All Non-US Individuals Must Now Be FULLY Vaccinated to enter the united states, This Includes Truck Drivers

[Mike]

If you were hoping for a last-minute reversal, it didn't happen. Any non-US individual, including truck drivers, must now be FULLY vaccinated in order to enter the United States. Fully vaccinated doesn't include boosters at this point, but don't be surprised to see that terminology change in the future.



Canada has already instituted their travel ban for the non vaccinated.

Any predictions on how this goes? Will we see noticeable problems getting freight into and out of the United States? Will we see a quick stoppage of this policy by a judge? Is it here to stay and we just need to get used to it?

Most importantly, has your driving job been affected by this?

 

[Electric Chicken]

What about the other way around? Does Canada require full vax to get in?

 

[Mike]

What about the other way around? Does Canada require full vax to get in?

Yes. Canada was first.

Montana has already lifted HOS requirements because they are struggling to get bulk fuel across the border and I hear it’s cold in Montana this time of year.

 

[Electric Chicken]

Yes. Canada was first.

Montana has already lifted HOS requirements because they are struggling to get bulk fuel across the border and I hear it’s cold in Montana this time of year.

So basically it's vaxxed or nothing both ways.

Looks like rates are going to be nuts. You should get in on it and make a killing.

 

[Electric Chicken]

I wouldn't get vaxed just to run Canada but if I was already vaxed I'd hit them for the most insane rates I could get.

 

[Electric Chicken]

I'd still quit a job out of principle that tried to make me get vaxed though, mandate or not.

It's like dashcams. I'll decide whether to run one. I won't let you make me.

 

[Rigjockey]

I wouldn't get vaxed just to run Canada but if I was already vaxed I'd hit them for the most insane rates I could get.

You would be getting good rates going both ways.

 

[Rigjockey]

I'd still quit a job out of principle that tried to make me get vaxed though, mandate or not.

Lot's of drivers have quit their jobs over this.

 

[Mike]

Lot's of drivers have quit their jobs over this.

In news reports, the number being pushed is that over 90% of drivers were already vaxxed. I have a very hard time believing that, as I would expect truck drivers to be lower than the overall average number.

 

[Rigjockey]

In news reports, the number being pushed is that over 90% of drivers were already vaxxed. I have a very hard time believing that, as I would expect truck drivers to be lower than the overall average number.

I have a hard time believing that too but even still if you take 10% of cross border drivers out of the cross border equation of an already short supply, that's a lot.

 

[Electric Chicken]

In news reports, the number being pushed is that over 90% of drivers were already vaxxed. I have a very hard time believing that, as I would expect truck drivers to be lower than the overall average number.

Lib news, or conservative?

I could see the liberal narrative being well most everyone else is doing it so you need to as well. Basically a guilt trip.

The conservative narrative would be eh it's no big deal. It won't hurt anything, rates can stay the same.

Both of which are BS.

 

[Mike]

Lib news, or conservative?

Both

 

[Mike]

I have a hard time believing that too but even still if you take 10% of cross border drivers out of the cross border equation of an already short supply, that's a lot.

Yes, it's a huge impact. Montana is already feeling the pain just trying to heat their homes with fuel from Canada.

 

[Electric Chicken]

Yes, it's a huge impact. Montana is already feeling the pain just trying to heat their homes with fuel from Canada.

Would the pipeline have helped this or is it different fuel?

 

[Rigjockey]

Lib news, or conservative?

I could see the liberal narrative being well most everyone else is doing it so you need to as well. Basically a guilt trip.

The conservative narrative would be eh it's no big deal. It won't hurt anything, rates can stay the same.

Both of which are BS.

Surprisingly from the comment on articles that I have read, Liberals are like we haven't seen any shortages and fuck the drivers if they don't want to get vaxxed.
Conservatives are like, we are going to see shortages and support drivers.

 

[Rigjockey]

I think the manufacturing sector will be hit pretty hard by this on both sides.

 

[Electric Chicken]

Surprisingly from the comment on articles that I have read, Liberals are like we haven't seen any shortages and fuck the drivers if they don't want to get vaxxed.
Conservatives are like, we are going to see shortages and support drivers.

Interesting.

 

[Electric Chicken]

I think the manufacturing sector will be hit pretty hard by this on both sides.

Yeah I can see that.

 

[Mike]

Would the pipeline have helped this or is it different fuel?

Don't think the pipelines would have mattered for this.

 

[Mike]

Surprisingly from the comment on articles that I have read, Liberals are like we haven't seen any shortages and fuck the drivers if they don't want to get vaxxed.
Conservatives are like, we are going to see shortages and support drivers.

and the politics around this isn't changing. Just like politicians being on one side of the fence or the other on this, so are people and that isn't going to change.

Now that it is here, it will be interesting to see how those affected react and how everyone is affected.

Even if you don't cross the border, you are going to be affected by this to some extent. some positive, some negative. Overall, I think it will be a net negative. As owner operators, we will likely see overall rates pushed higher. As company drivers, we will continue to see companies out raising pay. As consumers, everything just got a little more expensive and a little harder to get.