HDL "good cholesterol" may not be so good afterall

[DrDaliah]

Somebody needs to make up their flipp'n mind. Now researchers are saying the "good cholesterol" HDL may cause inflammation. I don't buy it.....

HDL (good cholesterol) may not be so “good” afterall

 

[Injun]

Researchers found high levels of inflammation through macrophages (immune cells that help fight infection) in mice with high levels of HDL.

Is it correlative or coincidental?

I have different questions about cholesterol levels and heart diease. If someone has not scarred or stretched their blood vessels through long-term hypertension, how bad is cholesterol, really? I remember when practitioners didn't turn a hair until ttal lipid levels reached 300. Then, they decided 200 was bad. Does anybody stop to wonder whether certain numbers are normal for the individual or is the continued use of a one size fits all scale going to inhibit simple judgment calls made by a doctor and an informed patient? Would it maybe be sensible to err more on the side of withholding powerful chemicals rather than insist on their use?

My own position is to discourage the use of chemicals because everybody and every body is different and higher numbers might be normal to some.

Just some thoughts.

 

[DrDaliah]

good point. On the flip side, I remember getting yelled at as a medical student when I was rotating through coronary care unit and was discharging a patient who had a heart attack and didn't give him cholesterol medication because his number was only 175. The doctor said "why didn't you give him the statin?" I said because his cholesterol was "normal". He yelled back, it obviously wasn't "normal" since he had a heart attack. That was my early lesson that one size doesn't fit al.

 

[Tazz]

Eggs are good, eggs are bad. Well the whites are good but the yellows are bad. Well you need some yellow.......






Look I am just trying to eat ******* breakfast

 

[Blood]

Eggs are good, eggs are bad. Well the whites are good but the yellows are bad. Well you need some yellow.......






Look I am just trying to eat ******* breakfast

Have some oatmeal ...
AND A DAMN DECAF!!!

 

[Tazz]

Have some oatmeal ...
AND A DAMN DECAF!!!

Then @DrDaliah is gonna put me on those statin damn drugs

Is Decaf Coffee Bad for Your Health?




However, decaf can raise cholesterol levels even if it is prepared using a paper filter, reports the Harvard Family Health Guide. The exact reasons why decaf raises cholesterol are largely unknown but likely involve the chemical processes by which coffee is decaffeinated. The cholesterol-raising properties of decaf may also be a result of the types of beans used to make decaf coffee versus regular coffee, according to a report by New Scientist. Decaf coffee is made using Robusta beans, which may contain very high levels of kahweol and cafestol compared to Arabica beans used to make regular coffee varieties.







So in summation to hell with you prinks I am going to go eat a Philly for lunch


STFU I DO NOT CARE IF IT KILLS ME!


At least I will die with a full belly and a smile

 

[DrDaliah]

hahahahahahahahahah

 

[Mike]

Here is another viewpoint on the cholesterol debate

Manhattan Study Crushes Cholesterol Myth | USWM

 

[DrDaliah]

Here is another viewpoint on the cholesterol debate

Manhattan Study Crushes Cholesterol Myth | USWM

yep. Now high LDL scares me because of all the heart attacks and strokes I've seen. But I've learned that its not the quantity but the quality. Its the wrong artery at the wrong place with the wrong amount of LDL