Best School for A CDL ? / Please recommend a school


dehammer

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Kentucky. Looking to get A CDL.

Can someone recommend a great school top get A CDL? I have read a bit on a few of the forums and realize there are alot of, not so great schools around. Just looking for the best training. Is there a short list of schools that have a great reputation and turn out top notch drivers?
 

The school can't make the driver top notch . That's why carriers put graduates with trainers and a lot of people get rejected . I have a low opinion of schools because they know carriers have hundreds of applications on file and the oversupply of applicants grows every day . Carriers are continually cuting there fleet size . There are no new jobs , just new faces constantly replacing others that quit .
 
OK. Is it best to start with a carrier? Do carriers train to A CDL?

Let's just say, regardless of the job situation, I want to get A CDL.

Besides just getting advise on not doing it......Anyone have any positive feedback on what is a good way to obtain a Commercial Drivers License?

Mostly what I am reading is that the current pool of qualified drivers don't want anyone else to get licensed. What is up with that?
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OK. Is it best to start with a carrier? Do carriers train to A CDL?

Let's just say, regardless of the job situation, I want to get A CDL.

Besides just getting advise on not doing it......Anyone have any positive feedback on what is a good way to obtain a Commercial Drivers License?

Mostly what I am reading is that the current pool of qualified drivers don't want anyone else to get licensed. What is up with that?
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The current pool of qualified drivers are trying to give sensible people good advice . Do some SENSIBLE research . Check Yahoo Finance , Hoover , and Forbes for quarterly reports and news releases on carriers you might consider . You'll see that all carriers are reducing fleet size and cutting benefits and pay .
Then to see if freight is picking up keep an eye on the Transportation Services Index to see how freight is doing . Right now it's at its lowest level in 7 years . BTS | Transportation Services Index
That's what's up with that . Drivers that know what's going on don't want someone struggling with a family to go $5,000 in debt to get a useless license . Many students graduate and several months later still haven't found a job and are told their training is invalid unless they take a refresher course . Students that do get hired often qut after getting less than $400 a week after being on the road 3 weeks at a time . That's the main reason carriers keep hiring . They have less trucks but people keep quitting .
 
This poor economy will not last forever. Is it not sensible for someone who is able to aquire another skill set or trade, to do so?
Can you get A CDL on your own without going to an expensive school? There are lots of route, local, and city jobs available that require CDL.
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The thing is like I said , if you don't get a job right away the training has no value after a few months . Yes , it is smart to check with smaller companies and maybe work the warehouse and get them to train you to move trucks around the yard . I worked for MPW Industrial Services out of Hebron , OH . They have branches all over the country . They train operators to run 10 wheel vaccuum trucks and the operators don't need CDL's because the trucks operate on site and are at jobs 2 or 3 weeks at a time . They train operators to get a Class A CDL because they also need semi trucks with water blast pumps transported between jobs . My son works for a towing service and they are going to get him his CDL because they need a bigger truck to keep up with repos
I don't know where you are in KY but I worked for the MPW branch in Rockport , IN . They do a lot of work for AK Steel and AEP in Rockport and powerplants and aluminum plants in KY . They also have fulltime workers at the Toyota plant in Georgetown
 
dehammer...
I start school next week, I say go for it.
Having a CDL gives you a lot of job opportunities.
There is a company near me that has a starting pay of $17.81 per hour and you are home every night.
There are also concrete and Beverage companies near me that are wanting drivers.
 
Thanks RickG. I get your point about using it right away. I am in a small town near Crestwood. I usually do a regional sales gig that includes KY, IN, and Ohio. Just need the work ASAP. I will contact companies first. Thanks again.
 
dehammer...

To answer the question in your previous post...you can still get a CDL without going to an expensive school. Regulations have not been implemented yet to prevent this.

Now, putting aside the current economic situation, the current situation in our industry, and every other piece of bs. I think it's time for those of us that know the business to first make something clear to those that want to get into the business. I'm constantly reading comments about how bad it is right now...or what you should or shouldn't do...instead of first sharing an understanding of exactly what a person is getting into when they decide they want to be a trucker. So I'll ask you, as my uncle did me when I decided to pursue a life as a trucker many many years ago, the most important question you must answer first.

This is America and a man has the God given right to pursue whatever dream he so chooses. The life of a trucker is not an easy one. It is a life full of much sacrifice and responsibility...and the level of your success as a trucker is equal to the level of sacrifices you are willing to make. Truckers are the life-blood of our great country...they are what makes the comforts Americans enjoy possible. And it is for this reason that a trucker stands proud...knowing we are the main cog in the engine of our society.

This is what my uncle said to me before asking this very question...
Are you prepared to make the commitment of sacrifice for your fellow Americans?

Now if you are prepared to make this commitment...it doesn't matter what anyone says, or what's occuring in this economic climate. A man committed to succeeding, will succeed.

So are you prepared to make this serious commitment? If so...go down to the DMV and pick up a CDL booklet. Study it and take the tests. You don't need to go to school to obtain a CDL permit. That will open some doors for ya.

-ss-
 
dehammer...

To answer the question in your previous post...you can still get a CDL without going to an expensive school. Regulations have not been implemented yet to prevent this.

Now, putting aside the current economic situation, the current situation in our industry, and every other piece of bs. I think it's time for those of us that know the business to first make something clear to those that want to get into the business. I'm constantly reading comments about how bad it is right now...or what you should or shouldn't do...instead of first sharing an understanding of exactly what a person is getting into when they decide they want to be a trucker. So I'll ask you, as my uncle did me when I decided to pursue a life as a trucker many many years ago, the most important question you must answer first.

This is America and a man has the God given right to pursue whatever dream he so chooses. The life of a trucker is not an easy one. It is a life full of much sacrifice and responsibility...and the level of your success as a trucker is equal to the level of sacrifices you are willing to make. Truckers are the life-blood of our great country...they are what makes the comforts Americans enjoy possible. And it is for this reason that a trucker stands proud...knowing we are the main cog in the engine of our society.

This is what my uncle said to me before asking this very question...
Are you prepared to make the commitment of sacrifice for your fellow Americans?

Now if you are prepared to make this commitment...it doesn't matter what anyone says, or what's occuring in this economic climate. A man committed to succeeding, will succeed.

So are you prepared to make this serious commitment? If so...go down to the DMV and pick up a CDL booklet. Study it and take the tests. You don't need to go to school to obtain a CDL permit. That will open some doors for ya.

-ss-
You made a good point about schooling not being mandatory yet . But a plan is not yet in place and once requirements are established it wil be at least 3 years before the requirements are mandated . But that is on the Federal level . Some states already have mandatory training requirements

FMCSA 13-07
Wednesday, December 26, 2007


FMCSA Proposes Rule with Mandatory Training Requirements for
Commercial Driver’s License Applicants

WASHINGTON– Dec. 26 – Individuals seeking new commercial driver’s licenses (CDL) would be required to complete both classroom and behind-the-wheel training from an accredited educational program or institution under a proposed rule announced today by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA).

“This proposed rule will give truck drivers additional skills needed to keep our roads safe,” FMCSA Administrator John H. Hill said.

Beginning three years after the effective date of a final rule, all applicants for a CDL or upgraded CDL would be required to provide a valid certificate from a truck driving program or institution accredited by the U.S. Department of Education or the Council on Higher Education Accreditation. The rule would not affect current CDL holders.

For a “Class A” CDL (tractor-trailers), the proposed rule would require a minimum of 76 hours of classroom instruction and 44 hours of behind-the-wheel training for a total of 120 hours. For “Class B” (large “box” or van trucks) and “Class C” CDLs (hazardous materials or certain passenger-carrying vehicles), the proposed rule would require a minimum of 58 hours of classroom instruction and 32 hours behind-the-wheel training for a total of 90 hours. The training curriculum includes CDL safety regulations, vehicle operation and safe operating practices.

The public is invited to comment on the proposed rule. Instructions are available at www.regulations.gov, docket number FMCSA-2007-27748. Public comments will be accepted until March 25, 2008.

Commercial Driver License (CDL)
CDL law changes

  • Starting January 2, 2009, you will be required to meet minimum training requirements before getting a CDL.
  • CDL skills tests may be conducted by Department of Licensing (DOL) testers at regional locations throughout the state.
  • Skills test fees have increased to $100 ($75 for Head Start/ ECEAP organizations )
As for the level of sacrifice having to do with the success in the industry , what happens when you have 50,000 people willing to make equal sacrifices but only 5,000 job openings ?
 
Well RickG...that's the beauty about America. It's called "Independent". I know I wouldn't stand in line with 49,999 other people for a job when I could just as easily get into a truck as an independent. And before ya go there...there are many ways to obtain a truck & trailer and authority without too much trouble. Also I'll point out if ya can afford to go to a school...you can afford to get started as an independent. And if ya can't...ya really shouldn't even be considering truckin in the first place. But hey, this is America and an individual has the right to chase their dreams...win or lose...it is their choice. All any of us should do is just make it known the real reality of what they're getting into. Anyone can learn the mechanics...it's the ethics they're not being taught and should be shared.

To clarify my statement...or shall I say my uncle's statement...
"The level of success is equal to the level of sacrifice." It's not what you're willing to sacrifice to be a trucker...it's what you're willing to sacrifice AS a trucker. Examples are the kids first words...or first steps...or baseball games and graduations. Bottom line...trucking is not a job - it's a lifestyle...it's not "what you do" - it's "who you are."

-ss-
 
Well RickG...that's the beauty about America. It's called "Independent". I know I wouldn't stand in line with 49,999 other people for a job when I could just as easily get into a truck as an independent. And before ya go there...there are many ways to obtain a truck & trailer and authority without too much trouble. Also I'll point out if ya can afford to go to a school...you can afford to get started as an independent. And if ya can't...ya really shouldn't even be considering truckin in the first place. But hey, this is America and an individual has the right to chase their dreams...win or lose...it is their choice. All any of us should do is just make it known the real reality of what they're getting into. Anyone can learn the mechanics...it's the ethics they're not being taught and should be shared.

To clarify my statement...or shall I say my uncle's statement...
"The level of success is equal to the level of sacrifice." It's not what you're willing to sacrifice to be a trucker...it's what you're willing to sacrifice AS a trucker. Examples are the kids first words...or first steps...or baseball games and graduations. Bottom line...trucking is not a job - it's a lifestyle...it's not "what you do" - it's "who you are."

-ss-
You make good points there also . I know some O/O's with their own authority doing well now . That indeed does take a lot of sacrifice and hard work . You hve to make a name for yourself with shippers and you do it with quality service , not cheap rates . Brokers will take advantage of small carriers that don't know how to charge enough to survive but the beiving abilityst paying loads frm the best shippers never hit the load boards . The brokers call cariers they know by past experience can be depended on . To survive as an O/O sales ability is as important as driving ability . You have to be able to get out there and convine shippers your the best man fr the job and at a fair rate .
I've seen new members come to a hotshot forum and ask "I just bought a new F-450 and a 40' trailer . Where can I find work ? " . You know they won't last 6 months . Nobody is going to tell them where he best loads are . The ones hauling the good loads didn't have anything handed to them and they didn't bang on doors , shake hands , and buy meals just to hand the leads over to somebody that just bought a truck .
 
I hear ya...and you are correct about how it works out there. That's some of the realities which should be shared in an honest and respectful manner to those wishing to enter trucking. The reality of the hard work involved with developing a reputation, and the understanding that nothing is handed to ya...you've got to pay the dues to reap the rewards...

-ss-
 
dehammer...

To answer the question in your previous post...you can still get a CDL without going to an expensive school. Regulations have not been implemented yet to prevent this.

Now, putting aside the current economic situation, the current situation in our industry, and every other piece of bs. I think it's time for those of us that know the business to first make something clear to those that want to get into the business. I'm constantly reading comments about how bad it is right now...or what you should or shouldn't do...instead of first sharing an understanding of exactly what a person is getting into when they decide they want to be a trucker. So I'll ask you, as my uncle did me when I decided to pursue a life as a trucker many many years ago, the most important question you must answer first.

This is America and a man has the God given right to pursue whatever dream he so chooses. The life of a trucker is not an easy one. It is a life full of much sacrifice and responsibility...and the level of your success as a trucker is equal to the level of sacrifices you are willing to make. Truckers are the life-blood of our great country...they are what makes the comforts Americans enjoy possible. And it is for this reason that a trucker stands proud...knowing we are the main cog in the engine of our society.

This is what my uncle said to me before asking this very question...
Are you prepared to make the commitment of sacrifice for your fellow Americans?

Now if you are prepared to make this commitment...it doesn't matter what anyone says, or what's occuring in this economic climate. A man committed to succeeding, will succeed.

So are you prepared to make this serious commitment? If so...go down to the DMV and pick up a CDL booklet. Study it and take the tests. You don't need to go to school to obtain a CDL permit. That will open some doors for ya.

-ss-
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I have to agree with if after getting your cdl-a if you don't use it, you lose it. Got my cdl-a in the end of March, and have not been in a truck since. Not good. Things didn't really go the way I thought they would. Economy took a dump. After 35 years in the auto industry, I thought I'd retire and get into driving.
 
I have to agree with if after getting your cdl-a if you don't use it, you lose it. Got my cdl-a in the end of March, and have not been in a truck since. Not good. Things didn't really go the way I thought they would. Economy took a dump. After 35 years in the auto industry, I thought I'd retire and get into driving.

Are you referring to a CDL permit? Just because ya got a classA license and don't drive a CMV doesn't mean ya lose your classA. All ya have to do is maintain your medical and renewal fees...and take the hazmat test and background to renew hazmat every two years if that endorsement is included on your license and ya want to keep it there.

Just a little vague in your comment. Sounds like your referring to a license and not a permit. A CDL permit does have a time-frame to complete the testing process (pre-trip, skills & drive.) Most states has a 6 month time-frame to complete the testing process before ya have to start all over from scratch.

-ss-
 

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