Ninth Circuit hears challenge to DOT's cross-border trucking program

[Maria]

A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit heard oral arguments March 15 in a challenge that seeks to shut down the government’s cross-border trucking program.

Despite meager participation in its cross-border pilot program, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration opened up long-haul trucking in the states to motor carriers from Mexico starting in January 2015. Two separate lawsuits were filed seeking to shut down the program.

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[Rigjockey]

Pretty sure the mexicans don't care! Given the participation of Mexican trucks that actually want to cross the border.

 

[Injun]

Pretty sure the mexicans don't care! Given the participation of Mexican trucks that actually want to cross the border.

They don't, but their government does. Last time the program was shut down, they tariffed everything.

 

[Rigjockey]

They don't, but their government does. Last time the program was shut down, they tariffed everything.

Get ready for round two when Trump tariff everything. There will be retaliation tariffs.

 

[gearjammer]

I still figure they need us a lot more than we need them and when they figure that out they will want to negoiate a new deal one of the reasons we elected a deal maker.

 

[Rigjockey]

I still figure they need us a lot more than we need them and when they figure that out they will want to negoiate a new deal one of the reasons we elected a deal maker.

Yes for the most part. But much of the food supply during the winter months comes from Mexico.
Food supply is a pretty high face card.

 

[gearjammer]

they need our gas for one thing, oil products and electricity is also exported south of the border, just to name a few things I am sure many more things go south that they need.

 

[Rigjockey]

they need our gas for one thing, oil products and electricity is also exported south of the border, just to name a few things I am sure many more things go south that they need.

Really? Mexico has a yuge amount of oil. What they need is someone to come and get it out of the ground. Using Mexican workers of course!
American companies could be the ones to get that oil out, if they are willing to play nice

 

[Duck]

Get ready for round two when Trump tariff everything. There will be retaliation tariffs.

I still figure they need us a lot more than we need them and when they figure that out they will want to negoiate a new deal one of the reasons we elected a deal maker.

 

[gearjammer]

it's smart Countries like China that have bought up at lot of our farmland and orchards to feed their own people that we have to worry about, that is also a lot of the reasons are seeing produce and even hay going to unaffordable prices just one example is pecans, went to the store and they wanted 9 bucks for 10 ounces they are starting to be hard to find A. because they are being shipped overseas and B what idiot is going to pay that much for a handful of nuts,

 

[gearjammer]

Really? Mexico has a yuge amount of oil. What they need is someone to come and get it out of the ground. Using Mexican workers of course!
American companies could be the ones to get that oil out, if they are willing to play nice

they may have oil be we have the expertise to find it and get to it, even the arabs need our expertise and when it comes to fracking we are the only ones that know how to do it profitably

 

[Rigjockey]

it's smart Countries like China that have bought up at lot of our farmland and orchards to feed their own people that we have to worry about, that is also a lot of the reasons are seeing produce and even hay going to unaffordable prices just one example is pecans, went to the store and they wanted 9 bucks for 10 ounces they are starting to be hard to find A. because they are being shipped overseas and B what idiot is going to pay that much for a handful of nuts,

Very true! I have heard that about farmland both here and in the U.S. and I have heard about the pecans, I am not making light because this is a yuge problem.
IMO I don't think any foreigner should be able to own land in a foreign country and yes that goes for Canadian snow birds that own homes in Florida

 

[Duck]

it's smart Countries like China that have bought up at lot of our farmland and orchards to feed their own people that we have to worry about, that is also a lot of the reasons are seeing produce and even hay going to unaffordable prices just one example is pecans, went to the store and they wanted 9 bucks for 10 ounces they are starting to be hard to find A. because they are being shipped overseas and B what idiot is going to pay that much for a handful of nuts,

What's to be afraid of? It's not sovereign Chinese soil like an embassy. If food prices get too high or supply gets tight we can be like "no F your exports, that stuff's getting sold to US grocers".

If we have a halfway decent president at the time, of course.

Kinda like how steel and aluminum supplies were required to be sold only to the military contractors during WW2 for building ships, tanks, aircraft, etc.

 

[Rigjockey]

they may have oil be we have the expertise to find it and get to it, even the arabs need our expertise and when it comes to fracking we are the only ones that know how to do it profitably

We also have the know how to get oil out of the ground, PM Kardashian is sniffing around Mexico for a co-operation on getting that oil out.

 

[Rigjockey]

I tell ya whhat, I am going to tell, ya whhat. If they start getting oil out of the ground in Mexico and i don't care who does it. But, If you start getting oil out of the ground in Mexico. There is going to be yuge drop in Illegals crossing into the U.S. for jobs.

 

[Injun]

There is going to be yuge drop in Illegals crossing into the U.S. for jobs.

Yeh, it'll be illegal Americans crossing into Mexico.

I wonder how fast the wall would go up then..

 

[gearjammer]

Yeh, it'll be illegal Americans crossing into Mexico.

I wonder how fast the wall would go up then..

never gonna find out few Americans are stupid enough to step across that line today

 

[Rigjockey]

Yeh, it'll be illegal Americans crossing into Mexico.

I wonder how fast the wall would go up then..

 

[Duck]

I tell ya whhat, I am going to tell, ya whhat. If they start getting oil out of the ground in Mexico and i don't care who does it. But, If you start getting oil out of the ground in Mexico. There is going to be yuge drop in Illegals crossing into the U.S. for jobs.

Yeppers.

But only if they're somehow forced to pay a liveable wage. The Mexican equivalent of middle class. Whatever that amounts to.

It won't help them if the oil companies exploit them for cheap labor like they do here.

 

[Rigjockey]

Yeppers.

But only if they're somehow forced to pay a liveable wage. The Mexican equivalent of middle class. Whatever that amounts to.

It won't help them if the oil companies exploit them for cheap labor like they do here.

Well, Yeah. Look at the workers at the VW plant down there. They are paid peanuts compared to American workers but they seem content and doing well.