Oversize or Wide Load hauling basics...

Bored Insane

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My apologies if this topic has come up recently (I'm sure it has before). I did see a load but it was oversized, but I have no idea if I can even try one.

IF the load is only oversized, it doesn't require a pilot car or police escort, but it still requires permit for each state?

Is it just matter of registering each state and checking the low bridge or width requirement?

Thanks for any info...
 
If the load exceeds any dimension (13'6,8'6, 80,000) then each state you travel thru will require a permit. Some may also require county/city permits.
 
My apologies if this topic has come up recently (I'm sure it has before). I did see a load but it was oversized, but I have no idea if I can even try one.

IF the load is only oversized, it doesn't require a pilot car or police escort, but it still requires permit for each state?

Is it just matter of registering each state and checking the low bridge or width requirement?

Thanks for any info...

Hey Bored Insane,

I've used oversize.io it's a platform that will calculate the basic requirements and pricing that you will need, quite faster then using the books or pdf's.
 
I've been working with this website.
Heavy Haul Trucking : Heavy Loads, We Got You Covered

And setting my company up with this permit/escort business.

WCS Permits & Pilot Cars - Oversize Load Permits

Right out of the gate with open deck, my first 15 loads are all over size hay.

Because of the North Dakota and South Dakota droughts I was able to get the MN governor to waive the permit and hos requirement to match North and South Dakota executive orders.

It was cool working with the respective state permitting agencies and learning how willing they are to help you out.

Don't be afraid to stop in, call or otherwise talk to the Port of entry folks. I've always found them quite helpful with compliance issues.
 
The biggy will be whether or not it is a "divisible load". If it is? It won't likely get permitted.

But remember, for every rule, there's an exception. And I'm learning OD/os is no different.
 
If the load exceeds any dimension (13'6,8'6, 80,000) then each state you travel thru will require a permit. Some may also require county/city permits.
Not quite true. Maybe on a tandem, but a few states let you axle more than 80K gross without permits. And some like FL allow more than 34K on a closed tandem.
It's too bad it wasn't one set of rules for every state.
 
The biggy will be whether or not it is a "divisible load". If it is? It won't likely get permitted.

But remember, for every rule, there's an exception. And I'm learning OD/os is no different.
I would think with those bails they would permit them for width just fine because what the machine makes it is what it is. This is just going off the fact I see lots of oversize bail loads......"assuming"

What you would not be able to do is permit an overweight load of them because the logical argument would be you can take a couple off to make it legal so we're not permitting that......"divisible load"
 
Some states out here on the west coast allow you to have a yearly overweight divisible permit as well. Guy down the way has a Pete pulling a rather nice B-train and he's permitted to 129k or something like that year-round. Don't quote me on it, but if I recall right OR/ID/MT/WY/NV/UT/AZ/NM are all kosher with it, it's just permits with all of them.
 
Usually we never bothered unless going someplace where they might actually look like into a big city.

But stuff like Ag Implements that go to the boonies? Nah.
 
I haven’t ever gotten a city permit but I haven’t hauled they a city that requires them to my knowledge. But most of my od loads are ag equipment or plate steel going to the boonies.
 
I haven’t ever gotten a city permit but I haven’t hauled they a city that requires them to my knowledge. But most of my od loads are ag equipment or plate steel going to the boonies.


Yeah and @r3gulator3 works for a place that does everything right.

When we started with ethanol until the stuff got really big, many times we did nothing at all and just ran at night. Never once got popped.

I say that because as I’m driving home, I’m pretty sure my old boss just passed me in his RV doing like 90. I understand they just finished up a wind job someplace...
 
Yeah and @r3gulator3 works for a place that does everything right.

When we started with ethanol until the stuff got really big, many times we did nothing at all and just ran at night. Never once got popped.

I say that because as I’m driving home, I’m pretty sure my old boss just passed me in his RV doing like 90. I understand they just finished up a wind job someplace...
That’s why I tagged him, I figured he’d do things proper.

I’ll have to look, I had one load in Fargo, that loaded on the west side of town, and the permits didn’t start you were out of town on the east side. Yes, it’s Fargo, but it’s an example why I’m asking.
 
I have been thru Minneapolis without a city permit but stayed on highway. Went into Omaha Nebraska on city streets and didn’t have a city permit. I was told I didn’t need one. But I imagine places like Cleveland, Atlanta New York City and Chicago require them.
 
I have been thru Minneapolis without a city permit but stayed on highway. Went into Omaha Nebraska on city streets and didn’t have a city permit. I was told I didn’t need one. But I imagine places like Cleveland, Atlanta New York City and Chicago require them.

Many times if you stay on the interstate you don’t need a city permit. Interstates are state and federal whereas city streets are not.

At least that was always our excuse, but it always sounded reasonable enough to me.

Especially in comparison with all the other crap we pulled over the years.
 
Many times if you stay on the interstate you don’t need a city permit. Interstates are state and federal whereas city streets are not.

At least that was always our excuse, but it always sounded reasonable enough to me.

Especially in comparison with all the other crap we pulled over the years.
I’m kind of sweating Chicago. It looks easy but I’m hoping it’s smooth sailing

@r3gulator3 How often does your office update your provisions binder?
 
I am gonna guess annually. But I am not specialized division so I don’t have a copy in my truck. They fax me what I need to where I pick up from and I learn on the fly, also google is my friend. I usually google a city or state where I am passing thru for OD rules/ and most have PDF cheat sheets. My friend Steve has a full binder and I call and ask him stuff too.

Does your permit actually send you thru the city?
 
Normally, they will try to send you the most ignorant ways possible to keep you from touching an inch of toll road. I know every bone in your body wants to jump up and scream "But they don't even have toll booths!" (or something along those lines) However, Illinois is nothing if not hateful, money grubbing, and illogical. You can take an OD on the toll road.....for a SIGNIFICANT extra permit cost.

Have we said **** em to doing a 30 mile detour to skip 1.5 miles of 294 OR followed a detour to the letter because it so happens to skip those scales on 80? Maybe.......but some people have gotten hit with 5 and 6 figure fines for the dumbest of things in Illinois. Your results may vary.
 
I am gonna guess annually. But I am not specialized division so I don’t have a copy in my truck. They fax me what I need to where I pick up from and I learn on the fly, also google is my friend. I usually google a city or state where I am passing thru for OD rules/ and most have PDF cheat sheets. My friend Steve has a full binder and I call and ask him stuff too.

Does your permit actually send you thru the city?
Not exactly through the city, but on the east side I have to fiddle around on city streets from I57 to I80

Normally, they will try to send you the most ignorant ways possible to keep you from touching an inch of toll road. I know every bone in your body wants to jump up and scream "But they don't even have toll booths!" (or something along those lines) However, Illinois is nothing if not hateful, money grubbing, and illogical. You can take an OD on the toll road.....for a SIGNIFICANT extra permit cost.

Have we said **** em to doing a 30 mile detour to skip 1.5 miles of 294 OR followed a detour to the letter because it so happens to skip those scales on 80? Maybe.......but some people have gotten hit with 5 and 6 figure fines for the dumbest of things in Illinois. Your results may vary.
I’m following the permit. This is one of those things where they’ll teach you a whole new religion if they catch you off route. I’m not a superload or anything special, but good granny I can just see the Man licking his chops to find an oversize off route
 

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