Trump to California vehicle emissions regulators: ‘You’re fired!’

[Mike]

While professional truck drivers and others have long derided “The People’s Republic of California” for its heavy-handed environmental regulations, the Trump administration is using a constitutional argument to blunt the economic impact of the Golden State’s emissions rules.

By Friday, Sept. 20, the White House’s plan had sparked a war of words and eventually litigation as 23 states along with some local governments filed a lawsuit in federal court to stop Trump’s proposed change.

The Trump administration announced Sept. 19 that the U.S. DOT’s National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency were implementing the final version of a proposed rule called Safer, Affordable, Fuel-Efficient (SAFE) Vehicles Rule by issuing a final action titled the “One National Program Rule.” The One National Program Rule is designed to enable a uniform national standard for fuel economy and greenhouse gas emissions for automobiles and light duty trucks.

Trump to California vehicle emissions regulators: ‘You’re fired!’

The Trump administration challenges California and announces plans to implement its “One National Program Rule” on vehicle emissions.

landline.media

 

[Mike]

Gonna be cautiously optimistic about this. It could tone down the crazy crap that California does, it could end up causing California type change to instantly be nationwide.

 

[r3gulator3]

Gonna be cautiously optimistic about this. It could tone down the crazy crap that California does, it could end up causing California type change to instantly be nationwide.

Yeah, my gut reaction to this is scary. But I operate a California compliant rig. My car on the other hand would require work to meet CARB emissions. I hope though it swings the other way and limits the insanity of Commiefornia.

 

[krelithous]

Yeah, my gut reaction to this is scary. But I operate a California compliant rig. My car on the other hand would require work to meet CARB emissions. I hope though it swings the other way and limits the insanity of Commiefornia.

it would be sweet to see CARB closed down!!!

 

[Mike]

Feel free to discuss the actual topic if it is of interest to you, but not a gateway into political rants that have nothing to do with the topic.

 

[ironpony]

On the one hand they are backing off environmental regulations right and left - making it harder for California and others to hit clean air targets (fortunately blocked by the courts for good reason, so far.) On the other, they complain California isn't meeting those targets nor are they doing enough, and threaten their highway funds - which is patently illogical.

California has enacted some of the toughest standards in the nation (CARB come to mind?) and have tough local conditions exacerbating their problems. The coastal cities are hemmed in by mountains and suffer frequent inversion layers that trap pollutants near the ground, while the higher altitude and desert cities get that and ozone problems. CARB was grandfathered into the Clean Air Act because it existed before the feds got involved, and as recognition of California's unique problems that don't apply to much of the rest of the nation.

 

[Nomad1]

Read the article. They aren't changing a law. California will go to court though. We will see if they will win.

 

[ironpony]

Read the article. They aren't changing a law. California will go to court though. We will see if they will win.

No, they're not changing "the law," they are changing "the regulations," which are enabled by the law as an administrative vehicle to enforce "the law." Which makes the regulations part of the law.

Sounds ridiculous, but that's the way the gubbermint works. If we left everything up to Congress and their much ballyhooed ability to not get anything done and screw everything up in the process, we'd be really fucked!

Edit... So far the administration is coming off badly when their executive fiats are challenged. Something about, "No rational basis to overturn established science."

 

[Mike]

California will definitely take this to court, probably go back and forth for a while.

This power never should have been handed to a state. They push things through that are nowhere near ready, and everyone else suffers for it.

Seeing what their premature emissions rules did to the trucking industry should be all the information you need.

They jacked the automobile industry up as well for quite some time. Dealt with plenty of that crap working on cars at a dealer.

 

[Mike]

No, they're not changing "the law," they are changing "the regulations,"

They are revoking a waiver, and it is long overdue because it never should have been handed out in the first place.

 

[ironpony]

They jacked the automobile industry up as well for quite some time. Dealt with plenty of that crap working on cars at a dealer.

Tell me then why the auto industry is siding with California?

California reaches deal with automakers...

 

[Mike]

Tell me then why the auto industry is siding with California?

California reaches deal with automakers...

You will have to ask them that.

 

[r3gulator3]

Tell me then why the auto industry is siding with California?

California reaches deal with automakers...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[ironpony]

They are revoking a waiver, and it is long overdue because it never should have been handed out in the first place.

The fact that the Nixon Administration sided with California on this is tacit admission that to keep the air out there in the range of "not toxic to human life" should be enough for you to want to leave it alone. Turning air quality in the LA basin to that seen in Bejing China is not something any of us should want

 

[r3gulator3]

The fact that the Nixon Administration sided with California on this is tacit admission that to keep the air out there in the range of "not toxic to human life" should be enough for you to want to leave it alone. Turning air quality in the LA basin to that seen in Bejing China is not something any of us should want

While I don’t want LAs air to be more toxic. I also feel numbers get exaggerated. Plus there’s still plenty of smog puffing illegal shit driving around LA.

 

[Nomad1]

Tell me then why the auto industry is siding with California?

California reaches deal with automakers...

I don't think the car manufacturers reaching a compromise with California is them siding with California.

 

[ironpony]

I don't think the car manufacturers reaching a compromise with California is them siding with California.

Actually it is, and @r3gulator3 is correct, it's about money. The automakers have already made the judgement that CARB isn't going away no matter how much the administration wants to screw over California. If they side with the administration over this, they spend a horrendous amount of money retooling their production lines, only to have to spend another huge bucket of money to switch things back. And there's the 13 other states that have adopted CARB standards to help with their air quality problems.

 

[Duck]

The coastal cities are hemmed in by mountains and suffer frequent inversion layers that trap pollutants near the ground, while the higher altitude and desert cities get that and ozone problems.

California's topography is their problem. Not mine.

California does not have the constitutional authority to regulate what goes on in other states. And it's not "screwing them over" to remind them of this and put them back in their place.

As an Illinois resident who refuses to travel to California, I am 100% exempt from ALL California laws. They can kiss my big wide American ass.

 

[GAnthony]

As an Illinois resident who refuses to travel to California, I am 100% exempt from ALL California laws. They can kiss my big wide American ass.

what if the gorilla duct tape from your goldwing seat sticks to your ass, will they still be able to kiss it..???

 

[Duck]

Yeah, that's right ya freakin' moron. That's why they got different rules, so you don't have ta put up with that shyte.

Retard.

This is about CARB thinking they have the right to regulate what the people in other states do with our vehicles.