Site is misleading

[jmlloar]

Mavericks site is misleading. It says student program, but really its flatbed training for experienced drivers. They only hire with AT LEAST 6mos OTR experience. If you put in an app right out of school and never got contacted this is why.

 

[lunachic]

Thats not a bad thing. Flatbed is different........You must know and watch how they load you and then the right way to secure it. You will be working with different type of equipment.
I don't think anyone right out of school should go right to a skateboard......
Sorry.............

 

[lunachic]

just went to the site.

No flatbed experience? No problem!
Paid training available.

 

[jmlloar]

I'm not saying it's bad or good. Just put on your site what you actually mean. Don't waste my time filling out a 3 page app if your not gonna hire me in the first place. Just put the job requirements up front.

And I don't agree with that no newbies on a flat. I would prefer a flat. Its a little easier to SEE whats going on. And I would think that you would take more time securing the load when its out in the open then what you would inside a box. I would think alot of inexperienced drivers would fall into the "out of site out of mind" type thinking.

I would also think that experience helps but what about the guy thats been doing it "this way" for 20 years and he's been doing it wrong the whole time???

Experience goes hand and hand with knowledge. I think you should have to take the written test again ever 5 years or so to show that your keeping up on the laws. Not just for CDL but for all driving licenses. ALL the experience in the world isn't going to help if you don't know the proper way to do what your doing.

 

[jmlloar]

just went to the site.

<LI class=Arialbodytext1215>No flatbed experience? No problem!
Paid training available.

Now click on student program

This is what it says.

"After obtaining your CDL, you will learn flatbed or specialized trucking from the best instructors in the industry. You’ll learn the Maverick Transportation standard of excellence through hands-on training with an instructor dedicated to your success."

Nothing about get CDL then drive for 6 months before considering us....

 

[Cerberus]

Here ya go. Give you a start to find some other flatbed companies.

Flatbed Trucking Jobs, Flatbed Trucking Companies

 

[jmlloar]

Been there.
I've applied at every site I could find like this. Most of the time it was useless. I NEVER got one single follow up from ANY company applied for directly from the job sites.

Best response I got was to use the company names from these sites and search for the actual company site then apply from there.

My biggest problem is hometime. I can live with missing a few weekends home here and there, but I absoloutly refuse to stay out for 3 and 4 weeks at a time. There is no reason to with the way hours of service is set up. I have to take my 34 hour reset so why not get me going towards home. If I dont get there everytime big deal. But come on and at least put forth an effort.

I wont team and I wont slip seat. Dont care what I drive as long as its safe and legal. And I am not leasing till at least a year of experiance. And no way in $#%*$ am I paying for the chance to work for someone. (C.R. England)

Guess I'm stuck with That 1% of the companies out there that are close to that.

And tons of companies never even called me back. And it cant be work history. Worked the same job for 7 years straight. And it cant be my DAC or my MVR because they are completely clean.

I think alot of the bottom feeder companies are looking for the people with some marks on their record. That way they have them by the ba##'s

Anyway you look at it, it seems more and more like it's not worth all the trouble to get started into driving. Been trying to get started for 3 months now.

JMAO

 

[Cerberus]

It can get frustrating at times. Wait til you get out there. Thats were the real frustrations begin.

 

[Grinder]

My biggest problem is hometime. I can live with missing a few weekends home here and there, but I absoloutly refuse to stay out for 3 and 4 weeks at a time.

That's too bad. You're starting out telling people what you wont do. That is not the way to go.

Get some miles under your ass, and then they might work with you. But right now, you are an unknown to them and they have absolutely no reason to work with you on anything.

Know your place. You are a nothing. A nobody. You have yet to work your way into being called a rookie. Until you do that, they will tell you to go jump in a creek with that you "absolutely refuse to do".

Hope I made myself clear.

 

[lunachic]

In other words you have just came out of driving school, yes or no.
and you expect all the companies out there to bow down to your wants.
It's not the way it works.
So they lied to you, promise of big money , home time. Welcome to trucking.
It's not going to get better ask any of them.
You want what drivers with 20 years or more behind them can't have now.
What makes you think you are worth that.......................
Not trying to be rude but the truth is you wont be home for week-ends you will have a trainer with you. You will miss holidays. And the pay sucks most of them will rape your paycheck one way or another.
They are not going to invest time and money into a newbe,with out making money off you. **** them off and you will find yourself stranded someplace broke.
From what I read of your post trucking is not for you.And you have know work history, They dont count nondriving jobs.
again sorry.

 

[jmlloar]

You are filling in the gaps with what you THINK I want and thats not it. I know what I want. I can live with the BS and the recruiters (I spent my time in the military). I just know what I'm looking for. Best I've got so far is TMC. I know their BS about guaranteed hometime needs to be taken with a grain of salt. And I've done the O/O thing but with mid size trucks and got a good idea how it works. But it makes no sense to me to have you in the middle of nowhere most of the time when your HOS is up. When with a little planning you could be anywhere you want. And if the companies push you around like that and YOU put up with it, They ain't screwing you your screwing yourself. IF its that bad why are you still driving????

I will try my luck and get my so called on paper experience built up. But I have no intention of letting anyone push me around. Like the saying goes "I was looking when I found this job and I'll be looking when I find the next one" The whole point is I just asked for some advice not your not driving material. who the ^%# do you think you are the almighty driver expert.

For the rest of ya I apologize. For the ones who think they are better then anyone else. You read it. And I'll do what I feel I need to regardless of what you might think.

 

[Grinder]

When with a little planning you could be anywhere you want. And if the companies push you around like that and YOU put up with it, They ain't screwing you your screwing yourself.

No! It depends on the freight.

I can't tell you how many times the plans went screwy. Its a part of the business and it has absolutely nothing to do with "getting screwed". Sometimes the plan changes work to your advantage and sometimes they don't. But it does happen and sometimes you get stranded "out in the middle of nowhere". Bitching about it won't help. Telling people what you will and will not do will not help, because you are not the one in charge. You want to be in charge? Get your own truck and your own authority.

You **** off your dispatcher and you will not get miles. Telling a dispatcher what you will and will not do will **** him or her off mightily. Work with them and chances are they will bend over backwards to help, because you are dependable and not a perpetual headache pain in the ass. They do all they can to keep drivers like that happy. Either that, or they are an idiot.

What I said, stands. You have no idea how the business runs just because you were an O/O with midsize trucks.

Either make the best of it or don't even think about being a driver. You take the good with the bad.

I expect you to ignore this. But I tried. Dont say you weren't warned.

 

[roadkill439342]

Mavericks site is misleading. It says student program, but really its flatbed training for experienced drivers. They only hire with AT LEAST 6mos OTR experience. If you put in an app right out of school and never got contacted this is why.

Wouldn't the "recipients" of flat-bed training be "students"?
So what's the problem.......get 6 mos OTR experience and THEN get flat-bed training.

 

[roadkill439342]

I'm not saying it's bad or good. Just put on your site what you actually mean. Don't waste my time filling out a 3 page app if your not gonna hire me in the first place. Just put the job requirements up front.

And I don't agree with that no newbies on a flat. I would prefer a flat. Its a little easier to SEE whats going on. And I would think that you would take more time securing the load when its out in the open then what you would inside a box. I would think alot of inexperienced drivers would fall into the "out of site out of mind" type thinking.

I would also think that experience helps but what about the guy thats been doing it "this way" for 20 years and he's been doing it wrong the whole time???

Experience goes hand and hand with knowledge. I think you should have to take the written test again ever 5 years or so to show that your keeping up on the laws. Not just for CDL but for all driving licenses. ALL the experience in the world isn't going to help if you don't know the proper way to do what your doing.

Just because you "fill out a three-page" application, there is no guarantee you will get the job. That is true in ANY occupation.
Geezz, I could fill out an application to be a neurosurgeon, and I should get the job........right?

 

[FlatBroke]

Geezz, I could fill out an application to be a neurosurgeon, and I should get the job........right?

Only if you put on the application you stayed at a "Holiday Inn Express" the night before..

Seriously though, if jmlloar is going to come out of school and start telling companies what he will or will not do right off the bat, then you can just about bet that application will be put aside/passed up for the next one. Especially now, with how freight is still slow.

 

[Cerberus]

You are filling in the gaps with what you THINK I want and thats not it. I know what I want. I can live with the BS and the recruiters (I spent my time in the military). I just know what I'm looking for. Best I've got so far is TMC. I know their BS about guaranteed hometime needs to be taken with a grain of salt. And I've done the O/O thing but with mid size trucks and got a good idea how it works. But it makes no sense to me to have you in the middle of nowhere most of the time when your HOS is up. When with a little planning you could be anywhere you want. And if the companies push you around like that and YOU put up with it, They ain't screwing you your screwing yourself. IF its that bad why are you still driving????

I will try my luck and get my so called on paper experience built up. But I have no intention of letting anyone push me around. Like the saying goes "I was looking when I found this job and I'll be looking when I find the next one" The whole point is I just asked for some advice not your not driving material. who the ^%# do you think you are the almighty driver expert.

For the rest of ya I apologize. For the ones who think they are better then anyone else. You read it. And I'll do what I feel I need to regardless of what you might think.

Dude i think you took what they said to you the wrong way. All they offered, after you asked i must say, is constructive critisim. Since you were in the military i'll break this down for you a little more easier to understand. I'm prior military also, so don't take that the wrong way. The military and trucking are very comparable. I would say almost can be 99% comparable. In the military things are always being done or said that just doesn't make sense at all. But you have to do it or pay the consequences and that sucks. How many times were you told to do something and thought to yourself, WTF? That makes no sense at all. Well thats trucking. Why do they stick you in BFE laid over for the weekend at times and not at home. Just a few reasons are, fuel is expensive(you pay for it and you can do what you want), maybe the load they have planned on for you had some problems and won't be ready until monday morning. What you gotta do is relax and enjoy the time off. When your sitting there and waiting for a load, get creative, park at a walmart/kmart near other things and see a movie or something. Yes it is aggrevating to sit but you only have two options really. Sit there and stew about it all weekend and make matters worse than they are or get out of the truck and enjoy your free time in a town you have never been in. It sucks but you have to make the best of what you got.

 

[jmlloar]

I have no problem putting up with the BS. Basically what I said was I'm not taking a company right off the bat that says they will get you home every 21 days or so. If I get stuck somewhere over the weekend, oh well.

I'll just stick with TMC. I know someone who works there and so far he's been very busy, but yet still gets home EVERY weekend. I would prefer not driving a flat. I dont mind the straping/chaining but dont care for the tarps.

I have also heard from a few places that flat loads are really on the up swing this month.

Anyway I'll try my luck, and if I like it I'll stay if not I'll still do the this sucks thing for at least 6 months to get my OTR experiance in. I have no problem "sticking it out" no matter how bad it is once I make the commitment. I have also got alot of good info from here. All I ask for is dont treat me like a child and dont be a smart a##. Change one word in a sentence and it can make the diff between "advice" and "hey stupid why are you so dumb".

 

[Grinder]

Anyway I'll try my luck, and if I like it I'll stay if not I'll still do the this sucks thing for at least 6 months to get my OTR experiance in. I have no problem "sticking it out" no matter how bad it is once I make the commitment.

Good. Live up to that and you will do well. It would be better, IMO, to give it one year instead of 6 months. Unless things really are that bad there. Job hoppers are frowned upon in hard times.

 

[bigrobdog]

Here ya go. Give you a start to find some other flatbed companies.

Flatbed Trucking Jobs, Flatbed Trucking Companies

your a dummy

 

[bigrobdog]

Dude i think you took what they said to you the wrong way. All they offered, after you asked i must say, is constructive cultism. Since you were in the military Illa break this down for you a little more easier to understand. I'm prior military also, so don't take that the wrong way. The military and trucking are very comparable. I would say almost can be 99% comparable. In the military things are always being done or said that just doesn't make sense at all. But you have to do it or pay the consequences and that sucks. How many times were you told to do something and thought to yourself, WTF? That makes no sense at all. Well Thad's trucking. Why do they stick you in BFE laid over for the weekend at times and not at home. Just a few reasons are, fuel is expensive(you pay for it and you can do what you want), maybe the load they have planned on for you had some problems and won't be ready until Mindy morning. What you gotta do is relax and enjoy the time off. When your sitting there and waiting for a load, get creative, park at a Almaty/km art near other things and see a movie or something. Yes it is aggravatingly to sit but you only have two options really. Sit there and stew about it all weekend and make matters worse than they are or get out of the truck and enjoy your free time in a town you have never been in. It sucks but you have to make the best of what you got.

dont even bother this guy just like to ruffle everybody's feathers.