy conditions. Not a bad thing to have when the snow/ice is coming down pretty hard, cause that stuff can be a pain to remove once the truck starts getting hot.
 
Surprisingly, you can still get these with a new truck purchase. Only time they would be of any help is in icy conditions. Not a bad thing to have when the snow/ice is coming down pretty hard, cause that stuff can be a pain to remove once the truck starts getting hot.
I know that you can get them. The OEM fronts have a diamond shape which allows air in at a regulated rate is specific positions. Hanging a base plate in the grill disrupts the proper flow of air over the needed components.

I know it doesn't just simply melt, especially when the temps dip even lower.
 
I know that you can get them. The OEM fronts have a diamond shape which allows air in at a regulated rate is specific positions. Hanging a base plate in the grill disrupts the proper flow of air over the needed components.

I know it doesn't just simply melt, especially when the temps dip even lower.
My Western Star came with one. It's still in the wrapper under the bed, and will likely only come out for really frigid nights. The one Belmor makes for the Stars has a W-shaped opening that's not centered. I put 2 fan hubs on my 07 before I realized the offset fan loading was eating the bearings. I've only put one on at night since then.
 
I'd get one for the Mack but my inclination is just to phone it in and go back to bed.
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I'd get one for the Mack but my inclination is just to phone it in and go back to bed.
Honestly, until it gets really cold, like below - 20F, modern engines don't need them. The biggest benefit is it's easier to keep the cab warm.

Back in the old days, you couldn't get the water temp up without one. It didn't help that few trucks had fan clutches.
 
Honestly, until it gets really cold, like below - 20F, modern engines don't need them. The biggest benefit is it's easier to keep the cab warm.

Back in the old days, you couldn't get the water temp up without one. It didn't help that few trucks had fan clutches.
That's what I'm saying. If it's that cold I'm not interested in working in it. My fingers would freeze to the chassis pin locks. It's not even worth it.
 
Honestly, until it gets really cold, like below - 20F, modern engines don't need them.
Even below that, they can withstand the temp. That's why, for me, the only benefit is to protect the grill from when you are into the wind during heavy ice or snow, just to provide a way to more easily clear the crap away when it hits.
 
LOL! I load cars in that weather on a fairly regular basis. Of course, much of the last 30 years has been spent working in the Northern Plains, too.
 

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