Non-sensical bitchery from another thread and MNDrivers truck

[Mike]

If you’re thinking heavy haul your rears won’t handle it. You’d need 46K rears or heavier
What people don’t understand about specking a truck for its purpose is weights and leverage
Heavy haul guys are gonna have 4.10s or 4.30s or deeper

Buddy of mine is 65,000 empty and stacked think he said two axle jeep and 2 axle booster he’d laugh his ass off if you said 2.64s are ok in heavy haul. He’s running a newer star car with a Cummins I think

These guys are running modern mills and they the ones teaching me to drive

Buddy with a ‘07 CAT says the same keep the RPMs up or you’ll tear out your diffs. He watched a driver buy a truck and within two months he was doing diffs because of box yanking style driving

Whatever. Just trying to help the guy out same as others take time to help me out it’s the flatbed way

Heavy haul, running consistently heavy and with lots of axles, you benefit from lower gearing. You are also running slower, so there is no efficiency loss by gearing low.

Flat or step that occasionally needs some flags or a permit to get over 80k, it’s pointless.

How you drive the truck is going to dictate what you are going to tear up, especially from a stop, not the gears.

 

[r3gulator3]

Heavy haul, running consistently heavy and with lots of axles, you benefit from lower gearing. You are also running slower, so there is no efficiency loss by gearing low.

Flat or step that occasionally needs some flags or a permit to get over 80k, it’s pointless.

How you drive the truck is going to dictate what you are going to tear up, especially from a stop, not the gears.

All about shock load, for the millionth time.

 

[Ontario Outlaw]

Heavy haul, running consistently heavy and with lots of axles, you benefit from lower gearing. You are also running slower, so there is no efficiency loss by gearing low.

Flat or step that occasionally needs some flags or a permit to get over 80k, it’s pointless.

How you drive the truck is going to dictate what you are going to tear up, especially from a stop, not the gears.

You still want lower (numerically higher) gears off road to keep the RPMs up easier

You either want momentum off road which usually sucks or you want high rpm to keep your diffs alive

I’ve heard this time and again from guys pulling Bs to guys pulling oversize to guys pulling flats and steps

CAT Cummins Detroit they all get driven the same OFF ROAD or you’ll tear out diffs and drivelines

 

[quillcom]

I don’t know how much they’ve changed since 2000-2001

Way better now.

I only have the check engine fault light and TCS/ABS lights staring at me in my 2013 VNlL that they can't seem to fix, now.

Ohh almost forgot, and they only had to swap out the radio once to get the check engine/AbS light to go out.

That worked for like a month.

 

[Hammer166]

You still want lower (numerically higher) gears off road to keep the RPMs up easier

You either want momentum off road which usually sucks or you want high rpm to keep your diffs alive

I’ve heard this time and again from guys pulling Bs to guys pulling oversize to guys pulling flats and steps

CAT Cummins Detroit they all get driven the same OFF ROAD or you’ll tear out diffs and drivelines

There's this amazing device that every truck is equipped with, it's called a transmission! It allows trucks with different rear end ratios to operate the same RPM band at the same speeds! Isn't that amazing!!!

There's two numbers that are important off-road, startability and gradability. Shorter rear ends help both of those numbers, and that's the biggest reason for the shorter rears in trucks that do off-road.

 

[Ontario Outlaw]

There's this amazing device that every truck is equipped with, it's called a transmission! It allows trucks with different rear end ratios to operate the same RPM band at the same speeds! Isn't that amazing!!!

There's two numbers that are important off-road, startability and gradability. Shorter rear ends help both of those numbers, and that's the biggest reason for the shorter rears in trucks that do off-road.

Shorter = lower gear? (higher numerically)

 

[Hammer166]

Shorter = lower gear? (higher numerically)

Yes.

 

[r3gulator3]

 

[Nomad1]

I think what skateboarder is saying is you need low gears so you can drive like a dumbass off road. Doing so will let you make a lot of noise and smoke so other dumbasses will notice you. Then if you do this you will be bouncing all over the place and will beat the shit out of your truck. That's the reason for no fairings and getting the 5th wheel up. Or you could take it easy and drive like you have some sense. Maybe even back up at job sites. Since you have switched over to the flatbed side you can train thousands of drivers how to back now.

 

[mndriver]

There's this amazing device that every truck is equipped with, it's called a transmission! It allows trucks with different rear end ratios to operate the same RPM band at the same speeds! Isn't that amazing!!!

There's two numbers that are important off-road, startability and gradability. Shorter rear ends help both of those numbers, and that's the biggest reason for the shorter rears in trucks that do off-road.

As I understand it,

Take your differential gear ratio and multiply it by the tallest gear you plan to operate in, like first gear, and needs to at least to 50.

so an 18 spd with 3.58 gears would be doable as the LL is like 51.3.



a 13 spd, not so much because it's closer to 12.31.


but that's why they make much better tranny's for that job like the 8LL etc.

 

[mndriver]

I think what skateboarder is saying is you need low gears so you can drive like a dumbass off road. Doing so will let you make a lot of noise and smoke so other dumbasses will notice you. Then if you do this you will be bouncing all over the place and will beat the **** out of your truck. That's the reason for no fairings and getting the 5th wheel up. Or you could take it easy and drive like you have some sense. Maybe even back up at job sites. Since you have switched over to the flatbed side you can train thousands of drivers how to back now.

Or I could revert back to my days of hauling dirt and concrete when driving off-road. Maybe even from running sugar beet and corn harvest even

 

[Ontario Outlaw]

Another reason to run as tall a 5th riser as possible

That would be one of the first things to get changed if it was my junk. Then run the 5th all the to the back of the frame

 

[Nomad1]

Or I could revert back to my days of hauling dirt and concrete when driving off-road.

I probably would lose the skirts and add some boxes though if I was you. Storage space is nice. Unless you are planning on still doing long hauls. Then you might still benefit from the aerodynamics.

 

[mndriver]

How many more boxes do I need if both sides match?


Not sure, but I think 8" is adequate

 

[r3gulator3]

How many more boxes do I need if both sides match?
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Not sure, but I think 8" is adequate

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Seriously. 2 things I would change about your truck is the stack height, and the side skirts. That’s it. I am not a fan of Volvo because I used to work on them. But if I had to drive this one that’s what I would do.

 

[mndriver]

Skirts aren't an issue because they're not the lowest point on the truck. If anything, it's a cosmetic issue that people have with them. see @Sinister comments earlier about old school and dissing someone's truck.

The stack is already on the shortlist of things to change. Right now, it's more important for me to just address important things. Like shit fuel mileage.

 

[Hammer166]

All about shock load, for the millionth time.

Shock loads, you say?

I bet this made a wee BANG!

 

[r3gulator3]

Skirts aren't an issue because they're not the lowest point on the truck. If anything, it's a cosmetic issue that people have with them. see @Sinister comments earlier about old school and dissing someone's truck.

The stack is already on the shortlist of things to change. Right now, it's more important for me to just address important things. Like **** fuel mileage.

Flatbed ain’t meant for fuel mileage. I wasn’t “dissing” you truck “dawg” simply made the statement that for me personally that’s what I’d do. And even in older days, guys would make comments like that. And I call bullshit on the no one said anything. If someone was driving a pink or purple truck. Plenty of comments got made. Especially on 19.

 

[r3gulator3]

Shock loads, you say? View attachment 53018

I bet this made a wee BANG!

I bet it did lol

 

[mndriver]

Flatbed ain’t meant for fuel mileage. I wasn’t “dissing” you truck “dawg” simply made the statement that for me personally that’s what I’d do. And even in older days, guys would make comments like that. And I call bullshit on the no one said anything. If someone was driving a pink or purple truck. Plenty of comments got made. Especially on 19.

Since I first posted this truck, you have once to make a positive comment to me about it at all.

All you and Ontario have done is cut me down over this truck.


Remember the first time Ontario got a little vacation. It was because of the b******* he pulled like he's doing in this thread as it is.