It's easier to make some noise publicly, rather than address the true issue.
4 people are dead in the Colorado pileup. A truck driver faces vehicular homicide charges
It's easier to make some noise publicly, rather than address the true issue.
ironpony
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The crimes were committed in Colorado, but the driver was licensed by Texas. There's not much the state of Colorado can do by itself about your larger issue in this case.
r3gulator3
IMA KEEP IT REDNECK
Going down a 6% grade? You ain’t gonna coast to a stop. Especially loaded.
Hillbilly Canuck
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Best you do is lock up the power steering and go wherever straight-ish leads you.
Electric Chicken
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My truck don't do straight-ish. It'd be flying off to the right for sure.
F'ed up alignment FTW.
ironpony
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That final 3 - 4 miles past the Morrison exit is 3% or so, diminishing to more or less level about 4 miles past the accident site (Denver West) at the Ward Rd exit.
r3gulator3
IMA KEEP IT REDNECK
Still, any amount of down hill loaded with lumber. You ain’t coasting to a stop. Especially if your brakes are failed and your already doing 85+ his only option was the ramp to stop it. He missed it.
ironpony
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Agreed. That last escape ramp is on the last 6% stage on the long straightaway before the Morrison exit.
The truck speed limit is 45 mph, and there is a long history of serious/fatal heavy truck accidents at the bottom of that second 6% section around the Morrison exit because of the long, steep grade and sharp curve.
The arraignment was Friday, 40 charges...
They include 36 felonies and four lesser counts:
- Four counts of vehicular homicide-reckless
- Six counts of first-degree assault
- 24 counts of attempted first-degree assault
- Two counts of vehicular assault
- One count reckless driving
- Three counts crime of violence (which is a sentencing enhancer)
Truck Driver Charged...
SueAnn
Be safe guys, much love
I've been watching this whole event since it happened and reading this thread. I travel that highway and mountain a lot. I'm having a real problem believing that he didn't know what he was doing, that he feels any remorse for what he did and ultimately, I honestly think he tried to kill as many people as he could.
I watched him in court, sitting there like he thought it was a joke. His feet crossed as his interpreter spoke to him. There is something in his face that says to me, he intended on doing it and his is not sorry in the least.
I'm glad they charged him with so many charges. I hope he is convicted of everyone of them. Spending the rest of his life in jail, in my opinion, is not good enough.
One more thing, in one of the news casts I watched, they said that the only by stander to help the victims get out of their cars was a homeless man who rescued three people. It breaks my heart when I see all the other people standing around with their cellphones taking pics, etc., while people are dying. I hope they reward the homeless man for his bravery.
Just my opinion.
Electric Chicken
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Yeah I'm not thinking he went out that day intending to do this.
I think he just knows his employer was sh*t for maintenance and doesn't take enough responsibility for it as a result.
I think he just knows his employer was sh*t for maintenance and doesn't take enough responsibility for it as a result.
Here's the thing that hangs the driver: he went by that ramp well above the truck speed, and there's no brake lights or smoke. Colorado considers 25 over reckless driving, and it'll be easy enough to time his speed in the video. Even if he's not 25 over at that point, he's going to have explain why he was coming off so fast.
The other damming thing was his statement that he "closed his eyes and steered towards those cars."
If I did what he did, I'd be in a very bad place mentally. I've saved enough peoples asses from their own stupidity over the years, knowing I went the other way this time? I don't really want to think about that man in the mirror would be saying.
The other damming thing was his statement that he "closed his eyes and steered towards those cars."
If I did what he did, I'd be in a very bad place mentally. I've saved enough peoples asses from their own stupidity over the years, knowing I went the other way this time? I don't really want to think about that man in the mirror would be saying.
(((ME)))
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Your right....I drove enough mountain country.....99% of the time I let the trucker have the road ......don't know what being hauled or the weight....or what going on inside the truck.
(((ME)))
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I drove a old car long ago foot feed stuck on it was a wild ride .....only way I could get it shut down was cut the fuel....that was before the lock steering wheels came out.
(((ME)))
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I road the bar ditch twice to save lives....it a hairy ride...those ditch are rough going.
Duck
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I don't think he did it on purpose. Unless Facebook & Twitter deleted his accounts. They'd only do that if there's stuff that ties them to Islam, Antifa, La Raza, or some other terrorist organization they want to protect from public scrutiny.
So unless his accounts have been hidden or deleted, he's probably just immature and stupid like 99% of people his age.
SueAnn
Be safe guys, much love
Probably. We'll see what the trial uncovers.
SueAnn
Be safe guys, much love
That's what I'm having a real problem with. Regardless of his age and experience, who in their right mind does that?? Scared or not, he knew he was going to kill a lot of people, doing that. And how did he get out of the truck before it went up in flames? His actions don't make sense to me. Nor does his demeanor in court.
Duck
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I'll have to dig up a video again. I saw one but didn't pay attention to him, I got distracted by the interpreter, realizing that he doesn't speak English and therefore probably can't read it either.
ironpony
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Doesn't matter @Duck - if you get in a big truck, and go down the road, you accept the responsibility of operating within the law in a manner that doesn't endanger others. That includes understanding the meaning of all roadway signage. He doesn't get a pass on this.
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