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The werner Hostile Work Environment

Sean McQuaid

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Hostile Work Environment:

An example of a way a hostile work environment may be defined is (1) when a boss or manager begins to engage in a manner designed to make you quit in retaliation for your actions. Suppose you report safety violations at work, get injured at work, attempt to join a union, complain to upper level management about a problem at work, or act as a whistleblower in any respect. (2) Then, the company's response is to do all manner of things to make you quit, like writing you up for work rules you didn't break, reducing your hours, scheduling you for hours that are in total conflict with what you can do, setting impossible goals, replacing a base pay with commission or reducing your salary. (3) The company's reaction can be viewed as creating a hostile work environment, one that makes it impossible to work and is an attempt to make you quit so that the employer does not have to pay unemployment benefits.

Breaking it down by the numbers with the experiences I had by Werner, the Hostile work environment is as follows:

((1): a boss or manager - in my case, my dispatcher - begins to engage in a manner designed to make you quit in retaliation for your actions): In my case, I was forced to run against the clock with just about every load I was assigned to in spite that just about all loads have a window which exceeds the delivery time I was given. I asked at many of my stops if the load had a window, and they told me YES. The result was I had no time for showering on a long distance load (often showering must be done while enroute as it is often that the 10 hour shutdown occurs in a location where a shower is unavailable - such as a rest area, parking lot - etc.). I was denied personal drive time to get to a shower of shop for food often because I was under a preassigned load. Or I did not put in for personal drive time because after a day on the road, I needed my full rest. 10 hours gave me just enough time to eat, do paperwork and check scheduling, and get my 8 hours sleep to say nothing of factoring in showering and wait time for the shower. In using the term my dispatcher used - "fighting", I began to fight him as he saw no reason when I attempted to get him to ease up on my tight running times. And if I was shut down at a location more than the normal 10 hour, the situation was the same, that being no shower or place to shop for food - etc. where I was, and waiting until I was on the move again to get to a shower, food etc.. Running against the clock as I had to do is contrary to safety; and because I had no time for showering and food breaks, goes contrary to health and hygene. My dispatcher contends it was because of how I logged. I did not log in any way contrary to D.O.T. regulations, but I did log contrary to Werner's attempt to make a driver work (be on duty) more than 70 hours a week. I did not quit. Instead I began to take breaks and showers when I really needed them, resulting in late loads. I might add that I was run far more than veterin drivers with years in the company because it was cheaper to run me (pay scale). I spoke to many veterins driving the same regions I was, who would sit often for days waiting for a load assignment at the same time I was recieving preassigned loads often before I delivered the load I was under. And with the recession, I am sure the company was saving any way they could.

((2): Then, the company's response is to do all manner of things to make you quit, like writing you up for work rules you didn't break, reducing your hours, scheduling you for hours that are in total conflict with what you can do, setting impossible goals....): In my case, Because I did not quit in response to my dispatcher's continued reluctance to loosten my travel time a little, I was set up for the late loads. I will note the fact that in addition to my low pay scale being the reason to run me more than the veterin driver, it also works out that the more miles a dispatcher runs a driver, the more the dispatcher makes. In conjunction to taking care of myself, delivering on time (especially long distance) was the impossible task. I even recieved a load on an occasion which could not be delivered on time even without a break of any kind. There were also occasions during my tight running times I was set up for load swaps with other drivers - something Werner seems to have a habit of doing. But because my times were so tight, and in my attempt to deliver on time without time to stop multiple times, I did not stop every time the Qualcomm beeped. This is because most of the time the messages were the same "generic" bulletins sent daily. Stopping - say 8 times (average amount of times the Qualcomm would beep a generic message in a day) - can lose an hour or more on the road because I'd have to pull into a rest area to stop the truck and use the Qualcomm. And most often, I did not have that hour to lose. My Dispatcher (JD Hodgestradt) seemed to think I could stop multiple times to look at every single Qualcomm message and still make the loads on time. After missing load swaps and arguing with dispatch about the reasons why, I began to stop each time the qualcomm beeped (often every half hour) which resulted in slower average speeds and late loads. This forced dispatch to back up my delivery times. This is a case where dispatch/driver relations were not working out, and I was not given another dispatcher after my request to Fleet Management. The impossible task thing is something I also experienced with Swift when getting a truck assignment; resulting in my driver code being terminated which they put on my DAC report as a V.Q. (Voluntary Quit) - an earlier result of the recession and having hired too many drivers for the government subsidy these trucking companies recieved for taking on student drivers. The end result with Werner was I was terminated for late loads, and disciplinary issues (fighting with dispatch).

((3): The company's reaction can be viewed as creating a hostile work environment, one that makes it impossible to work and is an attempt to make you quit so that the employer does not have to pay unemployment benefits): It is my contention that the company (Werner Enterprises) made it impossible for me to work in not seeing reason where the tight load times were concerned and not giving me a better window to properly take care of myself. Other examples of an impossible work environment with Werner were repairs not addressed in a timely manner (my truck was down a total of 15 days in a 40 day period for one problem which resulted in a low production rating my dispatcher tried to blame me for), and a Qualcomm System saying I was idling my truck when I was not. The issues of idling was cause for termination as well as late loads and low production, and I have seen many terminations of drivers within Werner for idling. I had this pressure and worry over something I was not doing on top of my load times, and saw myself as being set up in this instance as well as the late loads. This added to fights with dispatch, and more added stress on me. Because I did not quit (in a bad economy/recession, there was no way I was going to simply quit), the company used the late loads and my fighting with dispatch as reason for terminating me. this results in my not being able to collect unemployment benefits as per what I read in the guidelines to be eligible.

The tight running times (time vs. mileage) is all a matter of record through the electronic logging system. Additionally, my dispatcher (J.D. Hodgestradt) was uncooperative in helping me when I'd not know what certain things would mean. He'd not address my inquiry when I put it to him. As far as I see, Werner created an unnecessary hostile work environment on top of the usuals in trucking I was well aware of and willing to accept. The usuals being low pay, long hours, only 1 day off per week worked, away from home at least 3 weeks at a time, rude people in the terminals, not to mention the everyday hazards non-professional drivers create on the road on a daily basis. Werner added to these anomalies by not allowing me time when enrout on a long distance haul to properly care for myself, and do my job in a safe manner.
 
UMmmm.........not me...........sorry.
 
glenn I did'nt know.I took it once before and it was smooth as silk and besides it being a truckers route and says truckers route as well they should keep those brances trimmed dont ya think????????????????????????????????????????????????Shit happens.Are u one of those perfect drivers that has never hit anything or maybe u have and didnt feel it was that bad only your company felt it was.Im not trying to sell u anything.Youre just like the companies believing only what u want to not hearing the drivers side,gee imagine that,why am I not shocked.

you are very naive if you think that any city or town or even a state is going to "trim the branches"........they got better things to spend the money on that they don't even have anymore. and as a driver.........you basically "assumed" there would be no traffic........?? tsk...tsk......
 
glenn I did'nt know.I took it once before and it was smooth as silk and besides it being a truckers route and says truckers route as well they should keep those brances trimmed dont ya think????????????????????????????????????????????????Shit happens.Are u one of those perfect drivers that has never hit anything or maybe u have and didnt feel it was that bad only your company felt it was.Im not trying to sell u anything.Youre just like the companies believing only what u want to not hearing the drivers side,gee imagine that,why am I not shocked.

shit does happen patty. when i was 18 years old along time ago i turned a rig with oil field equipment on its side trying to be a good guy and pulling off to the shoulder of the road to let a car go by. i didnt have the rig secured tight enough and the load shifted and the next thing i knew i was in the passenger seat kissing asphalt. it was my dumb ass fault and a lesson well learned to say the least. my boss told me i couldnt "drive a nail" without checkin with him first.
 
Out in the east I don't assume there will be little or no traffic.I do predict traffic but don't predict low brances on a trk route.
you are very naive if you think that any city or town or even a state is going to "trim the branches"........they got better things to spend the money on that they don't even have anymore. and as a driver.........you basically "assumed" there would be no traffic........?? tsk...tsk......
 
shit does happen patty. when i was 18 years old along time ago i turned a rig with oil field equipment on its side trying to be a good guy and pulling off to the shoulder of the road to let a car go by. i didnt have the rig secured tight enough and the load shifted and the next thing i knew i was in the passenger seat kissing asphalt. it was my dumb ass fault and a lesson well learned to say the least. my boss told me i couldnt "drive a nail" without checkin with him first.
Thank god i've never rolled a semi.I use my judgment in the winter if conditions are in my favor,if not ill find the nearest safe haven and wait it out.Thank god you're here to tell your story.
 
Out in the east I don't assume there will be little or no traffic.I do predict traffic but don't predict low brances on a trk route.

so if you are driving thru small towns like Corning, NY on Rte 17 or going to Anderson window factory in Indiana and both these areas have "small streets" you'd expect all the trees to be trimmed specifically for a trucker......??

boy are you trying to sell something.........it ain't "just in the east" that have tree lined streets........i kinda thought I SAW tree's in all the lower 48 states...........??? and by the way, hurricanes and tornadoes and heavy rains will cause many tree branches to lie low till they "spring back", unless of course they totally break.........
 
First off smart guy I would check to see if this is a truckers route.If im delivering a load on that route and I hit a branch just feet from where im suppose to turn I would say that is non preventable.If u hit a branch because folks are too lazy to keep them trimmed and theres branches on both sides so smart guy,u tell me what am I suppose to do to avoid those branches when they are on both sides,play the zig zag game???????????????????????????
so if you are driving thru small towns like Corning, NY on Rte 17 or going to Anderson window factory in Indiana and both these areas have "small streets" you'd expect all the trees to be trimmed specifically for a trucker......??

boy are you trying to sell something.........it ain't "just in the east" that have tree lined streets........i kinda thought I SAW tree's in all the lower 48 states...........??? and by the way, hurricanes and tornadoes and heavy rains will cause many tree branches to lie low till they "spring back", unless of course they totally break.........
 
First off smart guy I would check to see if this is a truckers route.If im delivering a load on that route and I hit a branch just feet from where im suppose to turn I would say that is non preventable.If u hit a branch because folks are too lazy to keep them trimmed and theres branches on both sides so smart guy,u tell me what am I suppose to do to avoid those branches when they are on both sides,play the zig zag game???????????????????????????

like we've been telling sean............"it's the way it is"..................no matter truck route or not........if we need to be on a certain road, we are there, and so are the tree's and traffic.........it's a given.........you hit an take out a tree branch and do damage, its an accident. unless you personally climbed up on top, you would never know you ripped open the roof of the trailer.

and yes.......ever truck routes WILL have low branches........you cannot blame the town/city/state for the low branches. and they will not trim them for your convenience. and if you knock one down, and it damages the vehicle behind you, you had an accident.........
 
Of course it's an accident.My point is many accicidents are non preventable but companies see it differently as to why so many keep quiet.They give us a route that we must follow we hit an unavoidable branch and we get charged.They dont take the blame for anything and u think its our fault????????????????????????????Me taking Hwy 1 was my route and truckers route otherwise I would'nt have taken it ,u especially cant trust any of the east coast hwys.When I got to the drop yard I did look on top for any damages I used their ladder.I got inside and checked for any holes checked lites tires u name it I checked it. So when I called safety I could tell them exactly what damage was done.
like we've been telling sean............"it's the way it is"..................no matter truck route or not........if we need to be on a certain road, we are there, and so are the tree's and traffic.........it's a given.........you hit an take out a tree branch and do damage, its an accident. unless you personally climbed up on top, you would never know you ripped open the roof of the trailer.

and yes.......ever truck routes WILL have low branches........you cannot blame the town/city/state for the low branches. and they will not trim them for your convenience. and if you knock one down, and it damages the vehicle behind you, you had an accident.........
 
Of course it's an accident.My point is many accicidents are non preventable but companies see it differently as to why so many keep quiet.They give us a route that we must follow we hit an unavoidable branch and we get charged.They dont take the blame for anything and u think its our fault????????????????????????????Me taking Hwy 1 was my route and truckers route otherwise I would'nt have taken it ,u especially cant trust any of the east coast hwys.When I got to the drop yard I did look on top for any damages I used their ladder.I got inside and checked for any holes checked lites tires u name it I checked it. So when I called safety I could tell them exactly what damage was done.

you hit the branch because you weren't careful NOT to hit the branch. maybe you didn't slow down, maybe you didn't move ever so slightly to the right, or just close enough to the center line........many accidents are preventable in fact. its the non preventable ones that are rare. and who says one MUST follow the route the trucking company provides......??? unless heavy hauler or explosives, one can always route one self.

preventable accident...........you failed to do everything possible to avoid the accident

non-preventable accident.......you did everything possible to avoid the accident

and unless you have a witness or police reports to support your claim, you had a preventable.

"it's the way it is"
 
Did'nt slow down?????????????????????????????????I was doing less then 5 mph because of wall to wall traffic,can't get much slower then that.So give me a few examples of a NON PREVENTABLE accident.See glenn u was'nt there,u like the companies are playing far too much into this and u telling us what happened and u wasnt there unless u was hiding in the sleeper or maybe u was hiding in the trl.
you hit the branch because you weren't careful NOT to hit the branch. maybe you didn't slow down, maybe you didn't move ever so slightly to the right, or just close enough to the center line........many accidents are preventable in fact. its the non preventable ones that are rare. and who says one MUST follow the route the trucking company provides......??? unless heavy hauler or explosives, one can always route one self.

preventable accident...........you failed to do everything possible to avoid the accident

non-preventable accident.......you did everything possible to avoid the accident

and unless you have a witness or police reports to support your claim, you had a preventable.

"it's the way it is"
 
Did'nt slow down?????????????????????????????????I was doing less then 5 mph because of wall to wall traffic,can't get much slower then that.So give me a few examples of a NON PREVENTABLE accident.See glenn u was'nt there,u like the companies are playing far too much into this and u telling us what happened and u wasnt there unless u was hiding in the sleeper or maybe u was hiding in the trl.

if i were to have been hiding in the sleeper, you wouldn't have done any driving.........but that's another story for another time.......so ok.....you say you were doing a mere 5mph.........and you were trying to get over and you claimed no one was giving you space.........i'll just bet horns were honking, people were yelling at you, your blood is boiling, and you "gave it a little gas"........whatever...........you hit a tree, and didn't get out to look at any possible branch on the roof.

at least one non-preventable accident, you are already into an intersection, and some idiot blows thru the red-light he had, and goes under your trailer............you had done nothing wrong there. you are stopped at either a red light or stop sign, and someone rams the back of your truck...........you are not at fault...........BUT to SEE a tree and hit it.........now that's something totally different........that's a PREVENTABLE............you didn't do much of anything to stop yourself from hitting that tree branch...........
 
Oh pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee gimmi a brake.Noone was yelling,noone was honking their horns,I was'nt mad by any means.I'm not an aggressive driver Its the east coast.They're going to either let u over or they don't so do us all a favor glenn and quit reading more into this then what really happened.I was driving along 5 mph or lesss folks wouldnt let me over i hit a branch no damage to other cars or the limb ect ect.It is A NON PREVENTABLE ACCIDENT.Why don't u go work for a company,you'd fit right in.
if i were to have been hiding in the sleeper, you wouldn't have done any driving.........but that's another story for another time.......so ok.....you say you were doing a mere 5mph.........and you were trying to get over and you claimed no one was giving you space.........i'll just bet horns were honking, people were yelling at you, your blood is boiling, and you "gave it a little gas"........whatever...........you hit a tree, and didn't get out to look at any possible branch on the roof.

at least one non-preventable accident, you are already into an intersection, and some idiot blows thru the red-light he had, and goes under your trailer............you had done nothing wrong there. you are stopped at either a red light or stop sign, and someone rams the back of your truck...........you are not at fault...........BUT to SEE a tree and hit it.........now that's something totally different........that's a PREVENTABLE............you didn't do much of anything to stop yourself from hitting that tree branch...........
 
Oh pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee gimmi a brake.Noone was yelling,noone was honking their horns,I was'nt mad by any means.I'm not an aggressive driver Its the east coast.They're going to either let u over or they don't so do us all a favor glenn and quit reading more into this then what really happened.I was driving along 5 mph or lesss folks wouldnt let me over i hit a branch no damage to other cars or the limb ect ect.It is A NON PREVENTABLE ACCIDENT.Why don't u go work for a company,you'd fit right in.

in fact, some years ago, i was part of an accident investigation team. i liked it, but i had to travel and stay in more motels than if i was an ordinary driver and stayed in the sleeper. then the hours i had to work, just at any particular accident and coordinate tow trucks, work crews (to unload the trailers) insurance companies, drivers, (who always did nothing wrong), etc,etc........i said, "screw this crap" and went back to driving. but i could be interested in doing that again........for the right money......
 
Alot of drivers out here are excellent drivers they just get that bad end of the stick in so many cases.You like so many do not give them the benefit of the doubt.I learned yrs ago truckers are guilty till proven innocent.
in fact, some years ago, i was part of an accident investigation team. i liked it, but i had to travel and stay in more motels than if i was an ordinary driver and stayed in the sleeper. then the hours i had to work, just at any particular accident and coordinate tow trucks, work crews (to unload the trailers) insurance companies, drivers, (who always did nothing wrong), etc,etc........i said, "screw this crap" and went back to driving. but i could be interested in doing that again........for the right money......
 
Hitting a street sign I would imagine did alot more damage then the branch I hit.I had no choice but to hit it I could'nt get over.I looked behind me and the branch never fell.No damage to cars or the branch just my trl and a slight one at that.I have talk to many and they all agree this was a non preventable accident but the company didnt see it that way.Do u know what their defense was,I should have looked at the map while I was driving because I was going slow and could have found a different route.

ok, so going back to your posting, you said, "i have talked to many and they all agree this was a non-preventable accident, but the company didn't see it that way"........

meaning, you WERE CHARGED with a preventable.........of course "others will agree" its non-preventable...they were what.......drivers themselves.....???

as for the safety dept, they did RIGHT in charging you for an accident...........a PREVENTABLE one at that........?? see...........i was RIGHT all along............

of course i do agree, telling you to read a map while driving was wrong on thier part.........but they still NAILED you for a PREVENTABLE......

you can cry all you want it was a non-preventable like in the above posting.........but you cannot.............
 
Oh pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee gimmi a brake.Noone was yelling,noone was honking their horns,I was'nt mad by any means.I'm not an aggressive driver Its the east coast.They're going to either let u over or they don't so do us all a favor glenn and quit reading more into this then what really happened.I was driving along 5 mph or lesss folks wouldnt let me over i hit a branch no damage to other cars or the limb ect ect.It is A NON PREVENTABLE ACCIDENT.Why don't u go work for a company,you'd fit right in.


read posting # 156
 
BLAH BLAH BLAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!What ever CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok, so going back to your posting, you said, "i have talked to many and they all agree this was a non-preventable accident, but the company didn't see it that way"........

meaning, you WERE CHARGED with a preventable.........of course "others will agree" its non-preventable...they were what.......drivers themselves.....???

as for the safety dept, they did RIGHT in charging you for an accident...........a PREVENTABLE one at that........?? see...........i was RIGHT all along............

of course i do agree, telling you to read a map while driving was wrong on thier part.........but they still NAILED you for a PREVENTABLE......

you can cry all you want it was a non-preventable like in the above posting.........but you cannot.............
 
Alot of drivers out here are excellent drivers they just get that bad end of the stick in so many cases.You like so many do not give them the benefit of the doubt.I learned yrs ago truckers are guilty till proven innocent.

YESSSSSSSSSSS..............so true...............!!!!!!!!

............we ARE GUILTY first and foremost..............and it'll be that way forever and ever.............and do not forget the CSA2010/2011......that will nail many more drivers..............
 
BLAH BLAH BLAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!What ever CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no it ain't closed...............you're trying to say you a had a NON-PREVENTABLE.........when IN FACT you got a PREVENTABLE......of course drivers will always say you were not wrong...........this is why the safety dept does it's job.........and none of us like it, not even me............but, "its the way it is".............isn't it...........??

you just can't face it, you were guilty of the accident.............but you're trying to pass it off otherwise..........
 

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