Looking at Toyota Tundra...

[Ontario Outlaw]

For the price you pay and the mileage you get I cannot fathom a justification for a mid size pickup.

The heck is a mid size pickup? Like a half ton?

 

[Sinister]

The heck is a mid size pickup? Like a half ton?

Colorado, Canyon, Tacoma...that Nissan thing...

Mini pickup IMO would be a Chevy Luv or an Isuzu Pup or a Mitsubishi Mighty Max.

Some of those names show my age shut your face.

 

[Ontario Outlaw]

Colorado, Canyon, Tacoma...that Nissan thing...

Mini pickup IMO would be a Chevy Luv or an Isuzu Pup or a Mitsubishi Mighty Max.

Some of those names show my age shut your face.

Ok. No.

One tons are full size pickups. With an 8’ or 9’ box or flatbed

Everything else is a mini truck

 

[Duck]

Ok. No.

One tons are full size pickups. With an 8’ or 9’ box or flatbed

Everything else is a mini truck

Mini = Ranger, S-10, anything Japanese from the 80's, Colorado/Canyon

Mid = Dakota, Tacoma, anything people refer to as "full size" but has less than an 8 foot bed

Full size = you can lay a full sheet of plywood in the bed and close the tailgate.

 

[Electric Chicken]

I still don’t get the appeal of mini-trucks

I mean I guess they’re ok. But then people try to toe with them, and complain how poorly they toe

Or they complain how small the box is

Or complain how small the backseat is.

It’s a mini-truck. What did you expect.

I liked my S-10 for loading the bed. It was a nice low 2WD. But the driving position for short people is crap. The dash is too high and the pedals force you to practically eat the steering wheel.

I had to sell a perfectly good low mileage one because I couldn't get comfortable in it.

 

[Sinister]

Ok. No.

One tons are full size pickups. With an 8’ or 9’ box or flatbed

Everything else is a mini truck

Part of the problem with society is people defining things on their own terms and insisting that what they say is fact.

Besides, you can get 1 ton specs in the size of a half ton these days.

 

[Gdjjr]

I liked my S-10 for loading the bed. It was a nice low 2WD. But the driving position for short people is crap. The dash is too high and the pedals force you to practically eat the steering wheel.

I had to sell a perfectly good low mileage one because I couldn't get comfortable in it.

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I drove an 84 S10 Blazer for years. I loved it. Had 2 rangers loved them. Had 3 F150's loved them. Had 3 Chevy's the Chevy's were more comfortable to me from steering wheel location and angle to seat cushions.

 

[Gdjjr]

Part of the problem with society is people defining things on their own terms and insisting that what they say is fact.

Besides, you can get 1 ton specs in the size of a half ton these days.

Used to be, the pickups were rated 1/2 ton (1000lb payload) F100's, Chevy C10. When Ford went to F150 rating they were advertised as 5/8 ton payload. 3/4 ton remained the same.

I noticed, when traveling (in my other life) rental car sizes changed. What I was used to as full size was then called luxury and mid size were called full size- it was the manufacturers who changed, not society.

 

[Ontario Outlaw]

Part of the problem with society is people defining things on their own terms and insisting that what they say is fact.

Besides, you can get 1 ton specs in the size of a half ton these days.

Part of the problem with society these days is people watching TV commercials and getting the half baked impression a half ton is a real truck.
Axle ratings, tire ratings, spring ratings, stability etcetera are lacking on the little half tons. Hence, they’re a mini truck
I’ve seen half tons pulling gooseneck flatbeds and never laughed so hard

Anyone that thinks a half ton competes with a one ton is the byproduct of marrying cousins

 

[Gdjjr]

Part of the problem with society these days is people watching TV commercials and getting the half baked impression a half ton is a real truck.
Axle ratings, tire ratings, spring ratings, stability etcetera are lacking on the little half tons. Hence, they’re a mini truck
I’ve seen half tons pulling gooseneck flatbeds and never laughed so hard

Anyone that thinks a half ton competes with a one ton is the byproduct of marrying cousins

I don't think they sell half tons anymore. They sell "mid size" (which is almost as big as my 98 5/8 ton Chevy)- neither of my Rangers were rated at 1/2 ton, but both my F150's were 5/8 ton rated- my youngest son has an Expedition (i/2 ton?) which he used to pull a 32 ft camper- he had to white knuckle it but it worked- he now has a F350 Dually he hasn't used yet for anything- my oldest has an F350 Dually he used to tow a 5th wheel trailer but when the trailer had a blow out he decided that was more than he cared to deal with. He now has a tag 29ft and he's more comfortable- I used the oldest boy's Dually to pull a 32 foot race car trailer (14k loaded) and was quite comfortable, but it was a *tag* trailer. We also used the race car owners 3/4 ton Chevy to pull the race car trailer and it was *good* up to just less than 70mph. At that point the trailer started trying to get squirelly. I chalked that up to the truck not having dual rear tires/wheels, but it pulled and stopped fine and only squatted about 3/4 in.

 

[Hammer166]

Colorado, Canyon, Tacoma...that Nissan thing...

Mini pickup IMO would be a Chevy Luv or an Isuzu Pup or a Mitsubishi Mighty Max.

Some of those names show my age shut your face.

Definitely getting old! How could you forget the Courier?

 

[Sinister]

Anyone that thinks a half ton competes with a one ton is the byproduct of marrying cousins

Who said anything of the sort?

 

[Electric Chicken]

A modern half ton can do what an old one ton can do if not overly equipped with luxo goodies that kill the payload.

A modern half ton pales in comparison to its own one ton counterpart.

I don't know anyone saying anything to the contrary.

 

[Ontario Outlaw]

You can get 1 ton specs in the size of a half ton these days.

Who said anything of the sort?

You did.

 

[Electric Chicken]

You did.

Yah the one ton spec being one ton (2000lbs) of payload capacity. Half tons can actually do that now.

I don't care that you're too pansy assed to take me off ignore. It's always worth proving you wrong.

 

[Ontario Outlaw]

I don't think they sell half tons anymore. They sell "mid size" (which is almost as big as my 98 5/8 ton Chevy)- neither of my Rangers were rated at 1/2 ton, but both my F150's were 5/8 ton rated- my youngest son has an Expedition (i/2 ton?) which he used to pull a 32 ft camper- he had to white knuckle it but it worked- he now has a F350 Dually he hasn't used yet for anything- my oldest has an F350 Dually he used to tow a 5th wheel trailer but when the trailer had a blow out he decided that was more than he cared to deal with. He now has a tag 29ft and he's more comfortable- I used the oldest boy's Dually to pull a 32 foot race car trailer (14k loaded) and was quite comfortable, but it was a *tag* trailer. We also used the race car owners 3/4 ton Chevy to pull the race car trailer and it was *good* up to just less than 70mph. At that point the trailer started trying to get squirelly. I chalked that up to the truck not having dual rear tires/wheels, but it pulled and stopped fine and only squatted about 3/4 in.

My little one ton truck is a dollar truck all day long. With or without a trailer I’ve had her at triple digits.
Not loaded mind you, but an empty gooseneck flatbed.

I had a loser in a Dodge Ram 1500 shortbox regular cab Hemi mini-truck wanting to play games when I was empty one time. He legit took front door from me but it was closer than he thought it would be, I was close to 14,000 pounds with the trailer on even empty. I’m guessing he would be 3500 pounds.

Had a Mustang wanted to play one night, too. North out of Wilmington NC. No trailer this time. He took it up to 95 mph then backed out of it


It’s awesome having a one ton pickup that can pull that hard and run triple digits

 

[Sinister]

My little one ton truck is a dollar truck all day long. With or without a trailer I’ve had her at triple digits.
Not loaded mind you, but an empty gooseneck flatbed.

I had a loser in a Dodge Ram 1500 shortbox regular cab Hemi mini-truck wanting to play games when I was empty one time. He legit took front door from me but it was closer than he thought it would be, I was close to 14,000 pounds with the trailer on even empty. I’m guessing he would be 3500 pounds.

Had a Mustang wanted to play one night, too. North out of Wilmington NC. No trailer this time. He took it up to 95 mph then backed out of it


It’s awesome having a one ton pickup that can pull that hard and run triple digits

Oh so you’re actually a hot shot driver?

And no it was you who made the entrance to the thread with bullshit machismo once again.

 

[Ontario Outlaw]

Oh so you’re actually a hot shot driver?

And no it was you who made the entrance to the thread with bullshit machismo once again.

No, I use my truck to make money. It’s a tool

I have family that has an F150, it’s good as a daily driver for them. They don’t need a work truck, nor do they expect to have a half ton do any work. It’s basically a four wheel drive car for them, it’s good in the winter up here

Half tons are useless as work trucks

 

[Ontario Outlaw]

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I’d like to see a half ton mini truck do that

 

[r3gulator3]

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I’d like to see a half ton mini truck do that

Not to rain on your parade here bud, but most half tons have an advertised 13k tow capacity.