Question about how he logs are supposed to operate.

corneileous

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Hey guys, there seems to be some confusion within my company about how Elogs are supposed to operate.

When the government started this whole electronic log crap, when you fall under the requirements of having to have an E log, doesn’t that electronic logbook have to be somehow tied to your truck so that you can’t cheat it when you actually drive? I was under the impression that it was but since my company which is normally an aggregate company that hauls rock, sand, gravel and dirt in daycabs and belly dumps/end dumps who usually falls under the short haul exemption, we’re now trying to have an over the road division that does flatbed. The very few flatbedders we have among a couple of us rock haulers started using this app called KeepTruckin. Now it’s called Motive Driver but anyways, when I use the app, I’m just a rock hauler so I can basically use this app just like an electronic version of my paper log because I’m staying within my 150 mile radius and not coming nowhere near going outside that radius for more than eight times per month but the other guys who are doing the flat bedding are doing this every day but my company is telling these drivers that they can still use this app the same way I’m using it but I don’t think that’s correct because like I said before, if you’re driving outside that radius every day for more than eight times in one month that you’re now considered by the government as an over the road truck driver, I don’t think them guys using that app the same way I’m using it is completely legal because they still have complete control on how they fill out their logbooks.

Am I correct or does the government care about whether or not you have full access to log what you said you drove rather than having to log what you actually drove?
 
If the truck is a pre2000 truck it doesn't need elog at all.

If it's post2000 it is supposed to communicate with the truck, but only the drive line is locked in and un-changeable.
 
To further explain, if an elog is used in a pre2000 truck it will have to be used manually because there is no comm to plug it into, including the drive line. So in that particular case it would be like paper.

If these trucks are pre2000 that might be what they were referring to.
 
To further explain, if an elog is used in a pre2000 truck it will have to be used manually because there is no comm to plug it into, including the drive line. So in that particular case it would be like paper.

If these trucks are pre2000 that might be what they were referring to.
No, they’re fully aware of the pre-2000 model-year truck clause we have that are pretty much Elog exempt but we do have a lot of other trucks both short haul and log haul that are newer than 2000. Even the daycab Pete that I drive is a 2004 model but since they increased the radius from 100 miles to 150 miles, its probably been at least a year and a half now that I’ve even had to log on a looseleaf.
 
No, they’re fully aware of the pre-2000 model-year truck clause we have that are pretty much Elog exempt but we do have a lot of other trucks both short haul and log haul that are newer than 2000. Even the daycab Pete that I drive is a 2004 model but since they increased the radius from 100 miles to 150 miles, its probably been at least a year and a half now that I’ve even had to log on a looseleaf.
Gotcha. They're probably just playing loose with the truth to get the guys to go for it instead of quitting. 😃
 
OMG!!! :eek: I've been using the exemption for years now on my 171 mile jaunt every night.

Screw it, I work 8 hours a day, who cares?
You can run as many miles as you want to within that 150 mile circle of home base as drawn with a protractor or compass on a map.

Or are you saying you work 21 miles outside the circle?

I don't know if they care about 21 miles or not.
 
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You can run as many miles as you want to within that 150 mile circle of home base as drawn with a protractor or compass on a map.

Or are you saying you work 21 miles outside the circle?

I don't know if they care about 21 miles or not.
I guess that would just be at the discretion of the cop who has you pulled over….
 
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