Politics Civilian Rebellion vs. US Government

Mike

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This was a very in depth TikTok that we need to analyze. According to this guy, #Murica wins.

 

BlackBart

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Washington beat the Brits with surprise attacks and guerilla warfare. Its a tried and true tactic thats worked against superior enemies all over the world
 

Sinister

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Shays Rebellion.

Whiskey Tax Rebellion

Battle of Athens.

The Revolutionary War is a slightly different subject than American citizens fighting their own government.
 

Sinister

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Usually on thr conservatives it's triggered liberals abusing the report function and has nothing to do with communists. Like any platform leftists only tolerate their own voice.

Other than that banning seem to happen randomly and without reason on even some of the largest accounts and nobody ever knows why.

Your premise is still mind numbing stupid.
 

Electric Chicken

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Shays Rebellion.

Whiskey Tax Rebellion

Battle of Athens.

The Revolutionary War is a slightly different subject than American citizens fighting their own government.
The Revolutionary War was British citizens fighting their own government. Those British citizens who would become American citizens, some the descendants of whom are the American Citizens fighting their own government.

It's really not that different.
 

BlackBart

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The Revolutionary War was British citizens fighting their own government. Those British citizens who would become American citizens, some the descendants of whom are the American Citizens fighting their own government.

It's really not that different.
King George III was a control freak. Libtards and Democrats are control freaks. The enemy is still the same
 

Sinister

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The Revolutionary War was British citizens fighting their own government. Those British citizens who would become American citizens, some the descendants of whom are the American Citizens fighting their own government.

It's really not that different.
Someone who renounced thier citizenship would no longer be a citizen of that country. The even drafted a piece of parchment saying so.

The situation described in the video doesn't involve anyone doing that. A war to establish a new country is vastly different than citizens fighting their own government.
 
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Duck

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Your premise is still mind numbing stupid
Yes, recommending not to use an app that's owned and controlled by communist China is just dumb. 🙄

Mind numbingly dumb.

By your logic it's equally as stupid to tell people not to send money to the Nigerian prince who sent them an email.
 

Sinister

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Yes. A war involving citizens vs their government is totally different than a war involving citizens vs their government.

Like night and day different. Totally different.
If someone declares independence from their government and seeks self governance they are no longer fighting their own government.

I said that.

It's not hard.
 

Duck

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If someone declares independence from their government and seeks self governance they are no longer fighting their own government.

I said that.

It's not hard.
It makes no f*ing difference. The government the people declared independence from still considers itself to be the legitimate government. The people either win or they don't.

The British government, and Lincoln's north, both saw the other side as nothing but rebels.
 

Sinister

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It makes no f*ing difference. The government the people declared independence from still considers itself to be the legitimate government. The people either win or they don't.

The British government, and Lincoln's north, both saw the other side as nothing but rebels.
A Rebellion is a resistance to an established system.

A revolution seeks a new system.

That's the difference. That's why there are different words.
 

Electric Chicken

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A Rebellion is a resistance to an established system.

A revolution seeks a new system.

That's the difference. That's why there are different words.
The south was seeking full independence from the north and established their own government and they were called a rebellion.

We call the war of independence a revolution because it sounds more noble and pleasant than rebellion. But the Brits called the Americans rebels, not revolutionaries.
 

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Rebellions want to make changes in the establish system while revolutions want to overthrow it entirely.

Either way, until a new system is established they're still citizens of what exists, even if denounced.

If the United States hasn't actually won the Revolutionary War, the citizens would have still been subjects of the British King. The United States was initially a colony like India and would have remained so.
That is exactly what I said. It's why things like Shays Rebellion are different from the Revolutionary War.

It's also why it was not called the Rebellionary War.
 

Electric Chicken

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That is exactly what I said. It's why things like Shays Rebellion are different from the Revolutionary War.

It's also why it was not called the Rebellionary War.
Read my second post. Brits called the Americans rebels like the north called the south rebels. The southern rebels established their own government and everything too. But they got a shellacking and became part of the United States again.

They might have referred to themselves as revolutionaries too.
 

Sinister

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Look up Shays Rebellion.

If the "colonials" - which is what the crown actually called its distant subjects- had rioted and killed a few red coats to say, repeal the Stamp Act that would have been a Rebellion.

Secessionists are not revolutionaries. Thats why the Civil War was misnamed.

A Civil War is 2 or more factions fighting for control of a given area.
 

Electric Chicken

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Look up Shays Rebellion.

If the "colonials" - which is what the crown actually called its distant subjects- had rioted and killed a few red coats to say, repeal the Stamp Act that would have been a Rebellion.

Secessionists are not revolutionaries. Thats why the Civil War was misnamed.

A Civil War is 2 or more factions fighting for control of a given area.
They were called colonists when everything was copacetic. Britain had a lot of colonies at one point.

In the King's eyes, they became rebels/a rebellion when they got naughty. The Revolutionary War was still a rebellion.
 

Sinister

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I have provided textbook definitions of the two words.

You're claiming you know what the Kings language was.

One of us is making shit up.
 

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