Politics Ahmad Arbury Trial (actually McMicheal & Co.)

SomethingElse

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Nobody had the right to hunt this man down and kill him. Especially for the vicious crime of walking into a house that was being built. If this was justification, it would be legal to kill lots of people in new construction areas.

There is literally nothing to defend here.

No one hunted him down and killed him. McMichael didn't shoot until AFTER Arbery charged him. Once he got passed the front of the truck, (On the passenger side, McMichael on the drivers side) Arbery lunged at McMichael and tried to take his gun.
Remember, like Huber went for Rittenhouse's gun?

If the McMichael's wanted Arbery dead, they would've shot him long before that.

This trial is going to make it nearly impossible to defend yourself against blacks. Even if they're clearly in the wrong, like Arbery was. The way the media has ignored the fact that Arbery charged at McMichael,

Your neighbors house gets broken into, and you see it's a black person doing it. You better not say anything. If a black person breaks into your house and your neighbor see's him. He better not say anything. It's been getting to this point for a long time. And fewer and fewer people are going to risk helping each other out.
Like that gal on the subway getting raped, and everyone standing around watching it.
On another forum I got to, the blacks are seriously cramming it into the faces of every white poster there.
 

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No one hunted him down and killed him. McMichael didn't shoot until AFTER Arbery charged him. Once he got passed the front of the truck, (On the passenger side, McMichael on the drivers side) Arbery lunged at McMichael and tried to take his gun.
Remember, like Huber went for Rittenhouse's gun?

If the McMichael's wanted Arbery dead, they would've shot him long before that.

This trial is going to make it nearly impossible to defend yourself against blacks. Even if they're clearly in the wrong, like Arbery was. The way the media has ignored the fact that Arbery charged at McMichael,

Your neighbors house gets broken into, and you see it's a black person doing it. You better not say anything. If a black person breaks into your house and your neighbor see's him. He better not say anything. It's been getting to this point for a long time. And fewer and fewer people are going to risk helping each other out.
Like that gal on the subway getting raped, and everyone standing around watching it.
On another forum I got to, the blacks are seriously cramming it into the faces of every white poster there.
My understanding is they could have attempted the arrest if it was the same day.

The issue seemed to be whether they had the right to effect the arrest in the first place, not how it actually went down.
 

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If, and only if, police are unwilling or not allowed to respond & do their jobs. But yes.

What if some piece of shit attacked your wife or one of your kids, and the police refused to do anything about it, but you knew damn well for a fact who it was and where to find him? What then? Do you not have the right to protect your family? I would say you most certainly do.

What if some piece of shit set your house on fire while you were out on the road, and you have his face on your doorbell cam. The fire department saves your house, and damage is minimal, but police refuse to charge the piece of shit "because blah blah blah", and meanwhile the piece of shit is threatening to come back and torch it again? What then? Do you not have the right to protect yourself, your family and your home, because the politicians said "blah blah blah"?

What about the owners of the businesses that were destroyed in the riots because the same terrorists who orchestrated the riots are also running city hall and ordered the police to do nothing. Don't those business owners have the right to protect their property?

Maybe there is something to what @SomethingElse is saying.

He watched some video. We didn't. I'd like to see the same video he saw. What if it was indeed a case like that, where they knew he was a serial burglar but police didn't care, or weren't allowed to care because democrats ran the local government?

According to the video's that were played in the courtroom, Arbery had been there multiple times. (Wearing different clothes) IIRC, two of those times were at night. The contractors always picked up their tools, so the only thing around there to steal was wood. But that didn't keep him from coming back over and over. He'd already been there and checked out the place. Why keep coming back?

But as far as the video of the shooting goes. I stand by the fact that there was NO ONE in front of Arbery when he passed on the passenger side of the vehicle. The guy in the back of the truck didn't shoot him. The other guy didn't get out of his truck, run to the back and shoot Arbery as Arbery was getting close. ONLY when Arbery passed to the front of the truck, and turn sharp and fast towards McMichael, and either grabbed or reached for the gun, McMichael taking at least one step back, did he fire on Arbery.
At that point, it made Arbery the aggressor.
BTW, the prosecution didn't argue the defenses assertion that McMichael's gun was not pointing at Arbery. The defense stated that the gun, when Arbery made the sharp left, was pointing at the ground, between him and Arbery.

So McMichael is in front of the truck, gun pointed towards the ground. Arbery makes a sharp left and lunges for McMichael. IMO, The case was self defense, even though the McMichael's were assholes.

If Arbery was that innocent, when the neighbor saw him that day, instead of bolting, just walk over and have a conversation. Tell the neighbor, "I'm just curious to see how the house is going. Maybe getting some idea's about my house, one day." Or something. Don't act all suspicious like and take off running.
No one is that "entitled" to disregard the law, people's private property, privacy and those looking out for the safety of their community.
 

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My understanding is they could have attempted the arrest if it was the same day.

The issue seemed to be whether they had the right to effect the arrest in the first place, not how it actually went down.

If Arbery would not have charged at McMichael, and just waited for the cops. He wouldn't have gotten shot. He would've gotten a warning by the cop and the property owner.
But Arbery wasn't about to take orders from anyone. The body cam footage of him and the cop, was evidence of that. He was seriously screaming at the cop, for just trying to find out what he was doing, parked (off the road and parking spots) of the park. Sitting in his car, in the sun, wearing a thick jacket, in the summer. Seems like something a cop might wanna check out. Especially being on city property, around an area where kids come to play.

This dude was seriously mental. And smoking pot. (which is a bad combination) Just smoking pot, no big deal. Millions of people do it. But those with his mental issues, not good at all. And the judge wouldn't even allow that to be part of the evidence.
It's only my guess. But the judge was either ordered to force the trial in a certain direction. Or was paid off.
NO judge won't allow a toxicology report to be entered as evidence.
 

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If Arbery would not have charged at McMichael, and just waited for the cops. He wouldn't have gotten shot. He would've gotten a warning by the cop and the property owner.
But Arbery wasn't about to take orders from anyone. The body cam footage of him and the cop, was evidence of that. He was seriously screaming at the cop, for just trying to find out what he was doing, parked (off the road and parking spots) of the park. Sitting in his car, in the sun, wearing a thick jacket, in the summer. Seems like something a cop might wanna check out. Especially being on city property, around an area where kids come to play.

This dude was seriously mental. And smoking pot. (which is a bad combination) Just smoking pot, no big deal. Millions of people do it. But those with his mental issues, not good at all. And the judge wouldn't even allow that to be part of the evidence.
It's only my guess. But the judge was either ordered to force the trial in a certain direction. Or was paid off.
NO judge won't allow a toxicology report to be entered as evidence.
Again it boils down to the citizens' right to affect the arrest when they did. According to the law they did not.
 

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Again it boils down to the citizens' right to affect the arrest when they did. According to the law they did not.

I get it, they were assholes. But one of them was attacked by Arbery. And he defended himself. The McMichael's probably broke a few laws in following him, threatening him. But they were not breaking the law trying to stop someone who just broke the law. They were not breaking the law by being armed.

And what TF is up with three murder convictions and 1 shooter?

Oh yeah, this wasn't politically motivated.
 

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Your neighbors house gets broken into, and you see it's a black person doing it. You better not say anything. If a black person breaks into your house and your neighbor see's him. He better not say anything. It's been getting to this point for a long time. And fewer and fewer people are going to risk helping each other out.
Like that gal on the subway getting raped, and everyone standing around watching it.
On another forum I got to, the blacks are seriously cramming it into the faces of every white poster there.
Your narrative is very clear at this point. You are going to reach as far as you have to in order to justify the shooting of a black guy by white guys.

These guys had zero justification to hunt this guy down, and that is exactly what they did.

Had he gotten the weapon from these guys and shot and killed them, he would have been 100% justified in doing so, and you would be in here raising hell about how the black man killed the innocent white guys for no reason.

We all get the media narrative these days. Doesn’t mean we have to take the opposite stance and try to condemn every black man that is in the news.

You defending these white guys is no better than BLM out defending every black criminal that does something wrong.
 

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This part we can agree on. The democrats hand picked this case to publicize.
Yes they hand picked this case because it fits their agenda that white people are all racists.

The left never picks up on the fact that 11 of 12 white jurors found these white guys guilty, Yes white people convicting white people of the murder of a black man.
That does not fit their narrative of systematic racism.
 

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Your narrative is very clear at this point. You are going to reach as far as you have to in order to justify the shooting of a black guy by white guys.

These guys had zero justification to hunt this guy down, and that is exactly what they did.

Had he gotten the weapon from these guys and shot and killed them, he would have been 100% justified in doing so, and you would be in here raising hell about how the black man killed the innocent white guys for no reason.

We all get the media narrative these days. Doesn’t mean we have to take the opposite stance and try to condemn every black man that is in the news.

You defending these white guys is no better than BLM out defending every black criminal that does something wrong.

My "narrative" as you call it has nothing to do with race. You're injecting that because that's what you're told to do. My point was to catch a possible thief. Not just a black one.

Still, you don't go for someone's gun, who's not intending to shoot you. (IE Anthony Huber) I think Arbery knew they wasn't going to shoot him, and that's why he went for the gun. They had too many opportunities to do so.
He was getting tired of being followed. Knowing he wasn't going to get away with trespassing again. Probably knew the police were on their way.

Now the point the leftist news and race hustlers is to let possible thieves get away with anything. Like the way they riot, burned down peoples property, etc etc Like the girl getting raped on the subway, while several "on lookers" just watched and video'd it. Don't get involved. Let them have their way. You're only a citizen, you have no power or authority.
They're making vigilante's out to be the bad guy.

Bull F'n snot.
 

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Arbery's father said All Lives Matter (exact words) after the trial, to the chagrin of Benjamin Crump who shortly after pulled him from the podium. Al Sharpton looked on.

About 1:15 he starts to get in it and about 1:25 he says the words.

 

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Rosenbaum went for Kyle's gun, and got shot. Self Defense. Huber went for Kyle's gun, and got shot. Self defense. They were white.

Arbery (black)runs towards the McMichael's, goes for Travis's gun and get's shot. It's racist, it's murder.

Bull F'n snot.
 

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Rosenbaum went for Kyle's gun, and got shot. Self Defense. Huber went for Kyle's gun, and got shot. Self defense. They were white.

Arbery (black)runs towards the McMichael's, goes for Travis's gun and get's shot. It's racist, it's murder.

Bull F'n snot.
You are throwing race where race isn’t even a tiny argument.

Arbery would have been in his rights to take the gun if he could have and dropped all three of those dumbasses dead in their tracks.

Had the real police caught him, all they were going to do is give him a warning because the property owner didn’t want him on the property.
 

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