Tesla names new head of trucking division as the company nears its first Semi deliveries

[Mike]

In a regulatory filing dated March 11, Tesla said it had appointed Jerome Guillen, who had served as Tesla's president of automotive since 2018, to lead the division.

Guillen has worked at Tesla in various leadership roles since 2010, according to his LinkedIn profile. Starting in January 2016, he assumed the role of vice president of trucking and programs, leading the Tesla Semi project.

"As Tesla prepares to enter the critical heavy trucks market for the first time, Mr. Guillen will now leverage his extensive background in this industry to focus on and lead all aspects of the Tesla Semi program," the company said in the filing.

Tesla unveiled the Semi, a battery-powered class 8 truck, in 2017 to much fanfare. But its production has been postponed several times since. Tesla initially eyed 2019 for the first deliveries and later pushed production to 2020 and finally to 2021.

Tesla names new head of trucking division as the company nears its first Semi deliveries

Long-time Tesla executive Jerome Guillen is moving to head the EV maker's heavy trucking division, according to a regulatory filing.

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[Mike]

So, are we going to see Tesla trucks being bought and hauling freight this year?

 

[Electric Chicken]

So, are we going to see Tesla trucks being bought and hauling freight this year?

Absolutely maybe!

 

[ShooterK2]

Have they built enough charging stations for this to even be considered? If we have any semi truck charging stations around here, I don’t know about them. And I’ve never, ever seen even a car charging station that wasn’t on the main interstate.

 

[Electric Chicken]

Have they built enough charging stations for this to even be considered? If we have any semi truck charging stations around here, I don’t know about them. And I’ve never, ever seen even a car charging station that wasn’t on the main interstate.

They'll convert all those IdleAirs.

 

[Sinister]

So, are we going to see Tesla trucks being bought and hauling freight this year?

I think the vocations for these are going to be quite limited at first.

Very localized, yard trucks, things I've that. The latest podcast I listened to with Elon ans Joe Rogan, Elon said that most trucking is fairly localized so that's what Tesla Semi is aimed at.

 

[Hammer166]

I think the vocations for these are going to be quite limited at first.

Very localized, yard trucks, things I've that. The latest podcast I listened to with Elon ans Joe Rogan, Elon said that most trucking is fairly localized so that's what Tesla Semi is aimed at.

Terrain will limit them in many areas, too. It's fine to say you have a 500-mile range, but that's across the prairie. They should really talk about horsepower-hours. It's hard to justify an electric when they'll need recharging in Reno after leaving the Bay area.

But they'll soon make big inroads into local work.

 

[Sinister]

Terrain will limit them in many areas, too. It's fine to say you have a 500-mile range, but that's across the prairie. They should really talk about horsepower-hours. It's hard to justify an electric when they'll need recharging in Reno after leaving the Bay area.

But they'll soon make big inroads into local work.

Yeah. Even the prolonged test they did out of the Nevada gigafactory was pretty limited in scope.

 

[Mike]

I think the vocations for these are going to be quite limited at first.

Very localized, yard trucks, things I've that. The latest podcast I listened to with Elon ans Joe Rogan, Elon said that most trucking is fairly localized so that's what Tesla Semi is aimed at.

Going to be interested to see what they roll out.

I say interesting because Elon said not too long ago that these trucks were going to take longer than expected, and seemed to be putting them on the back burner to focus on SpaceX.

As soon as we had an administration change, I think he and the rest of the green energy truck folks, Nikola included, got super busy in the marketing department, and suddenly they all have things that are almost ready to go.

Really ready to go? Or, do they see dollar signs from an upcoming infrastructure deal?

The Nikola truck is supposedly right around the corner as well, they are testing the hell out of it now.

 

[Sinister]

SpaceX and Tesla Motors and The Boring Company and that brain link thing are all separate companies.

If you want to launch something into space, SpaceX has the linehaul rates posted right on the website.

As far as Tesla semi appearing everywhere tomorrow it's not happening. Elon himself will tell you that. The greatest stumbling block to electric vehicles is simply range. For semis I would imagine heat would be an issue too. I haven't really followed Tesla semi very much. The infrastructure just isn't there. It won't be for a long time.

Some of the features on the Tesla cars are nothing shirt of astounding though.

Some of the things he's included in them should have been done ages ago by the big three, but they're simply not interested in them because of profit motive.

Theres a lot of hinky shit that happens with crash ratings too. For example, the "star rating" of a vehicles safety is directly related to its size. Its perfectly legal to sell a 1 star four door sedan.

But now have it slam into a 5 star compact.

Physics is going to win.

 

[Mike]

SpaceX and Tesla Motors and The Boring Company and that brain link thing are all separate companies.

If you want to launch something into space, SpaceX has the linehaul rates posted right on the website.

As far as Tesla semi appearing everywhere tomorrow it's not happening. Elon himself will tell you that. The greatest stumbling block to electric vehicles is simply range. For semis I would imagine heat would be an issue too. I haven't really followed Tesla semi very much. The infrastructure just isn't there. It won't be for a long time.

Right, that is why I mentioned Elon tweeting a while back that the trucks were further off than anticipated because it was a more difficult task than envisioned. Basically said it was going on the backburner as far as development.

Couple months later, Tesla has an ad out hiring for truck assembly workers and saying the trucks would be available very soon. Something pushed this venture back to the front, and I think it was the potential of money flowing his way. Wasn't much of that available in the past few years.

 

[Sinister]

I'm not sure we're supposed to take his Twitter feed that seriously. Though people do tend to lose their shit when he tweets something that makes the financial markets twitch.

On that note I still haven't figured out the crypto currency thing.

 

[Mike]

I'm not sure we're supposed to take his Twitter feed that seriously. Though people do tend to lose their shit when he tweets something that makes the financial markets twitch.

On that note I still haven't figured out the crypto currency thing.

Elon is a must follow on the Twitter.

 

[Sinister]

Elon is a must follow on the Twitter.

Starship is the largest flying object ever made.

I always thought it was just another rocket. The cameras showing it explode when it tries to land must be really far away. It has twice the thrust of the Saturn V they used to launch things to the moon.

You should have listened to that podcast I texted you.

You were probably busy listening to Kevin Rutherford telling you you should be driving a cracker box with steel wheels, manual window cranks and no A/C, while babbling incoherently to yourself about oil samples.

In that podcast they brought up truck platoons again. For more long distance trucking. He says that technology is fairly easy as it's already been done but again the practical applications are limited.

 

[Mike]

You should have listened to that podcast I texted you.

You were probably busy listening to Kevin Rutherford telling you you should be driving a cracker box with steel wheels, manual window cranks and no A/C, while babbling incoherently to yourself about oil samples.

In that podcast they brought up truck platoons again. For more long distance trucking. He says that technology is fairly easy as it's already been done but again the practical applications are limited.

I think you overspammed me with videos that I must watch, and I gave up on watching.....

 

[Electric Chicken]

Rail got some battery powered yard trucks.

Haven't seen one move yet. Not sure what they're waiting for. The batteries? Charger installation? *shrug*

Funny to have all that money just sitting.

 

[Duck]

Rail got some battery powered yard trucks.

Haven't seen one move yet. Not sure what they're waiting for. The batteries? Charger installation? *shrug*

Funny to have all that money just sitting.

Maybe they're waiting for the electric company to upgrade their service so they can plug in the chargers.



Can you imagine if they had electric trucks capable of a typical 650 miles a day (loaded at gross, with wind) and they all charged at night at the same time at something like a converted Idle-Aire facility? To deliver the amount of energy required to move a hundred trucks for a day, over an 8-10 hour charge period.. That's some very serious power requirements.

 

[Hammer166]

Maybe they're waiting for the electric company to upgrade their service so they can plug in the chargers.



Can you imagine if they had electric trucks capable of a typical 650 miles a day (loaded at gross, with wind) and they all charged at night at the same time at something like a converted Idle-Aire facility? To deliver the amount of energy required to move a hundred trucks for a day, over an 8-10 hour charge period.. That's some very serious power requirements.

Just ballpark numbers, but you're looking at roughly 2 Mw per truck. That's figuring 250 hp for 10 hours.

 

[Duck]

Just ballpark numbers, but you're looking at roughly 2 Mw per truck. That's figuring 250 hp for 10 hours.

That 1 hp = 750 watts thing.. Is a mathematical conversion, not how much power it takes to run an average 1 hp motor, correct?

I bet with losses it's significantly more than 2 mw

187,590 watts (for ten hours) is the number I came to. But that's not accounting for losses in transfer, storage and use. I have no idea how to even estimate for that.

 

[Hammer166]

That 1 hp = 750 watts thing.. Is a mathematical conversion, not how much power it takes to run an average 1 hp motor, correct?

I bet with losses it's significantly more than 2 mw

187,590 watts (for ten hours) is the number I came to. But that's not accounting for losses in transfer, storage and use. I have no idea how to even estimate for that.

Yes, I just did a straight conversion. 2500 hp = 1.86 Mw.

You can figure on a minimum of 10% charging losses, and likely higher.