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Walmart starts imposing new penalties

mosinee dave

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Walmart will.impose new penalties if delivering to early , late deliveries, and if the load is not separated on pallets as told to shipper by them. So if you run out of time on your logs due to sercom stances beyond your control co will get a fine. The sorting of pallets I AAM sure that will be the shippers penalty seen ng most loads driver is not allowed on dock but I am sure you will.need to pay the penalty before you leave? Glad I only haul a couple a loads a year to be Walmart . A few times I have been 24 hrs early and they unloaded it when they're could work it in. I never was late. Even a weather event would not be a excuse. Let the big mega carrieors battle Walmart. I would like to hear the conversations between the two .Sounds like Walmart is making it harder to justify working for them.
 
They want outside fleets to adhere to the same 95% level of service self imposed on private fleet.

I have not heard about the pallet deal. But the on time stuff is to streamline our freight flow. We do not want it on the yard, dock, or shelf in the steel. Our optimum load comes in and is loaded straight to the DTS (Door to Store @Duck ) area where they build store loads.

Dog food and water are horrible about loading us up early on orders. That is inventory we have to pay for and store at our expense. And yes PF is guilty as well and we are not being allowed to do it anymore.


The Ti-Hi deal has always been a requirement for vendors unless to maximize cube there is an agreement.




Buckle up folks. This is just one of the changes coming. Good news is there is a push from on high to pull stuff off inbound in under 15 minutes according to a couple warehouse guys. That is RDC but the HVDCs are being told as well with allowances for cold chain verification and such.
 
They want outside fleets to adhere to the same 95% level of service self imposed on private fleet.
Swift's HVDC to store contract is 99.5% service level. WM gets pissy if they drop below that.
 
The auto assembly plants have been turning early drivers away ever since they went JIT. I am not sure if they fine the company or not, But they only want you there in the window they assigned to you.

The Walmart deal may seem harsh or make no sense, But if you understand that it goes in one side of the building and right out the other side (ideally) then it makes a bit more sense.
 
Swift's HVDC to store contract is 99.5% service level. WM gets pissy if they drop below that.
Yeah. But the new Honcho wants inbound at the same level.

He was quoted as saying we have the finest distribution system of the 20th Century:oops:

Most of those contracts have had an increase of 10-20% and a tightening on backhauls. No more free trailers coming back if avoidable. Not sure of the impact out west. But 6072,6055, 6095, 6062, 7019 are scrambling to keep up. Well 7019 is always a special snow flake but the rest were solid until now.
 
Yeah I know. And believe it or not upper management knows. I am not in the loop on the internal dealings at HVDCS on a daily basis, however I know the new Honcho wants to eliminate paper billing, the antiquated inbound process (It takes us like .5 man hours per PO to inbound freight.) , any holding time at the DC.

In an ideal world as they take it off your truck it will be scanned straight to the door to store trailer.

Right now they have to pull it all off, another clerk checks the PO's and prints labels, another then takes the labels and affixed them to the freight (there may be a ti-hi breakdown before that), another clerk then scans in the labels, and a lift operator then scans them into the steel, then an order puller scans them into the store po, then the loader scans them onto the store delivery trailer...........

I have heard the new plans include digital pos with vendors affixing labels, no more paper bols, ti hi mandates on every po. On time delivery so freight flow is consistent........



They are looking at completely restructuring the inbound process at all DC'S. No idea if it will help or not but it sure as hell can not hurt.
 
I have heard the new plans include digital pos with vendors affixing labels, no more paper bols, ti hi mandates on every po. On time delivery so freight flow is consistent........

Doesn't sound too grounded in the real world.

For a trailer load of a single product or products segregated onto single pallets - sure.

General Mills loads that have 5000 cases of 150 different products are a different animal. Loads like that are still going to be sorted and counted - unless high kahuna doesn't mind paying for a lot more pallets getting moved around.

Eliminating detention charges means having enough labor available to actually provide an efficient unloading process.
 
I think their intentions is to work with vendors to have PO's segregated before they get here like Coke, Pepsi, Cumberland Swan, Little Debbies, and most of our DSD vendors already do.

We have a fair amount that do this now. Cumberland Swan, and P&G already send it into our DC's that way. We need to use the labor more wisely in their opinion. Getting it off the truck is usually quick, the delays come when the process kills time now having four different clerks doing something a quick hand scanner should accomplish.
 
Right.

Layer: 20 cases product A on a pallet.

Layer: 50 cases product B on a pallet.

Layer: 213 cases product C on a pallet.

Layer: 45 cases product D on a pallet.

Etc...


Gonna be paying for an awful lot of pallets, and not much load.
 
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Pallet breakdowns need to be done I get that, sending 50 pallets with the exact cases per, makes no sense.

Detaining the driver during count and break down makes no sense. Unload it, Send the driver on his way.
These are great times we are living in. Any discrepancy on the count can be handled by fax or E-mail.

It is not like the driver can be on the dock or can even pull 12 cases of missing product out of their ass :stare1:
 
Pallet breakdowns need to be done I get that, sending 50 pallets with the exact cases per, makes no sense.

Detaining the driver during count and break down makes no sense. Unload it, Send the driver on his way.
These are great times we are living in. Any discrepancy on the count can be handled by fax or E-mail.

It is not like the driver can be on the dock or can even pull 12 cases of missing product out of their ass :stare1:
Which would encourage pilfering the load by some low lifes...

A carrier has legal recourse to receivers claims as long as they are backed into a dock that evaporate as soon as the driver pulls away. Simarily, the carrier has certain protections as long as the a continuous seal record is available.

Pulling in, dumping the stuff on the dock without a written record via the Bill of Lading is inviting a claim. A digital record including receiving notes and electronic signatures for the seal and delivery would accomplish the same purpose. However, without a valid count, the carrier is leaving themselves open for bogus claims through theft.

The Law Office of Seaton & Husk, LP

Claims for loss and damage of regulated commodity is governed by the regulations published at 49 C.F.R. §370. Claims for loss, damage, or overage should be filed in writing. The bill of lading together with documentation of the destination market value of the goods should be included. Most bills of lading specify that the claim must be filed within 9 months. A shipper has 2 years after the claim is denied to file a suit to recover its loss.

The Carmack Amendment, 49 U.S.C. §14706, provides the shipper with the statutory remedy which preempts state law remedies. Subject to the exceptions noted herein, if a shipper can prove that the carrier received the shipment in good condition and delivered it short or damaged, the carrier is liable for the loss regardless of whether the shipper can prove the carrier was negligent. As a practical matter, the statute makes the notations entered on the bill of lading at time of pickup and delivery particularly important. A clear bill of lading at time of pickup accompanied by a bill of lading noting shortage or damage creates a presumption of carrier liability which must be overcome by carrier proof.

Importantly, the statute and its preemptive effect works to the benefit of the carrier with respect to so-called special or consequential damages. Under Carmack and the common law, a carrier is not liable for damages which are not reasonably foreseeable. Carriers ordinarily are not required to deliver in time to meet any specific market and unless the carrier assumes greater liability by contract, it is not required to pay for air express replacement parts, waiting construction crews, stopped assembly lines, etc.

There are 5 common law exceptions to carrier liability:

(1) act or default of shipper;
(2) an act of God;
(3) the public enemy;
(4) the "public authority"; or
(5) the inherent vice of the commodity.

The act of default of shipper is most often raised when the carrier claims the lading was improperly packaged to withstand the ordinary perils of transport or when the carrier claims that the shipper improperly blocked or braced the shipment (see shipper load and count, infra).

The act of God defense is applicable only when a hurricane, tornado, flood, mud slide or other calamity beyond the carrier's control is the proximate cause of the loss or damage claimed.

The public enemy exception has rarely been used in the United States or Canada because it applies only to acts of military forces or possibly paramilitary insurgency. The courts have declined to classify thieves, robbers, or rioters as "public enemies" for purposes of this exception and to date, there has been no finding that the organized cargo thefts in Miami or Los Angeles can operate to excuse a carrier from liability. The Public Authority exception includes policy action such as quarantines, road closures, etc.

Finally, a substantial amount of cargo claims litigation revolves around the shipper load and count exception in the Bill of Lading Act. See 49 U.S.C. §80113. This statutory provision says that a carrier is not liable for loss and damage (1) when the goods are loaded by the shipper, (2) when the bill notes "shipper's weight, load and count" or words of similar meaning, and (3) when the carrier does not know whether any part of the goods were received or conformed to that description.

Similarly, carriers are not liable for damage resulting from improper loading when the shipper loads the goods and words such as, "Shipper's weight, load and count" indicate that fact.

The shipper load and count provision should apply to all situations in which the shipper loads a spotted trailer and the carrier is unable to verify the count or the condition of the load. To be relieved of liability for short count at destination, the carrier needs to ensure that the shipment is sealed at point of origin before the truck leaves the dock, and that the term "SLC" or other clear language of shipper liability is included.

In our practice, we find that shortages and thefts of high value goods are the most troublesome cargo issues facing our clients. Only by careful use of the shipper load and count provisions, the purchase of broadly worded cargo coverage, and coextensive release rates, can carriers adequately protect themselves against significant exposure if high value items are handled.

The inherent vice defense has been defined in the landmark Missouri Pacific R.R. Co. v. Elmore & Stahl, 377 U.S. 134 (1964) case as "any existing defense, disease, decay, or other inherent nature of commodity which will cause it to deteriorate with a lapse of time."
 
Which would encourage pilfering the load by some low lifes...

A carrier has legal recourse to receivers claims as long as they are backed into a dock that evaporate as soon as the driver pulls away. Simarily, the carrier has certain protections as long as the a continuous seal record is available.

Pulling in, dumping the stuff on the dock without a written record via the Bill of Lading is inviting a claim. A digital record including receiving notes and electronic signatures for the seal and delivery would accomplish the same purpose. However, without a valid count, the carrier is leaving themselves open for bogus claims through theft.

The Law Office of Seaton & Husk, LP

Claims for loss and damage of regulated commodity is governed by the regulations published at 49 C.F.R. §370. Claims for loss, damage, or overage should be filed in writing. The bill of lading together with documentation of the destination market value of the goods should be included. Most bills of lading specify that the claim must be filed within 9 months. A shipper has 2 years after the claim is denied to file a suit to recover its loss.

The Carmack Amendment, 49 U.S.C. §14706, provides the shipper with the statutory remedy which preempts state law remedies. Subject to the exceptions noted herein, if a shipper can prove that the carrier received the shipment in good condition and delivered it short or damaged, the carrier is liable for the loss regardless of whether the shipper can prove the carrier was negligent. As a practical matter, the statute makes the notations entered on the bill of lading at time of pickup and delivery particularly important. A clear bill of lading at time of pickup accompanied by a bill of lading noting shortage or damage creates a presumption of carrier liability which must be overcome by carrier proof.

Importantly, the statute and its preemptive effect works to the benefit of the carrier with respect to so-called special or consequential damages. Under Carmack and the common law, a carrier is not liable for damages which are not reasonably foreseeable. Carriers ordinarily are not required to deliver in time to meet any specific market and unless the carrier assumes greater liability by contract, it is not required to pay for air express replacement parts, waiting construction crews, stopped assembly lines, etc.

There are 5 common law exceptions to carrier liability:

(1) act or default of shipper;
(2) an act of God;
(3) the public enemy;
(4) the "public authority"; or
(5) the inherent vice of the commodity.

The act of default of shipper is most often raised when the carrier claims the lading was improperly packaged to withstand the ordinary perils of transport or when the carrier claims that the shipper improperly blocked or braced the shipment (see shipper load and count, infra).

The act of God defense is applicable only when a hurricane, tornado, flood, mud slide or other calamity beyond the carrier's control is the proximate cause of the loss or damage claimed.

The public enemy exception has rarely been used in the United States or Canada because it applies only to acts of military forces or possibly paramilitary insurgency. The courts have declined to classify thieves, robbers, or rioters as "public enemies" for purposes of this exception and to date, there has been no finding that the organized cargo thefts in Miami or Los Angeles can operate to excuse a carrier from liability. The Public Authority exception includes policy action such as quarantines, road closures, etc.

Finally, a substantial amount of cargo claims litigation revolves around the shipper load and count exception in the Bill of Lading Act. See 49 U.S.C. §80113. This statutory provision says that a carrier is not liable for loss and damage (1) when the goods are loaded by the shipper, (2) when the bill notes "shipper's weight, load and count" or words of similar meaning, and (3) when the carrier does not know whether any part of the goods were received or conformed to that description.

Similarly, carriers are not liable for damage resulting from improper loading when the shipper loads the goods and words such as, "Shipper's weight, load and count" indicate that fact.

The shipper load and count provision should apply to all situations in which the shipper loads a spotted trailer and the carrier is unable to verify the count or the condition of the load. To be relieved of liability for short count at destination, the carrier needs to ensure that the shipment is sealed at point of origin before the truck leaves the dock, and that the term "SLC" or other clear language of shipper liability is included.

In our practice, we find that shortages and thefts of high value goods are the most troublesome cargo issues facing our clients. Only by careful use of the shipper load and count provisions, the purchase of broadly worded cargo coverage, and coextensive release rates, can carriers adequately protect themselves against significant exposure if high value items are handled.

The inherent vice defense has been defined in the landmark Missouri Pacific R.R. Co. v. Elmore & Stahl, 377 U.S. 134 (1964) case as "any existing defense, disease, decay, or other inherent nature of commodity which will cause it to deteriorate with a lapse of time."
Wow that is a whole lot of legalese shit that I ain't never going to read:thumbsup:
 
Right.

Layer: 20 cases product A on a pallet.

Layer: 50 cases product B on a pallet.

Layer: 213 cases product C on a pallet.

Layer: 45 cases product D on a pallet.

Etc...


Gonna be laying for an awful lot of pallets, and not much load.

Pallet breakdowns need to be done I get that, sending 50 pallets with the exact cases per, makes no sense.

It is being done now. The amount of CHEP pallets we rent/lease/buy (or however that is done) is mind boggling. We have loads now that are zoned (set up for certain aisles) that will say 30 pallet positions but have 60-70 pallets on them double stacked. A lot of water will have a cube of cereal on top, chemicals will have diapers and paper on top etc etc etc

We do it out of the DC's. There will be a push for them to come in that way according to scuttle butt in management.
 
It arrives at the store on one pallet with all the product needed for a department. A case of this 4 cases of that.

I feel I can now comment on Walmart, Being as I have been doing the self check out for 3 weeks now and I feel like Iam team member :biglaugh:
 
Wow that is a whole lot of legalese **** that I ain't never going to read:thumbsup:
It says only a dumbazz would dump a load and leave.

:rolleyes:

It is being done now. The amount of CHEP pallets we rent/lease/buy (or however that is done) is mind boggling. We have loads now that are zoned (set up for certain aisles) that will say 30 pallet positions but have 60-70 pallets on them double stacked. A lot of water will have a cube of cereal on top, chemicals will have diapers and paper on top etc etc etc

We do it out of the DC's. There will be a push for them to come in that way according to scuttle butt in management.

I'm thinking about inbound loads to the DC. Providing loads with pallet breakdown done by shippers is going to require a lot more truckloads coming into the DC.
 
It arrives at the store on one pallet with all the product needed for a department. A case of this 4 cases of that.

I feel I can now comment on Walmart, Being as I have been doing the self check out for 3 weeks now and I feel like Iam team member :biglaugh:

Sort of. They have some areas are always multiple pallets. Paper products, pet foods, bottled water..........but yeah they have to down stack a lot of stuff that is all divided up to go where chemicals go, paper, baby stuff, dog food, sauces and mixes............
 

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