Carriers to be Fined for Unmoved Port Cargo


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Looks like a good way to cause a shortage of carriers willing to haul from the ports to me.
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The twin ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach announced Monday that containers moved by trucks will have nine days before fines start accruing and containers scheduled to move by rail will have three days.

In accordance with these deadlines, carriers will be charged $100 for each lingering container per day starting Nov. 1.
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www.cnbc.com

Biden hopes fines on lingering cargo containers ease congestion at major U.S. ports

In accordance with these deadlines, carriers will be charged $100 for each lingering container per day starting Nov. 1.
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CNBC got a little confused by this. While it is still absolutely ignorant, Biden is going after the Ocean Carriers, not Motor Carriers. It still makes absolutely zero sense, but stupid has no boundaries with this guy.

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San Pedro Bay Ports Announce New Measure to Clear Cargo

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Under the new policy, the ports will charge ocean carriers for each container that falls into one of two categories. In the case of containers scheduled to move by truck, ocean carriers will be charged for every container dwelling nine days or more. For containers moving by rail, ocean carriers will be charged if the container has dwelled for three days or more.

Beginning Nov. 1, the ports will charge ocean carriers with cargo in those two categories $100 per container, increasing in $100 increments per container per day.
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What I really think will happen with these storage charges is.. they will be passed on from the carrier to the customer and from the customer on to the consumer and all that will result in higher prices and inflation. But hey Joe thinks it is a good idea
 
Electric Chicken said:
Okay so wait how is it the ocean carrier's fault that nobody has pulled it out of the port/yard? 🤔
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Turns out, the piling up of containers on the ports seem to be mostly containers that are supposed to be "leaving" the ports.

So yeah, it's a logjam. Stuff can go out because the ships trying to bring stuff in can't get empty. So, what do we do? We fine the Ocean Carriers.

Ocean Carriers have already announced that they will be passing these fines down to the importers and retailers. And yes, it's a given the the importers and retailers will pass the fines on down to We The People. Everything just got even more expensive, effective November 1, 2021.

www.freightwaves.com

Ocean carriers will pass on fines to importers for lingering containers

The Los Angeles/Long Beach cargo community is confused about punitive fees on ocean carriers designed to expedite the clearance of containers from marine terminals.
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Mike said:
Turns out, the piling up of containers on the ports seem to be mostly containers that are supposed to be "leaving" the ports.

So yeah, it's a logjam. Stuff can go out because the ships trying to bring stuff in can't get empty. So, what do we do? We fine the Ocean Carriers.
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Well, yeah. Everything is ultimately meant to leave the port. But still how is that up to the ship? They have no control over anything that isn't on their ship.
 
Electric Chicken said:
Well, yeah. But still how is that up to the ship? Everything is ultimately meant to leave the port.
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You would have to ask the man handing out the fines. No idea how he came up with that.

Seems to me, you unload a ship, then you reload a ship. I know it has to be more complicated than that, but that's how my simple mind sees it.
 
Mike said:
You would have to ask the man handing out the fines. No idea how he came up with that.

Seems to me, you unload a ship, then you reload a ship. I know it has to be more complicated than that, but that's how my simple mind sees it.
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Same here, which is why I don't get why the ship has anything to do with what happens on the ground.

Then again we aren't vegetables like Go Brandon.
 
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Yeah that's messed up! That would be like a shipper charging the trucking company because the loaders didn't load the truck fast enough.
 
How many times do you actually reload at your receiver?

You take your empty wagon and leave.

Why wouldn’t a shipping company be the same.

Who owns those containers? That’s nothing more than “dunnage”
 
mndriver said:
How many times do you actually reload at your receiver?

You take your empty wagon and leave.

Why wouldn’t a shipping company be the same.

Who owns those containers? That’s nothing more than “dunnage”
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It's not like the ships can reach into the port themselves and grab boxes the way a truck can go into a warehouse lot and grab a chassis.
 
As of today, the discussions are active about motor carriers being fined daily for being late picking up or dropping off containers at the port.

If this goes through, they are looking at a date of November 15 to begin.

Obviously, this would be above and beyond whatever the broker is charging you.
 
Mike said:
As of today, the discussions are active about motor carriers being fined daily for being late picking up or dropping off containers at the port.

If this goes through, they are looking at a date of November 15 to begin.

Obviously, this would be above and beyond whatever the broker is charging you.
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A lot of shippers and receivers already fine companies for late pickups and deliveries though. How would this be any different?

As long as the fines are only for if the containers are staged and available for pickup at a designated time and there's a crane ready to load it but the carrier isnt there. If the truck is there but stuck in a long line outside the gate, or in a staging area checked in, then there should be no fine.

Somehow I doubt that was speculated though. Biden just wants to make it look like he's doing something to solve the problem without actually solving the problem. Democrats always gotta have a crisis to exploit.
 
A logistical nightmare.

That I am kind of experiencing right now.

Just got to my drop off today receiver said we were not expecting you, so they said go wait on the street we do not have room for you yet.

As I pull into the street I see another truck with his flashers on, yep same thing happened to him.

'Course dispatch called and marked time for detention.

Not what Biden's trying to do charging us instead for just being there.

That's messed up.
 

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