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EEOC forces Transport America to accommodate service animals

A companion dog is not a service dog.

An emotional support animal is not a service animal.

A service animal is a service animal.

There's huge difference between all of them.

An ESA and companion is a glorified pet someone paid good money to get a fancy letter. Not much more.

A service animal is the ONLY one that gets legal recognition.
 
I know you're talking about an employee losing control, but ask @mndriver about damage to a truck and having to fly several states away to retrieve the damaged truck after letting a driver go. That was a massive fiasco.
I must've missed that story. I saw pictures of the f*ed up truck but I thought he did it. :dunno:
 
Where does the article say anything about the man being a combat vet? Or be dealing with PTSD? It said anxiety and panic attacks. PTSD is a whole 'nother spectrum of issues, some more debilitating than others. You are able to deal with yours in a manner that keeps you stable and productive. Others are not. And yes, although I was never in military combat, I do have episodes of PTSD symptoms. If I smell burning diesel or try to drive an International, it rolls back. But like you, I have ways of dealing with it. Don't drive Internationals is one of them. I hate that because I'm one of those weirdos who loves Internationals.
1 the article didn’t say anything about combat related PTSD. I never claimed it to, this was where I branched out to have a discussion about service animals in a truck. So I was giving an example in the form of a question where most would take a different stance. But unfortunately you can’t make an exception for one and not all.

2 Anxiety and Panic attacks are a big part of PTSD. So that’s how I correlated my discussion question into the discussion.

3 I am not saying someone who wasn’t in a combat theater can’t have PTSD. Lots of people have trauma that is completely not combat related, again I was trying to give an example most people would make exception for.

4 **** these retards carrying around pocket poodles tea cup chihuahua, snakes hamsters and a slew of other random pets “because they need em to feel safe” all it is is a codependency, much like Linus’s blanket. But you can’t carry a blankie and suck your thumb forever.

Yes, people learn how to cope and move on, but according to @GAnthony you shouldn’t have your CDL because you’re a ticking time bomb at this point.
 
Also by your theory there should be no truck drivers. There isn’t a person in America who hasn’t dealt with depression at some point in their life.
but many (if any) were not clinically diagnosed as such.

and if they were, then thier CDL ought to be revoked. we do not need hopped up on meds drivers, that are in charge of an 80,000 pound destructive machine when they snap.

the whole idea of a DOT physical if i recall, was to have as healthy a person operating that big machine.

aside from say B/P meds, we are supposed to be in as good physical/mental health as possible.

once someone is on some sort of mind altering meds to control depression, or PTSD, or any other mental condition, it is time to not ever allow a CDL, or to revoke one that they already have. in time, they will snap, and as a result, i do believe that all are a ticking time bomb.

it's inevitable. not IF it will happen...but WHEN, and how many innocent people will be harmed, injured, or killed due to a mentally deficient person..???

can you say for a fact, that 100% of those on the mind altering meds, are not sipping some booze as well..??

no, i know i can't, but look at all the recent crashes where BOOZE was involved or drugs...

anyone want to venture how many of those morons were on some sort of mind altering meds..???

once a brain is screwed up, NO amount of meds will ever make them normal again.
 
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but they were not clinically diagnosed as such.

and if they were, then thier CDL ought to be revoked. we do not need hopped up on meds drivers, that are in charge of an 80,000 pound destructive machine when they snap.
Again you take the example of a misdiagnosed and improperly medicated example from the news what, 4 years ago maybe 3 and apply that to everyone? So what about those who are unmedicated in remission? Or what about those people who have other illnesses where medications can cause manic episodes. Even some common cold remedies list that as a side effect. So again by your theory there shouldn’t be a human truck driver. I see now you support full autonomy for the industry. While you will argue that I am wrong there. You make a very strong case as to why there shouldn’t be humans driving trucks.
 
Again you take the example of a misdiagnosed and improperly medicated example from the news what, 4 years ago maybe 3 and apply that to everyone? So what about those who are unmedicated in remission? Or what about those people who have other illnesses where medications can cause manic episodes. Even some common cold remedies list that as a side effect. So again by your theory there shouldn’t be a human truck driver. I see now you support full autonomy for the industry. While you will argue that I am wrong there. You make a very strong case as to why there shouldn’t be.
when a big rig wrecks, and THAT's in the news, doesn't everyone group all truckers into the unsafe speech.??

as each day comes closer to me retirement, i could care less if automated trucks are on the road or not, hell for all i care, they can start right now. it's all the rest of you, that have to live with all the news reports of the big rig crashes, and either the stoned, whack jobs, or drunks are out there, making YOUR JOB and life tougher...

i could care less, your problems when automated trucks take your job, i'll be collecting my pension, SS checks, and other investments pay outs...i will not suffer, due to the Feds, not revoking the CDL's of hopped up drivers..

common cold meds have warnings. you cannot control the moron that over does a dose of those meds.

but you CAN control a driver that is prescribed mind altering meds, by not even allowing him/her to even obtain not only a CDL. but a pilots license as well, maybe even up to include a boating license. we do not need those that are mentally deficient, to operate machinery, that can cause millions of dollars in damages, and injuries and deaths.
 
when a big rig wrecks, and THAT's in the news, doesn't everyone group all truckers into the unsafe speech.??

as each day comes closer to me retirement, i could care less if automated trucks are on the road or not, hell for all i care, they can start right now. it's all the rest of you, that have to live with all the news reports of the big rig crashes, and either the stoned, whack jobs, or drunks are out there, making YOUR JOB and life tougher...

i could care less, your problems when automated trucks take your job, i'll be collecting my pension, SS checks, and other investments pay outs...i will not suffer, due to the Feds, not revoking the CDL's of hopped up drivers..

common cold meds have warnings. you cannot control the moron that over does a dose of those meds.

but you CAN control a driver that is prescribed mind altering meds, by not even allowing him/her to even obtain not only a CDL. but a pilots license as well, maybe even up to include a boating license. we do not need those that are mentally deficient, to operate machinery, that can cause millions of dollars in damages, and injuries and deaths.
well, glad to see your truck hating northeast mentality. Enjoy retirement.
 
I think you should limit your objections to subjects you're actually educated about. Your posts in this thread show an astounding level of ignorance even by my standards.

And that is saying a lot, because stereotyping people based on my own willful ignorance is one of my favorite hobbies. :D
it's not being ignorant, it's giving my opinion on people with diminished mental capacities or other mental problems, being able to obtain a CDL and become unstable behind the wheel at any given time..like i said, a ticking time bomb.

when some one wants to become a police officer, he/she must have a physiological exam, if i recall... since they after all, carry a weapon. same can be said for truckers, except thier weapons are at the very least 80,000 pounds worth of destruction.

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i point out to the 4 tests.....general intelligence, judgement, prior drug use, and integrity...

all of which amazingly, pertain also to truckers...
 
it's not being ignorant, it's giving my opinion on people with diminished mental capacities or other mental problems, being able to obtain a CDL and become unstable behind the wheel at any given time..like i said, a ticking time bomb.

when some one wants to become a police officer, he/she must have a physiological exam, if i recall... since they after all, carry a weapon. same can be said for truckers, except thier weapons are at the very least 80,000 pounds worth of destruction.

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i point out to the 4 tests.....general intelligence, judgement, prior drug use, and integrity...

all of which amazingly, pertain also to truckers...
There’s a whole lot of police officers that have PTSD as well. They’re still serving in the police force.
 
There’s a whole lot of police officers that have PTSD as well. They’re still serving in the police force.
cops have better training and counseling services, over dumbass PTSD truckers or mentally deficient truckers, that are hopped up on drugs ever will have.
 
it's not being ignorant, it's (insert rambling ignorance here)
PTSD isn't gonna make someone go on a psychotic rampage with a truck. Can you even think of a single example of that happening? The only psychotic rampage I can recall, the guy was on PCP or meth or something.

Even if there were some incidents, it wouldn't justify depriving thousands of veterans of their ability to make a living with a CDL.

I do think the whole "emotional support animal" thing is a joke though.
 
PTSD isn't gonna make someone go on a psychotic rampage with a truck. Can you even think of a single example of that happening? The only psychotic rampage I can recall, the guy was on PCP or meth or something.

Even if there were some incidents, it wouldn't justify depriving thousands of veterans of their ability to make a living with a CDL.

I do think the whole "emotional support animal" thing is a joke though.

Medications
The brains of people with PTSD process "threats" differently, in part because the balance of chemicals called neurotransmitters is out of whack. They have an easily triggered "fight or flight" response, which is what makes you jumpy and on-edge. Constantly trying to shut that down could lead to feeling emotionally cold and removed.


Medications help you stop thinking about and reacting to what happened, including having nightmares and flashbacks. They can also help you have a more positive outlook on life and feel more "normal" again.

Several types of drugs affect the chemistry in your brain related to fear and anxiety. Doctors will usually start with medications that affect the neurotransmitters serotonin or norepinephrine (SSRIs and SNRIs), including:



you got some whack job on any of these meds, and he/she misses a dose or doesn't get the script refilled, all hell is gonna break loose...
 
you got some whack job on any of these meds, and he/she misses a dose or doesn't get the script refilled, all hell is gonna break loose...
That's all a bunch of "what if"s and theory.

See if you can find examples of PTSD causing truck drivers to go ape shit and run through a crowd of people or something with a truck. Otherwise you have no argument.
 
That's all a bunch of "what if"s and theory.

See if you can find examples of PTSD causing truck drivers to go ape **** and run through a crowd of people or something with a truck. Otherwise you have no argument.
in time, they will snap. watch your local news. i'll bet dollars to donuts that many had already snapped and it just isn't reported as such.
 
That's all a bunch of "what if"s and theory.

See if you can find examples of PTSD causing truck drivers to go ape **** and run through a crowd of people or something with a truck. Otherwise you have no argument.
here you go...a truck driver!!

 
here you go...a truck driver!!

I was parked across the street unloading when this went down. First this version of the article is in accurate. He was shot by a BNSF agent. 2 was driving a pickup. 3 the real news does not speculate that he had ptsd, which is what duck was asking for examples of.
 
here you go...a truck driver!!

Pickup truck.

You fail.

Keep looking. 🙄
 

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