Motorists' habits spur call for tax increases


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Motorists' habits spur call for tax increases
By JOAN LOWY, Associated Press Writer Joan Lowy, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 51 mins ago Yahoo news

WASHINGTON – Motorists are driving less and buying less gasoline, which means fuel taxes aren't raising enough money to keep pace with the cost of road, bridge and transit programs.



That has the federal commission that oversees financing for transportation talking about increasing the federal fuel tax.



A 50 percent increase in gasoline and diesel fuel taxes is being urged by the commission to finance highway construction and repair until the government devises another way for motorists to pay for using public roads.



The National Commission on Surface Transportation Infrastructure Financing, a 15-member panel created by Congress, is the second group in a year to call for increasing the current 18.4 cents a gallon federal tax on gasoline and the 24.4 cents a gallon tax on diesel. State fuel taxes vary from state to state.



In a report expected in late January, members of the infrastructure financing commission say they will urge Congress to raise the gas tax by 10 cents a gallon and the diesel tax by 12 cents to 15 cents a gallon. At the same time, the commission will recommend tying the fuel tax rates to inflation.



The commission will also recommend that states raise their fuel taxes and make greater use of toll roads and fees for rush-hour driving.



Although the cost of gasoline has dropped dramatically in recent months, such tax increases could be politically treacherous for Democratic leaders in Congress. A gas tax hike was one of the reasons they lost control of the House and Senate in the 1994 elections. President-elect Barack Obama has expressed concern about raising fuel taxes in the current economic climate.



But commission members said the government must find more road and bridge building money somewhere.



"I'm not excited about a gas tax increase, but the reality is our current gas tax doesn't pay for upkeep of the system we have now," said Adrian Moore, vice president of the Reason Foundation, a libertarian think tank in Los Angeles, and a member of the highway revenue commission. "We can either let the roads go to hell or we can pay more.

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The dilemma for Congress is that highway and transit programs are dependent for revenue on fuel taxes that are not sustainable. Many Americans are driving less and switching to more fuel-efficient cars and trucks, and a shift to new fuels and technologies like plug-in hybrid electric cars will further erode gasoline sales.



According to a draft of the financing commission's recommendations, the nation needs to move to a new system that taxes motorists according to how much they use roads.



"Most if not all of the commissioners have a strong belief and commitment that we need a fundamental transformation of the current system," said commission chairman Robert Atkinson, president of the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation, a technology policy think tank in Washington.



A study by the Transportation Research Board of the National Academies estimated that the annual gap between revenues and the investment needed to improve highway and transit systems was about $105 billion in 2007, and will increase to $134 billion in 2017 under current trends.



Projected shortfalls in revenue led the National Surface Transportation Policy and Revenue Study Commission, in a report issued in January 2008, to call for an increase of as much as 40 cents a gallon in the gas tax, phased in over five years.



Charles Whittington, chairman of the American Trucking Associations, which supports a fuel tax increase as long as the money goes to highway projects, said Congress may decide to disguise a fuel tax hike as a surcharge to combat climate change.



Transportation is responsible for about a third of all U.S. carbon emissions created by burning fossil fuels. Traffic congestion wastes an estimated 2.9 billion gallons of fuel a year. Less congestion would reduce greenhouse gases and dependence on foreign oil.



"Instead of calling it a gas tax, call it a carbon tax," Whittington said.



Bottlenecks around the nation cost the trucking industry about 243 million lost truck hours and about $7.8 billion per year, according to the commission.



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yea saw that on the news this morning, This is another issue that needs addressed we pay fuel tax's at the pumps and then again quarterly.
If the trucking industry has to pay the fuel tax so should all other citizen's after all they use the motor vech. to go back and fourth to work.
To seperate a commerical Vech. by weight from all other vech. on the road is wrong.
But what really gets me going is any commerical vech. under g.v.w.80,000. is acceptable to parking and not goveren buy all laws and requirements of vech who gross 80.
sorry to all you people not involved in the trucking industry, But we are hit with tax after tax, We pay tax on roads we are not even able to use.
 
Gee imagine that,another bite taken out of our paychecks.If it isn't a fuel tax hike,they'll find some other reason to steal money from the poor tax payer.DAM CROOKS
 
I'm actually glad this got posted, it got my blood to boiling...Now I'm ready for a fight... It's the straw that broke the camels back, so to speak for me...
 
By Gosh I'm sick to death of friggen taxes, our government thinks anything they can't pay for that they will stick their hands in our pockets and take what they need.. Well right now their is a shortfall in our household income and I want to know who's DAMN pocket I can stick my hand in and just TAKE what I need to support my family... I knew this summer when people were cutting back on driving that their was going to be a shortfall of funds for our bridges and roads but it's NO SWEAT off their backs, they will just friggen take what they need....OMG I'm READY FOR A FIGHT...
 
They say they gotta raise taxes when things are going good and they say they got raise taxes when things are going bad.


They got use coming and going. :runningaround:


We can do nothing right so :wtf: .


They, the corporations, business and government caused the problems. They should pay out of their income, out of their profit. :bounce:

They want us to go to work, :headscratch:, they want us to pay for the roads that get us to their jobs, they want us to pay for fuel to get us to their jobs, and pay for cars, insurance, to get us to the jobs...........

This constant rise in taxes for things we use, crap, comes from that 'user tax' crap from Ronald Regan, along with amnesty and the other s#$% he pulled.
 
IF the government would leave stuff alone it all would work itself out..its called FREE MARKET..they choose who lives and who dies..they treat the proposed fuel tax like a sin tax so people go get green..only thing missing is there are way to little and way to expensive green alternatives..
Makes you wanna PUKE
 
Yea but one of the problems with free market is,
We need to bring Industry BACK to the U.S.
W.T.F. shop Walmart your sending money to China & Pakistan.
I'm thinking why are these towels not lasting and happen to look Made in Pakistan. Yea I know this might be off set but Pakistan one would think they could make a towel that would last alittle. I now went through all my towels and made rags out of every one not made in the U.S.A.
Come to think of it even a 2nd grader can make towels so this week I'm off to the fabric store and will make my own. And I bet they will out last that crap..............
 
a free market without oversight just creates a free for all as seen in the past ten years actually Regan started deregulation and then Bush 1 let it continue, then Clinton put it into high gear, and Bush 2 kickied it into overdrive and big business figured out that they could do what they want and what happened? They got greedy and when they couldn't raise the price of their goods and services, they started to cook the books, to make even more money that they could put into their bulging pockets.
There is an old saying that goes" locks only work to keep honest people honest",
well regulation works to keep honest business people honest and since we don't have effective regulations even the once honest ones are now fleecing everyone they can!
 
Sooo we need a BIG government..???
Regulate everything..and look over everbodys shoulder? And IF they profit from a sceam they look the other way..50 billion just got stolen right under their nose..as long as he paid taxes on it..:pissed: letting the blind lead the blind..
Every business that goes out of business will be replaced sometimes..with better business..
 
Yea but one of the problems with free market is,
We need to bring Industry BACK to the U.S.
W.T.F. shop Walmart your sending money to China & Pakistan.
I'm thinking why are these towels not lasting and happen to look Made in Pakistan. Yea I know this might be off set but Pakistan one would think they could make a towel that would last alittle. I now went through all my towels and made rags out of every one not made in the U.S.A.
Come to think of it even a 2nd grader can make towels so this week I'm off to the fabric store and will make my own. And I bet they will out last that crap..............
While you at it make me a few:whistle: bet there is a market for great towels..heck you might get rich!!:popcorn::clap:
 
Sooo we need a BIG government..???
Regulate everything..and look over everbodys shoulder? And IF they profit from a sceam they look the other way..50 billion just got stolen right under their nose..as long as he paid taxes on it..:pissed: letting the blind lead the blind..
Every business that goes out of business will be replaced sometimes..with better business..

Don't misunderstand the need for regulations within our business sectors. There were excellent regulations in place addressing this. Our government over the past 30 years has undone what was in place, allowing the destruction we have experienced recently. We have allowed this by becoming complacent as a nation. And now we are becoming blind to the fact that regulations are needed...just not the ones this current government of ours is trying to make us believe are needed. They have destroyed what was in place, and continue to mask that destructive action with finger pointing and blame.

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Don't misunderstand the need for regulations within our business sectors. There were excellent regulations in place addressing this. Our government over the past 30 years has undone what was in place, allowing the destruction we have experienced recently. We have allowed this by becoming complacent as a nation. And now we are becoming blind to the fact that regulations are needed...just not the ones this current government of ours is trying to make us believe are needed. They have destroyed what was in place, and continue to mask that destructive action with finger pointing and blame.

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Who is going to watch the watchers?? I think they ALL are crooked..No regulation works if it is not enforced ..(corruption)
 
a good example of a needed regulation is the TRUCC act, a lot of owner/operators are paid percentage,the problem in the industry is the brokers use their gross not the gross the customer actually paid and there is no real way to tell if the broker is honest or not.

so a regulation that would require the brokers to honestly state that actual gross would give the O/o not only the proper figures to figure out if they are being ripped off but in the TRUCC act it also requires the person paying the fuel to recieve 100% of any surcharge paid.

Don't you think honesty and transparency in business transactions should be the norm and not the exception??

That is just one example of many, if there was some regulation in other businesses we wouldn't have banks getting in so deep that the need a bailout, auto industries that get in so deep that they need a bailout, fraudulent stock brokers that can create ponzi schemes that don't get revealed until they have ripped people off to the tune of at leas 50 BILLION, states the spend money on sports stadiums and then after the money is spent cannot inform the public that they cannot fix the roads without huge increases in taxes, there are things that sane regulation needs to be done at least until the human race eradicates lying,cheating and stealing.
 
a good example of a needed regulation is the TRUCC act, a lot of owner/operators are paid percentage,the problem in the industry is the brokers use their gross not the gross the customer actually paid and there is no real way to tell if the broker is honest or not.

so a regulation that would require the brokers to honestly state that actual gross would give the O/o not only the proper figures to figure out if they are being ripped off but in the TRUCC act it also requires the person paying the fuel to recieve 100% of any surcharge paid.

Don't you think honesty and transparency in business transactions should be the norm and not the exception??

That is just one example of many, if there was some regulation in other businesses we wouldn't have banks getting in so deep that the need a bailout, auto industries that get in so deep that they need a bailout, fraudulent stock brokers that can create ponzi schemes that don't get revealed until they have ripped people off to the tune of at leas 50 BILLION, states the spend money on sports stadiums and then after the money is spent cannot inform the public that they cannot fix the roads without huge increases in taxes, there are things that sane regulation needs to be done at least until the human race eradicates lying,cheating and stealing.
Well my problem is I don't trust anybody anymore..I want the times back when a handshake was a contract..transparency is good..but don't help if the numbers are fixed..and Maddof was right under the nose of the FCC..only his sister was married to an former Fcc person..co insitence? Maybe..
I do not like the thought of being regulated..this is why we left germany..
Now its almost as bad over here..Gov tells you where to smoke where not to..what to plant where to plant and how to punish your kids..well I don't like it!!
 
Who is going to watch the watchers?? I think they ALL are crooked..No regulation works if it is not enforced ..(corruption)

I will elaborate a little. The regulations, which were working very well, were put in place after the sub-prime meltdown in the 20's...which led right into the great depression. Until our government went and changed what was put in place...over the past 3 decades...our country was protected by the previous existing regulations and the agencies over-seeing those regulations.

Now I believe this was done to remove the power these agencies held. Attempting to place these powers in the hands of a select few, which have a self-serving agenda contrary to the best interest of American citizens.

Regulations are needed. Our history shows this to be true. But they must be determined strictly in the best interest of American citizens...not corporate or self-serving entities. Gearjammer's example of the TRUCC act is perfect. This is a regulation which is in the best interest of American citizens (truckers), not the corporates. Why do you think it's near impossible to get them to bring this bill to full committee. And know this...it's Pelosi which decides when that bill will come before full committee in the House, and Reid in the Senate. They are all corrupt and ignorant to the best interest of American citizens. And I will continue to believe this until I see one of them come before the citizens and tell us the truth.

Now we can sit and debate this forever and a day. The fact remains we have a corrupt government with a detrimental agenda to the American citizens. And this will not stop until we, as a nation, put a stop to it.

Unite and act...

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a good example of a needed regulation is the TRUCC act, a lot of owner/operators are paid percentage,the problem in the industry is the brokers use their gross not the gross the customer actually paid and there is no real way to tell if the broker is honest or not.

so a regulation that would require the brokers to honestly state that actual gross would give the O/o not only the proper figures to figure out if they are being ripped off but in the TRUCC act it also requires the person paying the fuel to recieve 100% of any surcharge paid.

Don't you think honesty and transparency in business transactions should be the norm and not the exception??

That is just one example of many, if there was some regulation in other businesses we wouldn't have banks getting in so deep that the need a bailout, auto industries that get in so deep that they need a bailout, fraudulent stock brokers that can create ponzi schemes that don't get revealed until they have ripped people off to the tune of at leas 50 BILLION, states the spend money on sports stadiums and then after the money is spent cannot inform the public that they cannot fix the roads without huge increases in taxes, there are things that sane regulation needs to be done at least until the human race eradicates lying,cheating and stealing.

Very well put, Gearjammer.

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Sooo we need a BIG government..???
Regulate everything..and look over everbodys shoulder? And IF they profit from a sceam they look the other way..50 billion just got stolen right under their nose..as long as he paid taxes on it..:pissed: letting the blind lead the blind..
Every business that goes out of business will be replaced sometimes..with better business..


They look the other way because of lack of laws, laws with teeth. Deregulation is the reason for the $50 billion dollar's lost. Not enough staff.

DEREGULATION HAS BEEN THE DOWN FALL OF THIS COUNTRY.

YES. We need big government to police the capitalist criminals, can't you see what has happened since deregulation, a euphemism for no laws for business. American citizens have been crucified. To name a couple:


  • jobs to china
  • Mexican Invasion
  • citizens losing their life savings

This is bad, very bad stuff.


Business's are being replaced by what?

Replaced with:

  • with fast food places, staffed with Mexicans.

  • construction business's do the same, hire Mexicans.

  • Tattoo shops

  • message parlor's

  • strip joints

  • porn sites

  • casino's

  • Staples

  • Walmarts

  • Biglots

  • Prisons

The business's of America. :biglaugh:

This what I'm seeing. What are you seeing? :sweat:

I could just delet this the last posts are covering it pretty good. But since I wrote all that stuff I'll just leave it.
 
They look the other way because of lack of laws, laws with teeth. Deregulation is the reason for the $50 billion dollar's lost. Not enough staff.

DEREGULATION HAS BEEN THE DOWN FALL OF THIS COUNTRY.

YES. We need big government to police the capitalist criminals, can't you see what has happened since deregulation, a euphemism for no laws for business. American citizens have been crucified. To name a couple:


  • jobs to china
  • Mexican Invasion
  • citizens losing their life savings
This is bad, very bad stuff.


Business's are being replaced by what?

Replaced with:

  • with fast food places, staffed with Mexicans.
  • construction business's do the same, hire Mexicans.
  • Tattoo shops
  • message parlor's
  • strip joints
  • porn sites
  • casino's
  • Staples
  • Walmarts
  • Biglots
  • Prisons
The business's of America. :biglaugh:

This what I'm seeing. What are you seeing? :sweat:

I could just delet this the last posts are covering it pretty good. But since I wrote all that stuff I'll just leave it.
Well I believe the money was lost because of corruption..there where many flags raised..nobody did a darn thing..prob been paid off or who knows..
Regulation with teeth..hmmm...we would need the RIGHT people..New people, honest people..people with principles..
I just believe crooks always find loop holes..
 

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