Trucking Regulations: Speed limiters, automatic braking on NTSB Most Wanted List

[Mike]

The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) is keeping pressure on regulators to require speed limiters on trucks as well as performance standards for automatic emergency braking (AEB) and other crash-avoidance technology. Those policy goals were once again included on the safety agency’s latest Most Wanted List of top 10 transportation safety improvements for 2021-22. Speed limiter recommendations were on NTSB’s 2019-20 list, and AEB has been singled out as a top 10 improvement since 2016.

Some of the reccomendations:

• Develop performance standards for advanced speed-limiting technology, such as variable speed limiters and intelligent speed adaptation devices, for heavy vehicles, including trucks, buses and motorcoaches, and then require that all newly manufactured heavy vehicles be equipped with such devices.
• Complete standards for collision-warning and AEB systems in commercial vehicles and require this technology in all highway vehicles and all new school buses.

Speed limiters, automatic braking on NTSB Most Wanted List

NTSB again highlights the need for automated safety devices in trucks in its latest top 10 list.

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[Mike]

Not sure how long this fight is going to last, but I fully expect the trucking industry will eventually lose it. Who else, besides OOIDA openly fights against the speed limiters?

 

[Sinister]

Remember like 2005 when this became a thing?

There were some companies and drivers all looking forward to it. It was insane.

I had an ABF truck pull out in front of me along 54 someplace in SW Kansas (I think) and when I got on the CB and asked him why he pulled in front of me just to do 55 his response was, "Don't fucking worry about it pretty soon we will all be doing 55."

I'll never forget that. It still boggles the mind.

 

[Uncle Birchy]

Not sure how long this fight is going to last, but I fully expect the trucking industry will eventually lose it. Who else, besides OOIDA openly fights against the speed limiters?

The megas don't care because most of em already cap their trucks.

They see it as leveling the playing field veresus all the small Carriers and independent.

So I fully expect the National Trucking Association to lobby hard for and be cheerleader for this after all they were all in on Elogs.

 

[Electric Chicken]

The megas don't care because most of em already cap their trucks.

They see it as leveling the playing field veresus all the small Carriers and independent.

So I fully expect the National Trucking Association to lobby hard for and be cheerleader for this after all they were all in on Elogs.

Schneider company line was always cruise control at 60 is safe, your foot on the pedal for 63 is unsafe.

All while the OTR trucks were cruising 65.

They would try to write me up. I refused to sign it.

Then after I left they turned up all the trucks to 65.

 

[Uncle Birchy]

Schneider company line was always cruise control at 60 is safe, your foot on the pedal for 63 is unsafe.

All while the OTR trucks were cruising 65.

They would try to write me up. I refused to sign it.

Then after I left they turned up all the trucks to 65.

I got 65 on cruise but if I hold it to the floor I get 68

That Peterbilt 386 I drove some years back was 64 on cruise but 71 on the floor

 

[Electric Chicken]

I got 65 on cruise but if I hold it to the floor I get 68

That Peterbilt 386 I drove some years back was 64 on cruise but 71 on the floor

They took away having anything extra with the pedal. But you still get dinged for "overspeed" if your foot is on the pedal at 65 instead of using cruise to be at 65.

It's devolving into one of the stupidest companies ever.

 

[Uncle Birchy]

They took away having anything extra with the pedal. But you still get dinged for "overspeed" if your foot is on the pedal at 65 instead of using cruise to be at 65.

It's devolving into one of the stupidest companies ever.

I couldn't work for a place like that.

Afew jobs back the lady called me about doing 73 down a hill and I informed her the posted speed is 75 mph.

But still didn't like me going that fast.

That's about the only call I ever got for speed.

 

[Electric Chicken]

I couldn't work for a place like that.

Afew jobs back the lady called me about doing 73 down a hill and I informed her the posted speed is 75 mph.

But still didn't like me going that fast.

That's about the only call I ever got for speed.

My Mack doesn't feel like much of anything going 75 as a bobtail but I don't know how it'll be with a trailer yet.

 

[Duck]

Schneider company line was always cruise control at 60 is safe, your foot on the pedal for 63 is unsafe.

All while the OTR trucks were cruising 65.

They would try to write me up. I refused to sign it.

Then after I left they turned up all the trucks to 65.

I remember @ironpony saying 65 is too fast. That was about ten years ago when he was in a Prime truck and still hypnotically programmed to go 50 mph on the interstate.

 

[Mike]

Schneider company line was always cruise control at 60 is safe, your foot on the pedal for 63 is unsafe.

All while the OTR trucks were cruising 65.

They would try to write me up. I refused to sign it.

Then after I left they turned up all the trucks to 65.

The OTR trucks were 60 when I was there. I think team was 65. They either turned up the solo drivers right before or right after I left.

 

[Electric Chicken]

The OTR trucks were 60 when I was there. I think team was 65. They either turned up the solo drivers right before or right after I left.

Not sure when it all went down for OTR but we'd get our doors blown off by fellow company drivers all while the department head kept telling us they wouldn't give us the same productivity "for safety."

Hard to stick with a company like that.

 

[Hammer166]

You know, it'd be nice if the bureaucracy got a dose of reality and realized the easiest (except politically) route to reducing highway deaths is to actually teach people to drive, and test them to make sure. Driver's licenses need to be much tougher to get!

 

[Sinister]

You know, it'd be nice if the bureaucracy got a dose of reality and realized the easiest (except politically) route to reducing highway deaths is to actually teach people to drive, and test them to make sure. Driver's licenses need to be much tougher to get!

And demand recertification for old people and non professionals. Even some professionals.

 

[Phantom Trucker]

All of the new trucks coming in at my carrier have been equipped with lane departure, collision mitigation and whatnot. From what I’ve seen sitting on the health and safety committee, the number of truck related incidents has remained unchanged.

In fact this technology has been somewhat faulty and quite the pain for the safety department because they’re now tasked with reviewing countless false events that have been recorded.

The trucks also read speed signs, but do so incorrectly. They’ll pick up a yellow speed sign on an exit while you’re passing it and cut your power and flash a speeding notice on the dash as if you were speeding. It’s ridiculous.

 

[Electric Chicken]

All of the new trucks coming in at my carrier have been equipped with lane departure, collision mitigation and whatnot. From what I’ve seen sitting on the health and safety committee, the number of truck related incidents has remained unchanged.

In fact this technology has been somewhat faulty and quite the pain for the safety department because they’re now tasked with reviewing countless false events that have been recorded.

The trucks also read speed signs, but do so incorrectly. They’ll pick up a yellow speed sign on an exit while you’re passing it and cut your power and flash a speeding notice on the dash as if you were speeding. It’s ridiculous.

That's the kind of shit the DDI cameras were supposed to do. It wouldn't be integrated enough to slam your brakes, especially on my 88, but it would be reading shit and ratting you out...falsely or not.

 

[Sinister]

All of the new trucks coming in at my carrier have been equipped with lane departure, collision mitigation and whatnot. From what I’ve seen sitting on the health and safety committee, the number of truck related incidents has remained unchanged.

In fact this technology has been somewhat faulty and quite the pain for the safety department because they’re now tasked with reviewing countless false events that have been recorded.

The trucks also read speed signs, but do so incorrectly. They’ll pick up a yellow speed sign on an exit while you’re passing it and cut your power and flash a speeding notice on the dash as if you were speeding. It’s ridiculous.

This is what makes me think my days at Walmart are limited. The Detroit 5.0 system is intolerable.

What also makes me scratch my head is that in 2016 when I hired on they were testing this and rejected it. Now all of a sudden it's "Gee sorry. Its standard now."

 

[Uncle Birchy]

This is what makes me think my days at Walmart are limited. The Detroit 5.0 system is intolerable.

What also makes me scratch my head is that in 2016 when I hired on they were testing this and rejected it. Now all of a sudden it's "Gee sorry. Its standard now."

Usually starts out as an idea but eventually it's fully adopted at some point in the future.

 

[Mike]

You know, it'd be nice if the bureaucracy got a dose of reality and realized the easiest (except politically) route to reducing highway deaths is to actually teach people to drive, and test them to make sure. Driver's licenses need to be much tougher to get!

mine of my kids almost hit someone, then almost had a wreck on the road test.

And came home with a drivers license.

They don’t expect a kid to know how to drive anymore. The actual license is handed over like permits were handed over when I was a kid.

 

[Electric Chicken]

mine of my kids almost hit someone, then almost had a wreck on the road test.

And came home with a drivers license.

They don’t expect a kid to know how to drive anymore. The actual license is handed over like permits were handed over when I was a kid.

Did your wife teach her?