Why all the hate for PACCAR engines?
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Humble pie
What we have is a failure to communicate.
I knew they had their own transmission. I wasn’t aware they had their own axles though. It’s really not a new Idea. Mack has had their own axles and transmissions for what? Sixty years or better? Granted I always felt that hindered them from the OTR highway tractor market, but it’s not a new phenomenon.
Johndeere4020
It must be killing you to just have to sit quietly
So for example the Eaton axle joint venture is it totally different than any other offering from Eaton?
pushbroom
Goldmember
The trans is an eaton/paccar/cummins venture. Eaton sells it with their branding, paccar sells it under their name. Identical trans. It can be serviced with either eaton or paccar software which is cool.
I think the meritor/paccar axle is only sold under the paccar name? I would have to look into it to be certain however.
Johndeere4020
It must be killing you to just have to sit quietly
Sorry I got the Eaton Meritor thing backwards. I’m somewhat familiar with the Eaton Cummins PACCAR thing. Fedex is running some Volvo’s with the Volvo motor and transmission that work together. My understanding was that was Cummins/Eaton’s goal was to develop an integrated drive train to compete. I do know Fedex has went back to Cummins in their Volvo’s. You’d have to think that Eaton wants to be involved in this. Think about what their markets share of the heavy truck market was? It’s probably over 90%. They certainly want to try to preserve that.
You guys could be best friends then, lol
Yes, but you also have a large network of Detroit shops out there that will take care of the engine far better than most dealers.
A big factor for me when looking at new trucks is trying to avoid being pinned down to the dealer for engine work.
Johndeere4020
It must be killing you to just have to sit quietly
Cummins offers that too as well as Cat in some places
Cummins, yes. Cat has shops, but not an option in a new truck.
Johndeere4020
It must be killing you to just have to sit quietly
Yeah I should have clarified that, however there are still lots of Cats on the road
Rigjockey
In Gord we trust!
Yup! They were/are good engines. A little more expensive but they backed them up with warranty.
Uncle Birchy
Well-Known Member
Welp I happen to know from experience ya can't take a Peterbilt to a Kenworth shop..
And the Peterbilt Dealer don't want ya coming in a Kenworth
Never understood this I mean they both "PACCAR" productd
Johndeere4020
It must be killing you to just have to sit quietly
Depends on what you want done, most will work on them.
Shogun Warrior
Loaded like a freight train flyin like an airplane
I was at a "Caterpillar" shop one time. It was filled with various brand "trucks" and other "equipment". I couldn't believe that an "intake" valve on a 6nz wasn't brand "specific" to a Peterbilt or whatever it came in.
Too bad. I have a Mercedes engine in my 06 Freightliner with over 1.3 million miles and still going strong without a rebuild. No smoke anywhere.
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