Railroads Toot Their Horns


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Read the entire article at TruckingInfo.com

11/25/2009

Double Stack Trains Provide More Fuel Savings Than Truck

Double stack freight rail transportation is up to five times more fuel efficient than truck transportation, according to a new report by the Federal Railroad Administration.

"While all types of transportation are vital to the distribution of goods across the country, this study shows that utilizing America's freight rail system can lead to significant fuel savings," said Joseph Szabo, FRA administrator. "The environmental benefits of these positive changes over the last two decades are enormous."

Well, how smart you gotta' be to figure that out? What the writers failed to mention was that cheaper is not always better. The railroads will never be able to provide "just in time" deliveries, or, "store door" deliveries, or, perishables. Just ain't gonna' happen.

For instance... The product I haul comes out of a reactor at a high temperature, and, that's the way it needs to be when it is transferred into our customers tanks. Railroads can't do that.
 

It also may create more work for bridge and power line repairs...............oops, what was that height?
 
Time sensitivity is a huge issue. A single railcar can load more than twice what a truck can, but how long does it take to stack a double stack freight train, 150 cars long, get it rolling, and stopped?

15 trucks have been there, delivered and reloaded and are headed back already.
 
Time sensitivity is a huge issue. A single railcar can load more than twice what a truck can, but how long does it take to stack a double stack freight train, 150 cars long, get it rolling, and stopped?

15 trucks have been there, delivered and reloaded and are headed back already.


True.
But if instead you used a giant-sized poster of your new avatar, I'm pretty sure it could stop a train in its tracks and make the freight jump off all by itself.

Geez, man. you coulda warned me!
 
If you really want to fix the rail roads wagon, tell your dispatcher you won't haul any parts for railcars or locomotives. I have refused to for years as they spend alot of money funding anti-trucking lobby groups. Obviously I realise that I haven't exactly brought them to their knees, but at least I know I am not helping people out that are trying to screw me out of a living. If they want a new engine delivered for their locomotive, then they can send a train in to get it! Oh yeah, that General Dynamics plant cant load them on trains from their facility.

Train this.
 
Want to make things fair. Since we have BS idle laws, lets apply them to the railroads also. Would like to see them shut those smokin dogs down for a cold night. Would take a week to get it back up and running right
 
It's a rivalry between the railroads and the interstates/trucks. I think we need both in this country. It is true that trains can haul more for less fuel (the fuel used per weight ratio), but trucks are the backbone of this country and getting things delivered. After all, every highway and road is not lined with a railroad. Some people (especially those in other transportation mediums) need to realize the roles trucks play in this country, and the country would collapse without them. I don't know, maybe OTR trucking will take a little more of a back seat in favor of shipping long haul by rail, but at the very least, some type of regional trucking will always be around. The last two posts before mine are great ones! Don't deliver the train parts on a truck, and don't allow the diesel locomotives to idle. LOL
 
I am doing nothing but hauling in and out of the CSX yard in East Syracuse, am making great money doing it, my pay this week was $2200 for 4 days of work, of course subtract taxes and that becomes $1600, now as far as their claims on fuel mileage, that is obviously b/s,, at the rail yard they have five 10,000 gallon fuel storage tanks, I'll let somebody else figure out how many miles they could travel on that if their claims were true, but regardless we are busier then heck, not quite sure if that is good or bad for the trucking industry
 
I will say this though, we are hauling containers full of donated care packages for the deployed troops that just came in(10 of them) and they have been sitting at the Chicago rail yard for almost a year, the seals are so rusted they are unreadable, hope there was no food in them care packages, doubt if they would be much good if there were
 
Why?
If they put the tracks in after home's r built I can understand, But if you buy or build close to the tracks would'nt the fact of trains coming down the track make noise be a hint not to buy.


I don't belive there is to much competition between trail and rails. Not to say that one day that wont change.
 
The fact that railroads are more fuel efficient has never been in question. The fact that your freight may arrive on time or sit forgotten on a siding somewhere for weeks or months has always been the issue. If the railroads ever figure out how to manage as efficiently as the trains run, long distance trucking might be in trouble. After 38 years in the business, I don't expect that to happen soon.
 
The fact that railroads are more fuel efficient has never been in question. The fact that your freight may arrive on time or sit forgotten on a siding somewhere for weeks or months has always been the issue. If the railroads ever figure out how to manage as efficiently as the trains run, long distance trucking might be in trouble. After 38 years in the business, I don't expect that to happen soon.

I haul for the rail, that fuel efficient story is a line of bull, between the yard jockeys, cranes, and the maintenance, security and staff vehicles then don't forget the jet engine they use to clear the tracks of ice and snow plus the train engines themselves That is just in one yard, now add up all of the yards scattered near every big city,,, if there was any truth in advertising, they would not be allowed to air the commercial
 
That Rotterdam location is nothing to brag about.

they are not going away either
rotterdam is Hapco Farms
which is a major potato broker
if you haul the tater
you know what a huge impact
Rotterdam has

just in time is when the customer needs it
not when its shipped
a shipment can sit in a railyard
and still be just in time
 
Railex incorporates the latest technologies with its own infrastructure and private non-stop rail service to ensure the same scheduled departure day and time every week, 52 weeks a year.
OK. This is BS. The railroads are union. The last time I looked, locomotives don't have sleeping quarters. So there is no way a train can go coast to coast non stop. They are going to stop at 2 hours and take the break that was bargained for in the collective bargaining agreement. Then 2 hours later, lunch. 2 hours after that, another break. Then 2 hours later, end of shift.

I suppose that they swap crews after the first 8 hour shift, and so on, as the train makes the way across the nation.

That doesn't sound like "non stop" to me.

. . . . . 55 car refrigerated unit trains, with the capacity to transport the equivalent of 1120 trucks of refrigerated merchandise each and every week . . . . .

OK. 1,120 trucks at 44,000lbs each equals 49,280,000lbs of freight, not counting the weight of the freight cars, the weight of the fuel to run the reefers, and the weight of the locomotives. The say they can move a ton of freight "nearly" 500 miles on a gallon of diesel (average). So 49,280,000lbs is 24,640 tons. Therefore it takes 24,640 gallons of fuel to move that load 500 miles, or 147,840 gallons to go coast to coast (3,000 miles).

That's a lot of fuel.

They also claim that over the road trucks emit more greenhouse gasses than locomotives. No way. Locomotives do not have emission control devices. And have you ever noticed just how much soot comes out of a locomotive engine? Only ocean going ships pollute worse.

Oh sure they claim to have APU's on their newer locomotives, and they shut down the large diesel engine when the train is not moving to prevent idling.

So?

That still doesn't account for all the crap that is poring out of the stacks when those babies are running wide open to get that mile long string of cars rolling, or to get them up grades.

Until locomotives are required to meet the same stringent emissions standards that heavy trucks are held to I will not accept any of their double talk about how they are a better choice than trucks.

I am not impressed.
 
OK. This is BS. The railroads are union. The last time I looked, locomotives don't have sleeping quarters. So there is no way a train can go coast to coast non stop. They are going to stop at 2 hours and take the break that was bargained for in the collective bargaining agreement. Then 2 hours later, lunch. 2 hours after that, another break. Then 2 hours later, end of shift.

I suppose that they swap crews after the first 8 hour shift, and so on, as the train makes the way across the nation.

That doesn't sound like "non stop" to me.


I know CSX is trying to get rid of the teamsters, do not know if they will be able to.
 

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