Trucking Regulations: Truckers allege Mexico-based operators are stealing jobs, profits

[Duck]

Those guys primarily pull contract freight - which is cheap as it gets.

Yeah they were

As they were before NAFTA, and as lots of natural born citizens are doing and have been doing for a long time. Drivers crossing borders didn’t create this.

Oh well that's a valid excuse for going full retard and changing the rules to make it even easier for them.

While we're at it, why don't we also get rid of all the Geiger counters and bomb detection equipment too?

 

[Electric Chicken]

Yeah, because drugs was definitely not a major problem with that method of shipping.

Everybody knows drugs are shipped intermodal.

 

[Duck]

everyone was a foreigner at some point even the mexicans that have been here a year hate the ones came last week

Not me. I was born here.

 

[Humble pie]

They're saying they wanna go into Mexico and fetch the loads themselves?

Have at 'em boys. I'm cool up here. I've yet to see a Mexico plated truck up here doing general business.

If anything it's those damned Canadians.

I’ve seen a few

 

[Mike]

I’ve seen a few

Can't say I see them daily, but I do see them pretty regularly. Many of them have dual registrations, Often Texas and Mexico.

 

[Humble pie]

Can't say I see them daily, but I do see them pretty regularly. Many of them have dual registrations, Often Texas and Mexico.

I had a beer in Hillsboro Texas a year or two back with a Mexican driver. He was a super nice guy. They get paid shit wages, but the equipment and their skill are no different than ours.

 

[Humble pie]

you want the Canandiens out too or are they ok cuz they look like you

I’d rather have the Mexicans than the Canadians. You show me one Canadian that can play a tuba.

 

[Mike]

I had a beer in Hillsboro Texas a year or two back with a Mexican driver. He was a super nice guy. They get paid shit wages, but the equipment and their skill are no different than ours.

Shit wages, but probably not too bad compared to other jobs where they live. The amount of money my sister in law makes picking fruit was shocking to me, especially considering she raises a family on those wages.

 

[Electric Chicken]

You know what, I lied. There was a regular at Rubbermaid. I forgot he was Mexican. I ran into him the first time he came to the plant and we used a translation app to talk. He didn't know which building was the right address. Same road and neither have the numbers as far as I'm aware.

Nice guy. Nicer truck than my Schneider POS.

 

[Mike]

I ran into him the first time he came to the plant and we used a translation app to talk

Seen conversations like that sitting with my wife watching 90 day fiance, LOL.

 

[Humble pie]

Shit wages, but probably not too bad compared to other jobs where they live. The amount of money my sister in law makes picking fruit was shocking to me, especially considering she raises a family on those wages.

But the shit wage is like the biggest cost to a trucking company. So if they are paying wages far below what a US driver makes there is some real justification to not wanting them up here. It’s an influx of cheap labor.

That said I’ve never seen any real money in trucking freight to and from the border.

 

[Humble pie]

Seen conversations like that sitting with my wife watching 90 day fiance, LOL.

I’m glad me and @AllabouttheBS aren’t the only ones who have to suffer through that show.

 

[Electric Chicken]

Seen conversations like that sitting with my wife watching 90 day fiance, LOL.

My Spanish wasn't quite adequate but I tried. He was all smiles even though it was an epic fail. Probably because after I left I realized I was pointing left and using the word for right.

 

[Mike]

But the shit wage is like the second biggest cost to a trucking company. So if they are paying wages far below what a US driver makes there is some real justification to not wanting them up here. It’s an influx of cheap labor.

That said I’ve never seen any real money in trucking freight to and from the border.

I just prefer the idea of making things more efficient. Makes no sense to me for them to bring something to the border, then have it go through a painful process to cross-dock it to an American carrier.

My whole problem with it, dating back to when OOIDA was fear-mongering about it years ago, is that if you are going to allow Canada to do come into the United States, and allow us to go into Canada, the same opportunities should exist at the southern border as well.

Either that or blow up NAFTA (now the USMCA) completely. And I have no problem with this happening either. It was just bullshit to create an agreement, then not honor it for years. Mexico carriers did all that was asked of them to get approved, jumped through all sorts of hoops to alleviate the fear-mongering.

 

[Mike]

I’m glad me and @AllabouttheBS aren’t the only ones who have to suffer through that show.

I'm usually home on Sunday, and that show will be on the television in the evening. With a house full of girls, I have no choice.

 

[Humble pie]

I just prefer the idea of making things more efficient. Makes no sense to me for them to bring something to the border, then have it go through a painful process to cross-dock it to an American carrier.

My whole problem with it, dating back to when OOIDA was fear-mongering about it years ago, is that if you are going to allow Canada to do come into the United States, and allow us to go into Canada, the same opportunities should exist at the southern border as well.

Either that or blow up NAFTA (now the USMCA) completely. And I have no problem with this happening either. It was just bullshit to create an agreement, then not honor it for years. Mexico carriers did all that was asked of them to get approved, jumped through all sorts of hoops to alleviate the fear-mongering.

I agree with the fear mongering and you should honor your agreements.

 

[Humble pie]

I'm usually home on Sunday, and that show will be on the television in the evening. With a house full of girls, I have no choice.

No need to explain it to me. I live in the estrogen ocean too.

 

[Rigjockey]

I just prefer the idea of making things more efficient. Makes no sense to me for them to bring something to the border, then have it go through a painful process to cross-dock it to an American carrier.

My whole problem with it, dating back to when OOIDA was fear-mongering about it years ago, is that if you are going to allow Canada to do come into the United States, and allow us to go into Canada, the same opportunities should exist at the southern border as well.

Either that or blow up NAFTA (now the USMCA) completely. And I have no problem with this happening either. It was just bullshit to create an agreement, then not honor it for years. Mexico carriers did all that was asked of them to get approved, jumped through all sorts of hoops to alleviate the fear-mongering.

YUP!

 

[Sinister]

What I learned at my time at ATS in 2009-2010 is that lease programs suck.

The thing I learned about Mexican freight was that it's very hot in Laredo. ATS has a terminal there. The other thing I learned was that the US company hauling the Mexican freight sometimes either owned outright, or had a big controlling interest in the Mexican trucking company.

JB own the Mexican company. JB owns the US side. That sort of thing. Same thing with Schneider.

It's like taking money out of your left pocket and putting it in your right.

If anything RICO statues and monopoly laws are stretched to their max.

Also, many times, a load you hauled into Laredo, and busted your ass to tie down and tarp went south of the border with a fraction of the securement and zero tarp.

So yes, safety concerns.

 

[Electric Chicken]

I just prefer the idea of making things more efficient. Makes no sense to me for them to bring something to the border, then have it go through a painful process to cross-dock it to an American carrier.

My whole problem with it, dating back to when OOIDA was fear-mongering about it years ago, is that if you are going to allow Canada to do come into the United States, and allow us to go into Canada, the same opportunities should exist at the southern border as well.

Either that or blow up NAFTA (now the USMCA) completely. And I have no problem with this happening either. It was just bullshit to create an agreement, then not honor it for years. Mexico carriers did all that was asked of them to get approved, jumped through all sorts of hoops to alleviate the fear-mongering.

No different from letting Vasily Express out of Illinois.